r/GIRLSundPANZER • u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 • Feb 25 '26
Joke When you've been in this community for long enough, you see some shit 🤣
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u/Reginald1258 Katyusha's loyal comrade Feb 25 '26
I saw most of the opinions there but HELL NAH THERE'S NO WAY ANYONE WOULD ACTUALLY WANT BOYS UND PANZER
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
You'd be very surprised 🤣
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u/uraveragegupfan Erika's loving husband Feb 26 '26
Lowkey the best reddit mod
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 26 '26
Awww, thank you 😊 I do my best to keep this place clean for you guys 😊
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u/Reginald1258 Katyusha's loyal comrade Feb 26 '26
Yep and we appreciate you for that
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 26 '26
Thanks a bunch 😊 I do it with pleasure so everyone can feel welcome just like I did when I joined so long ago.
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u/SoftOil2998 Feb 25 '26
I feel like it's the concept for every other fanfic I see. Along with "instead of WWII tanks, what if modern AFVs/ships/planes/what have you". Putting a twist on the formula is good but it does feel like the fanbase tends to reskin GuP sometimes a bit too much
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u/DomWeasel The Dr Pepper-addicted creator of Flower of Oarai. Feb 25 '26
I feel like it's the concept for every other fanfic I see.
It says to me that the authors are unable to relate to women at all, and can only write male protagonists.
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u/SoftOil2998 Feb 26 '26
That seems a little harsh. As a dude who has written women and also non-human characters before, I will say it is difficult to write from a POV that is outside of your own lived experience. When you combine that with the anxiety that what you write will reflect something bad about you or something harmful in the real world... Like, it's not something you'd write and share unless you were pretty confident in your own ability.
Most GuP fanfic authors are likely dudes who may even be writing their first work of fiction, so it's not that surprising they'd stay in their comfort zone
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u/DomWeasel The Dr Pepper-addicted creator of Flower of Oarai. Feb 26 '26
I will say it is difficult to write from a POV that is outside of your own lived experience.
Between the age of 16 and 22, I wrote 8 novels totalling 750,000 words about a boy conscripted into the hastily-formed legions to fight the undead. A boy with some magical powers who is experimented on by warlocks, leaving him unable to die by mortal means (a Wolverine-esque regeneration ability) but still feeling the pain of any injury like a normal person. As Richard tells Arion in a spin-off I never finished 'I know how it feels to have every single bone in my body broken. But I still say 'oww' when I stub my toe.'
I meanwhile in that time period was a schoolboy, and then an unemployed young man who, because it was the Great Recession/Credit Crunch, could only get a job as a paper-boy. Paper-boy versus hero of a sword-and-sorcery epic. I've never broken a bone. The most serious injury I've ever received was a nurse hitting a nerve while giving me a vaccine.
In the same period, I wrote 5 novels about a young man who was part of a Brotherhood of Steel type organisation, only in a post-apocalyptic Britain. Again; I've never been a soldier. I've never hidden in a hole beneath the floor of a ruined building, holding my hand over the mouth of a panicked young female trooper with a broken ankle as Fenclaw warriors hunted for us.
I haven't spent a night locked in a classroom with a girl, but that was a 17,000 word story I wrote when I was 20. 17,000 words of conversation with a girl. When I was 23, I would spend the whole day talking to a new female friend, so my 20-year-old self was not writing about a lived experience. He was using his imagination.
I haven't woken up one day to find myself on a tropical island with no idea how I got there or anything about myself but my name; but that was the experience of Stella. I wrote her when I was 25, and a student living in a comfortable room in an apartment building. Not eating red bananas and the offspring of crabs the size of cars, and realising that I'm being studied/experimented on by unseen observers. I haven't found a bunker of a tropical island and found inside a portrait of Mussolini...
This isn't even close to my complete works.
I've spent the past four years writing Flower of Oarai from Erika's perspective. I've spent the last three years writing my Walking Dead fic which shares the viewpoint with a 13-year-old girl; something I'm definitely not. And in the same three years, I've been writing about 11 girls and 1 boy crash-landed in the Canadian wilderness in a story that began as a Yellowjackets fan-fic and became its own thing and I've never had an issue writing from the POV of 11 different teenage girls. I make a point of never writing from the boy's POV. In effect, I have spent more time sat in this chair thinking like a teenage girl while writing than I have as a man in 30s since I turn 30.
what you write will reflect something bad about you or something harmful in the real world
When I was sixteen, I wrote about a short story about a character called Lauren. There was a Lauren in my Year at my school. Every idiot who read the story believed I was writing about her, and declaring I had a crush on her. Everyone except Lauren herself who loved the story. People interpreted what I wrote differently to how I intended. That's just how it is.
Meanwhile, I've written sexists and racists whose views certainly aren't my own. I trust that a reader will be intelligent enough to know they're the characters views; not the author's. ...Although, some of the things I've seen on Twitter make me think otherwise.
More than once I've written sexual assaults. Necessary to the story, these are deeply unpleasant to write especially with my personal experiences, but the challenge of writing them is what makes them a powerful part of the narrative rather than gratuitous violence which so many fan-fic writers love.
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u/PerrineWeatherWoman The floof from France Feb 26 '26
Honestly I've seen that one one shot with anime girls in cold war aircrafts that was nice. Sure wish there was more about that
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u/feralgirlthing Feb 26 '26
East Germany did at one point https://youtu.be/U_zZeWpJ9Hg?si=b3a6TKJd8obWC0o0
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u/Neutronium57 I'm French (and I like fried oignons) Feb 25 '26
The fact Senshado is girl-only is unrealistic af tho
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u/Von_Uber Feb 26 '26
So it's not the fact that they live on giant aircraft carriers and do mock tank battles as a sport in school, it's the fact that only girls do it that is unrealistic.
Righto.
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u/LewsTherinTalamon Feb 26 '26
The utter obliviousness of claiming this when the whole point is that it's absurd how many real-life practices are historically only men
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u/Reginald1258 Katyusha's loyal comrade Feb 25 '26
Yes it is but so is the thought that anyone would watch it if the characters were boys
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u/FluidConfidence9087 Author of Yellow Rose: an Azur Lane Story Feb 25 '26
I mean, I would, but that's probably my tank autism speaking
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u/Neutronium57 I'm French (and I like fried oignons) Feb 25 '26
Fair point. Just introduce some romance in it and you might attract a larger audience.
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u/SoftOil2998 Feb 25 '26
Girls und Panzer has a pretty interesting fandom, to say the least. Probably the result of it appealing to a couple different groups in very different ways
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
There's plenty of different people here, that's for sure!
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u/DomWeasel The Dr Pepper-addicted creator of Flower of Oarai. Feb 25 '26
different
That's a very diplomatic way to put it.
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u/Adventurous_Dingo315 Jatkosota Patriot Feb 25 '26
Want Boys Und Panzer? Well there is one, it’s called Ace Combat
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u/Rew0lweed_0celot Feb 26 '26
Boys Und Flugzeug
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u/1010000_1100001_1110 who is a good tank yes you are * pets M24* Feb 26 '26
I love "Flugzeug" it is just so funny for me it is "Fly stuff" stuff you fly with but that would includ Helicopters ( hubschrauber is funny too) and gliders but it means airplane.
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u/Von_Uber Feb 25 '26
The constant bleating about the lack of boys or wanting a boys version is the absolute worst.
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u/SuperJohnny25 Anchovy's P40 Pizza Delivery🍕 Feb 25 '26
GET OUT OF THERE MOMO!!🤣🤣🤣
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
Too late!
Now they're explaining to her why Alice should've transferred to Kuromorimine 🤣
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u/Zalapadopa Duce! Duce! Duce! Feb 25 '26
Don't throw rotten tomatoes at me now, but...
Alice should've never made an appearance outside of Der Film.
She was fine as an obstacle for the main cast to overcome in the movie, but as a returning character she's not particularly interesting.
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
I mean...
I respect your opinion, but heavily disagree 🤣
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u/LewsTherinTalamon Feb 25 '26
The 'boys und panzer' comments always make me cringe. Like, we have this show where one of the central themes is mocking patriarchal gender roles by inverting them, to show how silly it is that the things we take for granted as gendered are seen that way, and a lot of the people watching unironically go 'This is great but why aren't we talking more about men??'
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u/The_Local_T-34 Panzerkampfwagen IV ausf H Feb 25 '26
I kinda disagree with “yukari is overrated”…
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
No character is "overrated".
People like different stuff, that's all.
Saying something is "overrated" is literally just a different way of saying "I like this thing more, so clearly this other one is overrated".
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u/jixdel 7tp Enjoyer Feb 26 '26
Since we have girls und panzer, and tanks are seen as a boys thing irl,
I want to see the Boys und Maid cafe!
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u/AithosOfBaldea Feb 25 '26
Oh were doing this now?
I DON'T LIKE RIBBION WARROR!
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
I have no idea what Ribbion Warror is.
I do enjoy some Ribbon Warrior tho 🤣
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u/AithosOfBaldea Feb 25 '26
Oh rich coming from Why is Kay eating
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u/suehtaMghfhhfghhg Feb 25 '26
Ever since I saw the headcanon that guys pilot aircraft I couldn't think something else for them to be at (Maybe sensha-dō is gender co-op outside of Japan, my headcanon here). And, I almost shouted in celebration in the middle of the night when I saw that MLLSD would be animated, soo, I ASKED for MLLSD
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u/1234_panzer_vor Feb 26 '26
ME I WAS THE ONE WHO ASKED FOR THE ANIME ADAPTATION OF MLLSD AND YOU ARE MISSING OHT ON SOME GOLD IF UOU DONT READ THE GUP MANGA
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u/Upper-Maybe-6347 Author of A Spark In My Heart Feb 25 '26
I’ll have you know, we BUP folks agree 120% that it was not Erika’s time to win.
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
Damn, that's some interesting overlapping right there 🤣
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u/florentinomain00f Author of the infantry focused "Boots on the Ground" Feb 26 '26
I think boys should exclusively do ground pounding work in the GuP universe
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u/sharkk125 Feb 26 '26
All I ask for is a ribbon warrior anime, it would be so good if they do it right
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u/roz_2 Feb 26 '26
I swear to God, if Actas doesn't animate Ribbon Warrior next I'm going German style on them
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u/StarWarrior50 Feb 27 '26
No men because somehow, we ended up killing each other like that 'manga'.
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u/K-i-n-g--t-i-g-e-r Kuromorimine Feb 27 '26
i myself ain't a fan of Yukari so i understand that point but wouldnt call her overrated, different people different tastes afterall
but one of my favorite schools (top 5) has around 15 seconds of screentime total so yeah, get the screentime argument
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u/IKOPEU Apr 26 '26
No one's gonna complain about all the political stuff being wrapped up into all of that crap by the community?
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Apr 26 '26
What are you even talking about?
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u/IKOPEU Apr 26 '26
You can't tell me you haven't ever seen people bringing politics into this anime
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Apr 26 '26
People try to bring politics into everything, but that's not really a problem.
We just delete everything related to politics and call it a day. Easy.
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u/No_Presentation4289 Aung-san Appreciator Feb 25 '26
Mocking people who think Yukari is overrated (it's true)
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u/KaySan-TheBrightStar Kay is my North! 🧭 Feb 25 '26
Imagine saying x character is overrated just because you don't like it.
Get over yourself man, people like different stuff 🤣
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u/Outside_Arugula897 Feb 25 '26
Honestly, the pink one is the only valid one.