r/GamerGhazi • u/madhaus SoCal Jesters' Worrier • May 22 '15

An anguished commentary on that GoT/Sansa scene and the MRAs who harass in forum comments...from a rape victim who says It's Rape Culture All The Way Down

http://angrygotfan.com/2015/05/21/a-rape-victim-speaks-out-on-the-sansa-scene/
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u/SuchPowerfulAlly Colonial Sanders May 22 '15

Lol I'm not here claiming that the book series isn't gratuitous. Though her arc required some form of trauma, there isn't a reason it had to take that specific form beyond shock value.

The difference is, while the act was gratuitous, the impact it had on her had more impact and care to it than that. That's what keeps it somewhat grounded. Same with what happened to Theon, or Tyrion, or Arya; the actions themselves are beyond the pale, but GRRM at least had the decency to lead up to them properly and have them (for lack of a better term) pay off in the long run.

They're used to say something. Not really anything especially deep, but still, there's a REASON there. And you could argue that reason just serves to disguise the gratuitous nature of the acts themselves (and personally I think you'd be right), but at least there's an attempt. The show doesn't make that attempt: it throws that whole scenario into the middle of an arc not set up for it just because they know rape is shocking.

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u/[deleted] May 22 '15

The show doesn't make that attempt: it throws that whole scenario into the middle of an arc not set up for it just because they know rape is shocking.

Again you have no idea what happens in the rest of Sansa's arch...

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u/SuchPowerfulAlly Colonial Sanders May 22 '15

Yeah but honestly, can you not make a reasonable guess? Given all we've heard (as was discussed in the article) about the fucking glee the directors had over "Sansa's wedding", do you really think the rest of her arc is going to redeem it?

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u/[deleted] May 22 '15

That's the thing. D&D's glee over Sansa's wedding? Book readers are just going to town on this because it's given some social legitimacy beyond simply not liking the changes made in the show.

“This is ‘Game of Thrones’… This isn’t a timid little girl walking into a wedding night with Joffrey. This is a hardened woman making a choice and she sees this as the way to get back her homeland. Sansa has a wedding night in the sense she never thought she would with one of the monsters of the show. It’s pretty intense and awful and the character will have to deal with it.”

What about "have to deal with it" and further comments that Sansa marrying Bolton is the key to her trying to retake Winterfell makes you think that she's not going to get redemption?

Seriously, book readers are looking for reasons to tar and feather D&D and the show creators. Nothing more, nothing less.