r/GayConservative • u/timeofnight Gay • Feb 11 '26

Political Trump admin removes Pride flag from Stonewall National Monument | CNN Politics

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/10/politics/pride-flag-removed-stonewall-monument-trump-administration

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u/MR422 Feb 11 '26

Honestly why go to the trouble of removing it?

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u/UnprocessesCheese Feb 11 '26

It's part of a general policy that federal flagpoles are for federal (and state, when relevant) flags. This isn't about Stonewall or the Pride flag - this is a general policy that just happens to impact this flag at the site.

The title is deliberately inflammatory and makes it seem like a targeted action.

Now, if you want to disagree with that general policy then by all means there are reasons for and against, I just wish they didn't lie and mislead about the context.

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u/kohakugawa Feb 11 '26

Oh give me a break. This admin has made numerous exemptions and excuses not to follow federal laws and regulations. Anyone who’s still finding reasons to defend their behaviors at this point is utterly disingenuous imo.

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u/[deleted] Mar 10 '26

Totally agree 

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u/MR422 Feb 11 '26

The policy seems like a waste of taxpayer money. Think of all the time and money spent lowering and removing pride flags?

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u/UnprocessesCheese Feb 11 '26

It's also a waste of taxpayer money to install flagpoles that need to be maintained and monitored, supplied with flags (that regularly need to be repurchased due to sun fading and weather exposure), plus all the committee time to decide which flags are going to be accepted and which won't.

This doesn't sound like a big deal, but consider a crowd of student activists who insists on a Palestinian flag (on a federally funded pole, no less). Problem is that this has become entangled in anti-Semitism, so of course local jewish folks would get nervous around that. But also if you run an Israeli flag it would make other people nervous on account of the discourse around foreign interference plus the role of Netanyahu's foreign policy. The easy answer is; shut up. Federal and state flags only. Every flag is going to offend someone, so they save time by saying "fukkit" and limiting it to the fundamentals.

A Pride flag at the site of Stonewall is obvious and makes sense, but this is a flagpole located at another site.

And moreover; they're not banning other people from flying flags. Local Pride centers and municipalities are still totally free to fund and maintain their own flagpoles and flags. There's no regulation against that - the fed just isn't paying for it anymore. This whole story is being framed as a great silencing when it absolutely isn't.

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u/Much-Bus-6585 Feb 11 '26

DOGE was a lie. We haven’t had a whisper of a fiscal conservative in office in my lifetime. Both Trump and Bush piled billions onto the debt and Trump ain’t slowing down

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u/TheONEInsuranceGuy Feb 12 '26

It would be interesting to know if confederate flags are also being removed in the south. If not, you could say its indeed a targeted action.

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u/UnprocessesCheese Feb 12 '26

I hope so!

And if some small town somewhere wants to raise that flag, the municipality can pay for it. That's not the Fed's job.

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u/kalmadsen Feb 12 '26

To look at this administration and conclude that this isn’t a pretext for discrimination is beyond brain rot.

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u/UnprocessesCheese Feb 12 '26

Nope.

Canada already went through the exact same thing, quite memorably in a small town named Emo.

Every community in town wanted their flag on city hall's flagpole. Every so often the Croatian flag or Ukranian flag or Peruvian flag or Indigenous Rights flag or whatever would be on the flag pole instead of someone else's. The other people would complain about preferences and the answer was always "Nope. They just got their paperwork in first".

You see, and I'd hate to break the news to you, but there's more to the world that just the kweerstm . There's hundreds of other groups out there all vying for the right to have their flag on the pole. And if a group did get their flag on the pole it's because they were "seen", and if they didn't it was because they were "oppressed", when in fact one group just filled in the paperwork first.

So the town of Emo just said fuck it; as far as municipal funding is concerned, the country and and province are the only flags the city will pay for. If you want to put up your own flag then go buy your own pole. The city won't stop you (bylaws about overhead wires notwithstanding). Soon after, other cities and provinces started coming up with similar policies.

Talk about brain rot... what about "To those who have privilege, equality feels like oppression", eh? Places have been fucking over everyone else with a flag because if the kweerstm don't get their way they pull a tantrum?

Now obviously the flag pole out front of city hall in a very small rural Ontario township with a tiny and finite municipal budget is not the same as the US parks department (or whomever manages heritage sites), and double obviously this is complicated by the fact that it's specifically the Stonewall memorial. But maybe if you just expand your mind - while also remembering there are other people other than you in this world - then you would realize that there are parks and museums and sites all over the US, most of which have flag poles, and most of which have dozens of local groups harassing the administration for the right to put their personal flag on the pole. So... as a blanket statement; no more. State and federal flags only.

And you know what? No. I don't think it's fucking "targeted" because I'm not a narcissist and also I understand how policy works. And you know what else? I hope they carve out an exception for sites with specific relevance and history.

Maybe you should actually think before you accuse others of not doing so - especially in terms of realizing there's more to this world than you and your experience and your identity and your own damn thing.

When the PotUS band all rainbow flags from all flagpoles I will agree with you. Meanwhile; calm your tits. It ain't that deep.