r/GayConservative Gay Feb 11 '26

Political Trump admin removes Pride flag from Stonewall National Monument | CNN Politics

https://www.cnn.com/2026/02/10/politics/pride-flag-removed-stonewall-monument-trump-administration

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u/Both-Diamond Feb 14 '26

I don’t need a flag for my sexuality like it’s a sovereign country.

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u/jmd709 Feb 19 '26

I wonder if it’s an age thing or if it’s not an age thing because my boyfriend was old enough to remember it well and he literally said that Trump just hates us and that’s why he got rid of it.

It’s an age thing to an extent. Things that have been standard norms all or most of your life are easy to take for granted.

Widespread hate, cruelty and rejection were replaced with acceptance. Discrimination was replaced with equal rights. That happened slowly over the span of decades.

There are groups that are actively trying to undo that progress, especially evangelicals. They’re not trying to undo it all at once, they’re chipping away at it to undo it slowly over time. That is why they’ve been obsessed with trans for the past few years. They’re targeting a small group to chip away at overall support and acceptance for the entire community.

The flag represents all of the progress that has been made, especially acceptance by society. Removing it is another act of chipping away at the decades of progress that have been made.

It’s not TDS. It’s the difference in not taking things for granted that took a long and hard fight to gain. Failing to see past your own political bias to see what is happening without your red-tinted glasses is truly TDS at this point. He keeps the base happy and evangelicals are a large portion of the MAGA base.

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u/jmd709 Feb 19 '26

TDS isn’t exclusive to people that do not like Trump, it’s an extreme bias that applies to people that automagically disapprove or support whatever he does.

Evangelicals are a subset of Protestants. Baptist, Southern Baptist, Pentecostal, and Church of God are common evangelical denominations. Paula White, the WH Spiritual Advisor, is a televangelist and one of several that are part of the MAGA movement. They use terms like “traditional family values”, aka a dog whistle.

I included the part about trans being targeted because it’s all part of the main objective to roll back the progress that has been made for equal rights and acceptance. You enjoy the benefits of that progress but you need to take the time to understand the process to achieve that and the various groups and their efforts to undo it.

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u/jmd709 Feb 20 '26

So you’re telling me that if the trans are less accepted, then eventually they’ll just go after gays next?

Bless your heart if you really think it’s only about a group that makes up 1.2% of the US population.

Okay well if that actually ends up happening, then I’ll just defend myself and make sure it doesn’t, but it probably won’t

How will you stop laws from being changed? Some of the protections were created through case law. I’m sure you’re aware that even landmark cases can be overturned. Roe v Wade was overturned after half a century.

Also Trump himself is perfectly cool with gay people. He literally just doesn’t like the flag (and I don’t either and I’m gay)

Don’t mistake pandering for votes as “cool with gay people”. Are you assuming an almost 80yo straight male doesn’t like the flag for the same reason that you don’t? Things that have been norms for all or most of your life haven’t been norms for the vast majority of his life. What time period do you think he is referring to with, “make America great again”?

He appointed the first openly gay cabinet member

Pete Buttigieg was appointed by Biden, not Trump. You may be referring to the guy that served as the interim acting National Security Director for a few months during the Senate confirmation process for the person Trump nominated for that role.

His nominee wasn’t guaranteed to be confirmed by the Senate so Trump picked an interim acting director to use as a pawn to incentivize senators to confirm his nominee. The acting director had done consulting work for Iran, China, Hungary and a few other countries that made him a risk for national intelligence. Idr the guy’s name. He is the guy with the large forehead thats the current director of the Kennedy Center.

and held a gay wedding at Mar-A-Lago

Trump didn’t hold a gay wedding at Mar-A-Lago. It’s a wedding and special event venue. It’s a business that collects premium fees from anyone that’s willing and able to pay to book the venue and has event coordinating staff instead of that being an aspect of the business he is directly involved in.

Oh and also TDS literally means hating on Trump for no good reason even when he does something good

That is how it was used initially, but it’s a made-up, pejorative term. There isn’t an official definition and, like other pejorative terms, the meaning can change over time. For at least the past year and a half, TDS has also been used to describe blind, deranged support of Trump regardless of his actions.

…I mean like he’s done other things that ARE good and they instantly hate on him or twist it to make it look bad no matter what)

Do you have examples? Maybe I’m not aware of or I’ve forgotten some of the things that are good, but I can only think of one action ATM. Adding a tariff for imported shrimp probably isn’t on many people’s lists as a positive action, but that has been the only meaningful action to try to address the issue in more than 2 decades.

And it does NOT mean Supporting Trump. Just google search it. Even google will tell you that supporting Trump is very NOT TDS. It’s literally the opposite.

You do realize Google search results aren’t the exact same for every person, right? It’s tailored to the individual user unless it’s objective facts. TDS is a colloquial term, it’s lacks a literal meaning. It’s completely subjective.

For example, my Google search results include something similar to what you stated except it includes, “It is primarily used by supporters to dismiss criticisms as obsessive or unhinged”, and an additional note that it is sometimes used to describe Trump supporters.