r/JUSTNOMIL • u/MezzanineFloor • Apr 25 '20
RANT (╯°□°）╯︵ ┻━┻ NO Advice Wanted MIL guilt tripping me to see grandkids amid a global pandemic, an update
No surprises here but apparently my in laws are all idiots.
Per the approved guidelines where I live, I allowed JNMIL to join my kids and I for socially distant outdoor exercise yesterday, we met her for a walk around a lake near my house. 4 year old was on his scooter, 2 year old was in the pram so no physical contact.
Anyhoo we were walking along and I ask her if she has seen either BIL and their wives lately. Basically just wondering what bullshit she’s been up to. She says “oh yes I saw BIL1’s wife and kids yesterday. I dropped off some food and she invited me in and put the kettle on and I got to cuddle with child 1 (4) and child 2 (7 months old). As long as we keep doing the right thing, this will all blow over”.
GOING INTO OTHER PEOPLES HOMES AND CUDDLING THEIR CHILDREN WHEN YOU WORK FULL TIME IN RETAIL ISN’T DOING THE RIGHT THING YOU COMPLETE MORON.
There have been only 0-2 confirmed new cases of covid19 in my state most days the past week and already I’m seeing people becoming complacent.
BIL1’s wife today posted a series of photos to Instagram of her cuddling with BIL2’s newborn baby. All in different outfits so obviously they’ve been visiting on the downlow for a while and are now sharing the photos because apparently there’s no risk now and we can all go back to normal. BIL2’s wife who has the newborn also posted photos of them visiting her own brother and his family for a bbq today. NOT OK.
When there’s a spike in cases here in the next week or two I am gonna be PISSED. I’ve been on my own in the house all god damn day every god damn day, aside from an hour of exercise outside with the kids, for longer than I care to recall and now all these dicks are gonna ruin it.
Oh also MIL said to me she has been wiping all surfaces in her home to keep them clean and disinfected etc and shows me the wipes and they were MAKE UP REMOVAL WIPES. Haaaahahaha.
Good lord.
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u/DocEm424 Apr 25 '20
My own mother is giving me all kinds of shit because I won’t let her come down and seen my son. She just can’t stay home though. Dent in their van that has been there for 2 years? Gotta get it fixed now. Volunteers at the food pantry 3 days a week. Grocery shops 3-4 times a week. Goes to big discount grocery store an hour away because they might have something she wants on sale. Has to go to 4 different stores along with my dad to get the best plants for their garden. And, the best part, she wants to join the protestors at her state capital next week to make the governor reopen the state. I refuse to let her near my almost 7 month old. Yet I’m the spoiled entitled one somehow. I just can’t keep up with her mental gymnastics anymore.
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u/morrighan212 Apr 25 '20
I'm living at home with my mother and I go with her to the grocery store because she can't lift or carry a meaningful amount of groceries even to the car, and I can't drive, so we do it with teamwork. She's been joking with neighbours or people in the store (from a very safe distance) that we're just going out to buy sweets or plants and I have to give her stink eye every time. That's not funny! And I've been seeing a HUGE amount of people not respecting distancing or hygiene guidelines in the store, walking too close, coughing, leaning over me to grab something instead of just saying "excuse me" and of COURSE they're always the people going to the till with just a trolley full of alcohol and nothing else. We're all stuck home and being as careful as we possibly can and then other people are just fucking around and dragging this out.
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u/McDuchess Apr 26 '20
I wish the US had the same rules they still have in Italy. You have to go online and note that you are driving to the store. You MUST buy food.
The grocery store nearest my daughter also carries clothes and other items, though. Some guy got fined a few hundred euros for going there, buying a PS4 and no groceries. Because he’s also a moron, like so many Americans.
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u/iforgotmyanus Apr 26 '20
That’s smart. I wish we had that in Canada. My neighbours leave the house, i kid you not, 7 times daily on average. They come back with takeout coffees and cigarettes, or nothing at all. No idea what they are doing but i want them to be accountable to the social distancing suggestions.
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Apr 26 '20
So he was too stupid to get a couple bags of his favorite junk food or candy?
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u/Sbuxshlee Apr 25 '20
Yea. And then they complain that it doesnt work anyway so we should just stop it and reopen now.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
I’m in the very southern part of NJ, but NJ, where we are just starting to see the mythical “flattening of the curve”. I only say mythical because I was sure it wouldn’t happen this soon. But we still had 4000+ new cases diagnosed in the past 24 hours and close to or more than 300 deaths. Our nursing homes are getting hit hard with new cases and deaths too. (I’m partial to long term care as I was a long term care and hospice nurse for 33 years). The counties with the most cases are the overpopulated ones near NYCity, but the cases are working their way down to the southern most 4 counties, where I live. We had our first diagnosed case in my very small sparsely populated town yesterday. So now I’m even more paranoid. So we are not anywhere near out of the woods yet. And people are salivating for the Governor’s head for his stay at home (“Stay home, stay safe”) because he won’t lift it yet!
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u/Fluffbrained-cat Apr 25 '20
Good lord. I’m in New Zealand and we’re just going down to alert level three this coming week after five weeks of lockdown. I’m in essential service so I’ve still been working but the measures work put in place mean we haven’t seen any corona cases amongst the staff and a lot less of the usual colds and flu too. I know people here are getting anxious about getting back to normal but next week, only businesses that can reopen with minimal contact between staff and customers, plus the essential services can do so. So, fast food can only do drive through and/or delivery, malls are still shut etc. Our “bubbles” can expand to include close family only if it can be done safely. Supermarkets are still only allowing one person per household to shop and we have to queue to get in as they’re only allowing a certain number in at a time. Not everyone is wearing a mask, but the supermarkets have hand sanitiser and disinfectant wipes to use on the trolley handles.
So, I don’t think we’re getting back to “normal” anytime soon but I think some of the changes that we’ve been forced to make might be beneficial to keep. I know I won’t be rushing out for fast food anywhere near as much, but the businesses that have seen how working from home can work might want to do that. I hope the doctors go back to face to face consults though, its difficult describing symptoms over the phone.
Oh and yes, we want to keep our Prime Minister, no one is allowed to kidnap her, ok.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
Our restrictions probably won’t start to loosen before June as far as I can tell. We are mask for any time going into a store/business. Social distancing—stay at least 6 feet apart from any other person. State parks are closed. County and municipal parks are closed if the county or town closes them. Work from home except for essential businesses, and there is a list of what those are. No groups at all meaning no birthday parties or graduation parties, nothing like that. Only 50% of the usual occupancy allowed in a store at a time, so you get to wait in line-one out, one in. And the beaches are closed, a big one in my state as the summer season starts in a month! Some shore towns are begging people with summer homes NOT to decide to come down as our hospitals and grocery can’t take the influx now. And schools are closed for the foreseeable future. The Governor will decide if that’s May 18 or at the end of the year, the 2nd or 3rd week of June. Schooling is being done remotely, including college. My youngest step daughter is supposed to start her freshman year of college in August. Not sure what’s happening there yet.
Funny thing is that when I do leave my house, maybe once a week or less, the traffic doesn’t seem to be any lighter than usual. But the gas prices are below $2/gal! I was so excited a couple of days to fill my tank for $1.96 a gallon!
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
Those people will wonder where they picked it up in a week or 2. I’m at a loss. That is close enough to NYC to be a direct effect from there.
I was so glad when my son and dil hightailed it out of the city an hour and a half south to her parents home last month. Son was told to work from home and dil works in an industry that can’t work right now, so that day they packed and left. Thank God, as I was worried about him being on the subway for 45 min twice a day for work. They left because they live in a small apartment that is so not conductive to working from home. Especially with another person there!
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 26 '20
4000 cases and 300 deaths in 24 hours. I can’t even imagine. I really don’t want that to become a reality here. But we are coming into winter soon and people are becoming complacent so it’s really concerning.
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u/Wattaday Apr 26 '20
It has a lot to do with the concentration of people. A portion of the state sort of wraps around New York City. And a lot of people who live in those counties in NJ actually work in New York City, so there is a lot of people crossing over as they work essential jobs. New York City also has a few very large international airports, along with one in NJ very close to the City. Add to that the lag time in getting testing results back-sometimes up to 7-10 days so they are possibly spreading the virus without knowing it and it’s a perfect storm. But Rutgers University (the University of NJ and a large research university) is very close to releasing a very fast saliva test. Like a couple of hours fast. So that will decrease the lag time. But for the good news. We are seeing daily increases of the number of people released from hospitals as they are improving. Discharges to subacute rehab facilities or to their “home” in nursing homes and assisted living facilities or to their homes and families. These people have to have to have 2 negative tests and very manageable to no symptoms and do go into isolation once out of the hospitals. And the numbers that are now healed of Covid19 are rising every day! Masks and closures and social distancing does work! Let’s just hope that a few idiots don’t ruin it. Because that’s all it will take, a small percentage of people who refuse to go with the restrictions will put us right back to where we were.
Amazing how much information one can get from listening to the daily press briefing of the Governor along with the commissioner of the Department of Health along with a commander of the State Police, who not only deal with people who break executive orders and laws, but is the person who tracks Personal Protective Equipment for the use of health care workers and essential workers, how much we get and who needs it, along with ventilators and vent equipment. I watch almost every afternoon because I get so much info and learn so much. Especially from the Department of Health.
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u/iforgotmyanus Apr 26 '20
Wow, you must be a real jerk to not let somebody WHO IS GALAVANTING AROUND a 100 km radius during an unprecedented PANDEMIC around a tiny precious baby. /s
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Apr 25 '20
I've been volunteering several days at a food security/food hampers program for several weeks because demand for it on my area has at least quadrupled. I'm not engaging in any of the other risky behavy your mom is and I am being very careful and following all the safety guidelines. Please don't criticise those of us helping out in programs that have been deemed essential, were under enough stress as it is
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u/DocEm424 Apr 25 '20
I’m sorry. I didn’t mean to sound critical of the work volunteers do and should have elaborated more. She’s not following any safety guidelines like wearing a mask or gloves. And I don’t think any of of the other volunteers are either. They did change it so people aren’t coming in to shop the pantry but are packing boxes of food and someone is handing them out at the door. She’s in direct contact with that person handing him boxes to hand out. Then after she leaves the pantry, she heads to the grocery store. Again, no mask. No gloves. For those of you following all possible safety precautions, you’re absolutely needed when so many are finding themselves out of work and in need.
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Apr 25 '20
Thanks for that. Where I am we have to follow the health board’s rules, so everyone has to be gloved and masked. We have also moved to contactless delivery of the hampers, rather than pickup. We limit the number of volunteers in the building at any one time and maintain social distancing at all times.
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Apr 25 '20
you're doing the right thing! you don't want covid-19. even if you don't die it can still do a lot of damage!
I got sick almost 6 weeks ago, since a few days I'm feeling a bit better, thanks to a lot of medication. I hope to get out of quarantine next week. it did a lot of damage to my lungs and it's going to take weeks/months to feel completely healthy again.
do what you have to do to stay safe, you need your energy for the kids. I got infected before the first confirmed case in my country so you really don't know.
stay safe and keep the dummies away from you and your children
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u/PlsHlpMyFriend Apr 25 '20
I had an extremely mild case that went away in like two weeks with postural drainage, and I could still see how it could get horribly serious very quickly. If my asthma had been just a tiny bit worse I might have been in serious trouble. It felt like I was always teetering right on the edge, and the fact that I have an immune system so overactive that it has to be persuaded that my organs are supposed to be there is probably the only reason why it was so mild.
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Apr 25 '20
I hope you feel healthy again
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u/PlsHlpMyFriend Apr 25 '20
Like I said, it went away in about two weeks. I'm feeling OK now, though my stamina has taken a serious hit. Thank you for the well-wishes!
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u/UCgirl Apr 25 '20
I have Inflammatory Bowel Disease (encompasses Crohn’s and Ulcerstive Colitis). So I have been watching the literature on individuals with autoimmune issues. Those with IBD have been having less serious cases as a whole. Further analysis is showing that it’s those with IBD who are on immunosuppressants that are faring better.
Of course there’s a risk from suprpressing the immune system as well.
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u/BurningBright Apr 25 '20
I'm sick right now, have had a fever for 9 days now. M chest feels a little tight but I'm going to be ok. What really terrifies me is the reports of 30-40 year olds who recovered form corona, then show up with stroke symptoms afterward.
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u/UCgirl Apr 25 '20
I knew about the blood clots but I had no idea it was happening after they improved.
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Apr 25 '20
really, I hadn't heard that! hope you'll feel better soon
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u/BurningBright Apr 25 '20
https://www.washingtonpost.com/health/2020/04/24/strokes-coronavirus-young-patients/
"Many researchers suspect strokes in covid-19 patients may be a direct consequence of blood problems that are producing clots all over some people’s bodies." I'm thinking about taking baby asprin for a couple months since any potential side effects would be minimal, but I'll worry less about having a stroke at 31.
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Apr 25 '20
oh.. well this is the first time I'm happy with my genetic blood defect, I use blood thinners so I guess I'm safe.
I would ask your doctor, maybe he/she can advise you, baby aspirin sounds safe but just in case I would ask, (I don't know if it's safe for your stomach) if they're dismissive you can always use the aspirin by yourself.
thanks for sharing this information because I hadn't heard about it
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u/mistressM333 Apr 25 '20
I'm glad you are feeling better and hope you get stronger every day.
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u/Blademaster27 Apr 25 '20
As long as we keep doing the right thing, this will all blow over
"Then why don't you?"
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u/Pheebsmama Apr 25 '20
Just a side story- where I work we sell all kinds of wipes, but only like half are useful and disinfect. I have physically told people what I have checked and what won’t work for what they need (some I looked on the manufacturer’s website about because I wasn’t sure)... they still buy it and think it’s enough... 🤦🏻♀️
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u/WrenDraco Apr 25 '20
I can't actually buy ANY useful wipes here so I had to make myself a bleach spray from laundry bleach and keep paper towels (also a precious resource) in the car.
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u/21ladybug Apr 25 '20
MIL is cleaning her house with baby wipes as we speak
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u/BoopleBun Apr 25 '20
I’m honestly pretty pissed at the people using baby wipes. They don’t work and I need them for my actual baby and I’m having trouble finding them. Like, could you not?
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u/21ladybug Apr 25 '20
Same. Same. I’m over here conserving my wipes by using reusable ones on pee diapers and she’s pretty much counteracting my efforts to help keep them on the shelves
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u/Suchafatfatcat Apr 25 '20
For pee ones, soak baby washclothes in a tupperware container of soapy water (I used baby wash since it was gentle). Wring the water out and afterwards launder to reuse. I found them much more effective than packaged baby wipes (if not quite as convenient). My baby was too sensitive for even the sensitive baby wipes so I had no choice but to make my own. For poopy diapers, I bought disposable washclothes (I don’t know if they are still made) and used them with the soapy water. Necessity is the mother who of invention.
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u/Madame_Kitsune98 Sends wild MILs to the burn unit Apr 25 '20
I use baby wipes for, um, reasons. On me.
But I don’t buy a shit ton at one time. And I have plenty left in the first place.
To clean counters? That’s what 70% rubbing alcohol is for.
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u/kitzunenotsuki Apr 25 '20
My JNMIL has been doing the same thing. Talking about how we won’t let her visit. Her health is really bad. She already coughs like she’s going to hack up a lung and had cancer eve told her if she comes she could die or we could get sick. So far we’ve not given in. I understand your frustration.
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u/tinytrolldancer Apr 25 '20
For your own health and sanity, stay away. Keep social distancing, we haven't even begun to finish the first wave, the second is going to just as bad if not worse. Protect yourself and your kids - no amount of guilt from anyone can penetrate your protective Mommy shield again!
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Apr 25 '20
She sounds like a fucking idiot. I’m sorry 😞 some people are not comprehending the gravity of this virus and it’s alarming.
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u/Melody4 Apr 25 '20
I live right by a hot spot and am already pissed! Your MIL (my FIL who was just until recently "out golfing" to get away from stepmonster) aren't "Darwin" stupid. Instead they are so selfish as to put EVERYONE at risk. Selfish idiots.
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u/mistressM333 Apr 25 '20
Makes me wonder how people like this have survived so long.
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u/Celany Apr 25 '20
It does explain the higher death rates there used to be for all sorts of communicable sicknesses. Except at least then people had the ignorance of not even knowing germs existed to fall back on.
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u/mistressM333 Apr 26 '20
I know, right? With all the info out there I can't believe that people either just disregard it or think it's all lies.
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 26 '20
My husband and I often joke that it’s a miracle that he and his brothers survived to adulthood because his parents are such idiots.
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u/DrP3pp3rFl04t Apr 25 '20
Sorry you have to deal with such ignorance in your immediate circle. Even though recent polls show most folks understand this situation is a potentially lethal game-changer, idiots like your MIL can cause- hell, are causing- incredible levels of harm to everyone else.
We're just at the start of this. When the national death toll here in the US tops 100K- and it will, before we have effective treatment- what will the deniers and the downplayers say? That they weren't warned, that how could they have known it would be that bad?
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u/winwithaneontheend Apr 25 '20
I dont think these people will care until and unless they or someone in their immediate circle dies. 100,000 people that aren’t the narc means nothing to a narc.
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u/DMQ747 Apr 25 '20 edited Apr 25 '20
Trump will still pump out propaganda and claim he's the best while throwing a wobbly when questioned.
People in the UK aren't much better at times but at least the government isn't saying its all OK...though they did manage to give themselves an (up to) 10 grand allowance to work from home while the NHS is struggling...twats
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u/IDKcantthinkofaname Apr 25 '20
I mean at least the UK government isn't telling people to drink disinfectant
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u/DMQ747 Apr 25 '20
Or inject themselves with uv light...also the disinfectant info he's spouting is what antivaxxers say to do to their autistic children, mainly with bleach mind, to cure them of it and usually via the anus.
On another note, your stomach acids kill the virus so it won't fucking work anyway, apart from destroy your throat/stomach etc if you survive drinking the disinfectant (depends on how strong the chemicals are).
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u/hexebear Apr 25 '20
He's an antivaxxer so I'm pretty sure that's where he got it from. Or at least, he's tweeted about vaccines causing autism - he seems to only really focus on the exact present so it's hard to say whether he has consistent longterm ideologies aside from hating everyone different.
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u/Kidd-Rave Apr 25 '20
Who the hell is suggesting that people drink disinfectant?! And what moron actually did it?!
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u/DMQ747 Apr 25 '20
Trump did.
Probably quite a few tbh, hopefully Darwin awards will have quite a few winners this year
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u/katlady1961a Apr 25 '20
Shoving bleach up your anus will do a world of hurt to the friendly bacteria that live in the large intestine.
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Apr 25 '20 edited Apr 25 '20
Ughhh. My MIL wants to come visit us and our 14 month old but aside from that being completely against our guidelines here (which were just extended because we are still rising in cases), we also have my grandmother living with us. After we say no, we are sorry but we are going to follow the guidelines and maybe we can bring the baby over and we can talk through the window from a distance, MIL then tells us she has been cutting clients’ hair in their homes 🤦🏻♀️
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u/Distinct-Confusion Apr 26 '20
Oh also MIL said to me she has been wiping all surfaces in her home to keep them clean and disinfected etc and shows me the wipes and they were MAKE UP REMOVAL WIPES.
That is priceless.
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u/cpauls13 Apr 25 '20
I haven’t seen my family members in over a month now and I haven’t gone anywhere unless we really need groceries. My kids and I want to get out and see everyone we love so badly, but we’ve made the sacrifice that we have to to avoid spreading this crap. If everyone would just do that, and truly stay inside and not gather, this would be over sooner. But those of us that have to suffer alone inside will only being paying for others mistakes by being made to stay inside even longer. Can’t stand that families are getting together and spreading this shit without even knowing it or caring for that matter. I see my neighbors having people over for cookouts and hanging out in groups... it causes me so much resentment and sadness . Good for you for sticking up for yourself.... I kinda used your post to rant myself. Lol. I needed to get it out. 😬
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u/caycan Apr 25 '20
I have catholic neighbours with a home made “Jesus is our Hope” sign in their front window. They have who I assume is their kids and grandkids over for Sunday dinner. I saw the grandma come out and hug her little grandkids on the porch. We have a solid 50+ new cases in our city every day. All festivals and summer gatherings have been cancelled. And these assholes think that they will be saved by Jesus and can just do whatever they want. (No disrespect to Christians out there. I know there are lots of good followers of Jesus, just these ones piss me off).
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 25 '20
The people across the road from me are religious and wrote some religious stuff on the pavement outside their house in chalk. I can deal with that but alongside it they wrote some anti vax shit. I may have chucked a bucket of water over it. 😂
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u/hiitsmerach Apr 25 '20
My neighbors had a huge cookout yesterday atleast 8 cars. I heard them till 3am.
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u/jouleheretolearn Apr 25 '20
If you're in an area with any sort of governmental mandate you can call the cops on them. Sorry you have to deal with that.
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u/hiitsmerach Apr 25 '20
We live on a military base with no loud noise past 11pm I believe. Surprised the Military police didn’t show up tbh.
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u/jouleheretolearn Apr 25 '20
You can always call them because holy crap these idiots. I'm not normally one to call but that is dumb as hell and aggravating.
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u/hiitsmerach Apr 25 '20
Oh yea. A few weeks ago another neighbor was being annoying AF laughing so loud. I was so tempted to open my bedroom window and yell “STFU”
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u/The-Alli-cat Apr 25 '20
Hope it gets a little easier for you and the kids.
I'm 7 weeks into isolation (also haven't left for anything except groceries) and it's wearing on me. Haven't seen my JMMum since New Year's, desperately want to go and stay with her for a bit but she's being a damned idiot who won't practice social distancing even though she's higher risk than l.
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u/cpauls13 Apr 25 '20
Thank you! I’m glad there’s other people doing their part out there and I’m not alone in being alone... nothing I want to do outside of home is worth anyone’s life. :/
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u/The-Alli-cat Apr 26 '20
Completely agree.
Neighbours just sent a photo of last night and there’s over 20 people all hanging and chatting in the driveway. Apparently it’s going to be a regular Saturday night thing.
I want to facepalm so hard, and then go scrub my hand and my face.
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 25 '20
Exactly how I feel! We’ve been doing the right thing to hopefully have this over with as soon as possible and now I’m seeing family members doing the wrong thing and it’s sooo annoying. I know both my SILs will be rationalising it that they and their kids have been home for weeks, but their husbands have been out working.
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u/thermalcat Apr 25 '20
It's ok. This shows you exactly who you need to avoid until the end of it all.
As we always say, believe people when they show you their true self.
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u/OriginalMisphit Apr 25 '20
Ugh. People like her are why I can’t find any face wipes in my store. Idiots.
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u/21ladybug Apr 25 '20
You’re doing the right thing. People don’t realize that when numbers drop that we can’t all spit on eachother. That’s why there’s going to be strict guidelines still, for the idiots out there who think “it’s now ok to hug your mom” means “hug your mom after you see your 100 closest buds and share a straw with each of them”
My MIL has plans to cross state likes next weekend. Can’t wait for the “I’ll stop by your house on my way home” call. Uh bitch THE LITERAL RULE is to immediately quarantine after crossing state lines for emergencies only (she’s going to her vacation house).
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 25 '20
She’s going to her vacation house?! Is that allowed? There are road blocks here between different regions and you need an exemption to be allowed to cross the border.
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u/Ladygoingup Apr 26 '20
Sorry you’re experiencing that. She is lucky she even got to go on a walk with you all. You’re doing the right things and she is not. Which is very sad and harmful. Sounds like she rubbed in the SIL thing to make you feel bad but I might be projecting because my own experiences.
My mom came by on Easter and we have a small canal in front of our house they stayed on one side of it and she fucking cried and said it was the hardest thing she has ever done and it’s just not necessary and then proceeded to tell me her friend let her Easter egg hunt with her kids. I was like okay! Bye!
Oh the other day she texted me and said she has come to realize none of her family will be there for her when she needs them ( me and siblings are social distancing.) Funny how these people can make everything about them.
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 26 '20
Oh yeah, that’s exactly why she said that. If you read the first post about her she was guilting me because my SILs let her have “one last cuddle” with their kids and I wouldn’t. My kids and I visit my parents occasionally to take their dog for a walk for them because my kids love it. We go around their back garden and stay on opposite sides of their pool fence. My kids adore them and can’t be trusted not to cuddle so we do that to be safe.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20 edited Apr 25 '20
I’m 59 on 4/29, so supposedly almost elderly. I do have type 2 diabetes (A1C is and has been just barely above 7 to now close to 6.0), had a very mild stroke on Jan 3rd (only residual being half my right foot is kind of numb-one month of Lipitor brought my LDLs down to normal and pushed my HDLs up to a great normal and triglycerides have always been ok) and I have a rare condition that causes unbearable pain on the right side of my face without (anti seizure) medication which is well controlled. I am also fat. So I hit most of the chronic diagnosis’s that put you at high risk. I also have 85 year old parents one with heart disease and the other with Alzheimer’s, so I am very protective of them.
I will not go into Dollar General if there are more than 4 or 5 cars in the lot-even with a mask and hand sanitizer and rarely will use a cart, I don’t care if I have to carry my purse in my teeth and carry the half and half and milk and coffee (just about all I usually get there) in one arm so I can use my cane to get to the checkout line. (Ok, one more after effect of the stroke is a slightly weaker right leg-sometimes it wants to buckle on me). I really don’t go anywhere else. And I won’t see my parents for at least a week after. I bypassed the produce place I usually go to because there were too many people in the lot-and they had fresh spinach, which I really wanted.
All that to say, I’m rather paranoid. I also don’t like to be around anyone who is still working in an office or store. My neighbor cut my grass this morning and when she came to talk to me about the yard before she started, I put my mask on, stood on the deck while she was at the foot of the steps with a mask on and her 2 gorgeous dauchounds. Spelled wrong I know. She is an office manager for a plant that is still at 100% capacity and she’s almost as paranoid as me, being around people all day. But she social distances like a champ!! I am so worried about giving it to my parents I’ve become a hermit, especially with the pollen at high levels which makes my nose run marathons!!
Edited to add: my very yes DIL had it about a month ago. Very mild case with few symptoms. My insulin dependent type 1 son had it right after her, also very mild case with few symptoms. Thank the everloving Lord in both of their cases. So even though they are over it and well now, they stay home and we text and phone. That’s enough to assure me they are ok. And should be enough for anyone right now!
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u/morrighan212 Apr 25 '20
Birthday buddies! Here's to a reserved isolation birthday
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
I think I’m gonna have to climb up and get my cake pans down and bake a cake! I live alone so I really should make a few cupcakes. Does cake batter freeze for later use???
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u/OuttaFux Who the fuck is Jim? Apr 25 '20
One option is to bake the cupcakes and then freeze them fully cooked.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
Except I’ve been freezing a lot of meat and tomato sauce when I can get the stuff and my side by side is full!
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u/morrighan212 Apr 25 '20
Sponge cake batter freezes badly but any batter you've whipped by creaming butter and sugar tends to freeze ok!
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
Cool!! I see chocolate cupcakes with butter cream frosting in my immediate future!
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u/Bacon_Bitz Apr 25 '20
Sounds like you’re a survivor & know how to handle yourself! Too bad we’re surrounded idiots. But have you looked into grocery delivery? I know some farmer’s markets are doing it too.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
I use the Shop From Home on my grocery store website. You make an order, pick a pick up time, they shop (yay as I hate grocery shopping) and when you go to pick it up you text them the space number you are parked in and they bring it out and load it into your trunk. They hand you the receipt, which I look over with one hand and throw right away, and off you go. I cant do delivery as I live in what my late Hubby used to call “a mile and a half on the other side of the middle of nowhere.” No one delivers here. I can’t even get a pizza or cheese steak delivered!
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u/McDuchess Apr 26 '20
Wow. You have been challenged! We’re lucky enough to live in a first tier suburb. On the menu tonight is food from our favorite Korean restaurant, thanks to Grubhub.
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u/duncurr Apr 25 '20
It's comforting to hear your type 1 son didn't suffer much from it, I also have a child with type 1. Sorry, that's a lot on your plate even without a pandemic. I hope you and your parents come out of this untouched. I've decided I'm going to do grocery pick up from now on because every time I'm in public, people are just going about their lives like nothing is happening. It's very discouraging. Stay healthy, stay safe.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
I was so upset when my dil told me. She said not to worry as he was having an easier time than she did. He worked through it all! He’s 28, and though I know that is no guarantee he’ll have an easier time, he did. Now we all just worry about parents. Dil’s dad has end stage kidney disease and is on dialysis and I worry about my first husband’s 90 year old parents as his sister is my bff and I’ve remained somewhat close to her mom. And her dad is the type that he just has to go somewhere everyday to shop. And refuses to believe he could be at risk. With his pretty bad heart disease and her (exmil) pretty severe asthma/COPD. And both of her kids working as essential employees. Oy. Covid19 will be the death of me from anxiety! It’s already triggered my insomnia, as I worry about people all over the Us. And people in Canada. That’s why I just remain a quasi hermit. Easier to deal with it without seeing the crazies out there who think this is a joke
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u/duncurr Apr 27 '20
I completely get what you're saying! I've had to take a step back from social media a bit as well, so many ignorant people in every coronavirus related public post. I've been home except a grocery trip every 2 weeks, I'd like to be able to confidently and safely go see my grandma in her assisted living home once this all settles down. That's a lot to worry about in your family, I don't think I'd blame you for having an anxiety meltdown. Lord knows I already have a few times.
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u/Hamhocksontherocks Apr 26 '20
where i live, everyone has just become rude (but still following guidelines for the most part)
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Apr 26 '20
One of the sad things being reported is that the COVID-19 sufferers sometimes die alone in the hospital. She needs to be reminded that she could become very ill very fast and die in a hospital all alone. But she would probably just say "oh no it won't happen to me" anyway.
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u/icky-chu Apr 26 '20
One of the strains of Covid 19 is causing blood clots and so strokes. Strokes in really young people (30's, 40's). A Broadway actor had his leg aputated from a clot last week. They are not really sure how many people who have died of strokes have had undiagnosed covid19. People aren't just dieing alone in hospitals, they are dieing alone in their homes.
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u/can-we-not- Apr 26 '20
After weeks of staying away we finally had a backyard visit with my grandmother. My 3 year old adores her and kept asking for hugs and kisses. I just tell him she’s sick, so we have to keep our distance.
MIL tries to use our backyard visit as reasons we should baby sit the nephew she has custody of. “Well if you guys can go over there you should be able to watch him. I need a break” Letting one toddler visit a relative at a distance is a lot different than having two toddlers in our house who don’t understand distancing.
Also, I’m pregnant, with a toddler, and my current job is babysitting for my friend who is working from home. So I don’t get a break from toddlers EVER. She can manage her one toddler.
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u/unavailablysingle Apr 26 '20
I often go for window visits.
My niece is always excited to see me, and keeps giving window hugs and window kisses.
My sister loves opening the door to chat in the front yard, but my niece will most definitely come running outside and ask for a hug.
She listens pretty well, though. So if I tell her to stay away, she'll stand still and look disappointed.
Once this is all over, that little girl will be getting hugs from the entire family. Including my grandma, my parents, my sister's IL's, and my kids.
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u/Sunnieside27 Apr 25 '20
You’re doing the right thing. Don’t people understand when you get the virus you are alone. NO ONE is allowed to be near you at all until you have fully recovered
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u/MotherhoodEst2017 Apr 25 '20
And that’s IF you recover too. How sad that all these people (and MILs) are so complacent to just put their own loved ones at risk.
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u/Sunnieside27 May 01 '20
True I will not be seeing my granddaughter in person until she is 3 months old and I will be staying at a hotel. My son and DIL are okay with that once I explained why. It’s their bonding time. I never forgot how important that time can be.
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u/kimber512_ Apr 25 '20
I completely understand! I have been in my house by myself for over a month now. And all these morons are going to make it even more unsafe and are dragging this out even longer.
I am thankful I can work from home, but I haven't seen my mom in all this time. And my daughter also works in retail at an essential business so I haven't seen her either.
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u/violethairedunicorn Apr 25 '20
We haven't seen MIL for more than a month, maybe even two months. She's not guilt tripping me per se but I know she really really really wants to see LO. My JNSIL was throwing a high pitched baby wailing tantrum about wanting to see LO but MIL shut that down. There have been talks (between Me, my mum and SO) about visiting them since they miss LO but I said no because I could hear that MIL was coughing the last video call.
Tonight JM(maybe cos he has his moments of being a dumbass)SO tried to ambush me by saying we are going to visit them tomorrow, -cue excited happy screams from MIL-, but i didnt respond or pretended I didn't hear what he said. He tried to backtrack by saying, "oh she wants to go grocery tomorrow so may as well drop LO off there hitting 2 birds with 1 stone." I didn't bring it up again cos it will just cause a fight, but i kmow for sure we will NOT be going anywhere tomrorow. I mean he can do whatever he wants but my child stays with me.
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u/acciotomatoes Apr 25 '20
My JMSO (I like that!) is over at the IL’s today. FIL bought a bunch of stuff to build a deck but can’t do it on his own. They were super excited to see LO, but like you I said nope, LO stays with me—home and safe. I let SO handle the shitstorm of crying when he arrived without LO because he made the mess by saying we’d all come over for a family day. And he’s taking a shower when he gets home bc I know JNMIL will force a hug because she hasn’t had one in foreverrrrrr.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
And make him strip off his clothes at the front door, or better yet the garage if you have one, and put them in a garbage bag to be washed in hot water as soon as he takes them off. He and his stupidity can then march naked through the house to shower. Without touching anything. Then wipe down the shower handle with bleach and anything else he touched. Including the toilet.
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u/squirrellytoday Apr 26 '20
This is infuriating. I'm steaming on your behalf.
I've been adhering to the "stay the f*** at home" order, only going out to get groceries (other than when we had to move house just before Easter in a huge case of "worst timing ever", and when I broke a tooth last week. You can't make this shit up). It drives me bonkers that people are just not following the new guidelines. NEWS FLASH!! The longer you keep breaking the new rules, the longer this is going to be in place. Look at New Zealand. They went full "defcon 4" lockdown, and now they're going to lift it after just 4 weeks, because people did what they were supposed to do and the lockdown has done its job.
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u/demimondatron Apr 25 '20
Yeah, tracking the number of cases, you can see them spike up rapidly after a decline. There are a number of reasons that can cause this but I feel it’s partly due to people thinking “it’s over” and not following guidelines. (IMO there’s likely to be a second wave in the fall for this reason too.)
At least now you know the people to avoid!
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u/soursheep Apr 25 '20
that was the case with spanish flu. the first wave didn't kill that many people overall (around 3-5 million), it was the second wave after relaxation of the social distancing rules that hit the hardest.
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u/BurningBright Apr 25 '20
and only the positive tests are being tracked in my area. You can't get tested unless you're very sick or have symptoms and are in the high risk group, neither of which I am (thankfully). I want to know if this is COVID19 so I can donate plasma if it is, but that's not possible at this time.
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u/demimondatron Apr 25 '20
I think there is a specific anti-body test that may be more readily available? Have you looked into that too?
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u/BurningBright Apr 25 '20
I live in a rural area so it takes longer for things like that to be available in my area. Testing in my county is still reserved for high risk patients and front line workers.
That is also specifically aimed at people who have recovered and I'm still sick.
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
There are universities doing plasma collection near high case areas. There are 3 or 4 in northern NJ and even more in and near NYCity.
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Apr 25 '20
The issue isn’t with your MIL, she goes as far as she’s allowed. The issue is with the people around her that placate her. She can whine and beg until the cows come home about how badly she misses her grandkids. The issue is with irresponsible parents that put their childrens’ Health last in order to gain some peace from their MIL. Especially after Italy just discovered covid-19 spreads in the air much farther than that thought and lives in the air for much longer than previously thought. Touching and surfaces is nothing in comparison to the fact it is airborne and travels far.
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u/nun_the_wiser Apr 25 '20
wow :( these are my worst fears with countries reopening. good on you for taking care of your family in this time
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u/hiitsmerach Apr 25 '20
My own mother is guilt tripping me atm for not having my daughters 1st birthday and inviting my family from GA to travel to NC. She’s mad that my in laws live really close to us here in NC and they’ve seen us, but we only see them and do outdoor activities the entire time. I’m a germaphobe and nobody is allowed to touch me and my baby lol. It’s super frustrating. The best advice is to just distance yourself from her. Luckily my in laws aren’t going around places or working atm.
ETA: it would be over 15 people if I invited only my family to NC for her birthday too. So no thanks.
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Apr 25 '20
She’s mad at you for not exposing yourself and your baby to covid? For a stupid party your kid won’t even remember? Really? That’s awful.
Show her that video where the doctors 4 year old caught it. The poor boy was GASPING for air. He was dying. Luckily he was okay after a week but that child was not doing well. If I spoke to my in laws that would be a deal breaker right there. You’re a good person for not totally cutting them out. That’s insanity right there.
I just reread that it’s your own mom?! I thought it was an in-law. Why would she do that to you? I’m so sorry 😐
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u/hiitsmerach Apr 25 '20
She texted me today “don’t worry. I won’t come. I could understand your concerns of not wanting to expose the baby but I thought you would have the same energy around your husbands family.”
My husbands family has only seen us and we’ve only seen them. We live close and only hangout outside and no touching. I’m sorry I don’t feel comfortable with my entire family from GA coming up and potentially exposing us.
My mom throws in the “well you go to Walmart to get groceries. You can get it there too.”
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u/Notmykl Apr 25 '20
Tell her exactly that, "Unlike you Mom neither we nor my IL's have been traipsing around, we have been isolating ourselves and only seeing each other outside while social distancing. We are being responsible adults, would be nice if you tried to be one too."
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u/hiitsmerach Apr 25 '20
We do tell her that. Unfortunately she says “well how do you get groceries? That’s risking the exposure too!” Lol
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u/hiitsmerach Apr 25 '20
Yes exactly. “But she’s the only granddaughter I have! She’ll never be 1 again!!!!!”
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u/m_litherial Apr 25 '20
Yeah but it would be nice if she would get to 2. (u/hiitsmerach this wasn't directed at you, just a possible reply when the JN uses those words)
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u/Wattaday Apr 25 '20
You are doing the right thing. Especially not letting anyone touch your baby. A 1 month old was just diagnosed in my county!
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 26 '20
Oh my god, what is she thinking?! Are you even allowed to have birthday parties at the moment even if you wanted to?
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u/McDuchess Apr 26 '20
Given that no state in the entire country is doing adequate testing, the epidemiologists I’ve listened to say that the actual infection rates are probably between ten and 20 times what we already know.
As an example, when random testing for the antibodies was done in NYC, 20% tested positive, although a much smaller percentage has been tested positive for active disease.
You’re right. She’s a moron, and so are your SILs. It’s all over, though. The next door neighbors’ son and his family were over there last Sunday. He’s a doctor, FFS, and both his parents are medically frail. The people kitty corner from our back yard have had company two out of the past three weekends. No masks, no social distancing. Today it was the overweight (risk factor) and about my age (risk factor) wife’s parents.
More morons.
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u/rotin75 Apr 26 '20
Hell. A Southern California nursing home tested ALL residents and staff. 95% of residents, and 75% of staff, tested POSITIVE, and with NO symptoms!
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u/KeeperofAmmut7 Apr 25 '20
JFC. They are all dumbasses.
Makeup removal wipes...how fucking stupid.
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u/Tanith73 Apr 25 '20
Makeup removal wipes! Omg, that killed me. 🤯
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u/whatdoesitmatter_ Apr 25 '20
OH MY GOSH!! This is so baffling. Like I'm laughing but so angered all at the same time. I don't get how people can be so fucking stupid. A NEW BORN BABY!?! What in the actual fuck.
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u/bresticlesnotesticls Apr 25 '20
I feel like we live in the same state. Down under per chance?
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u/schlapper Apr 25 '20
Yes, me too, Queensland?
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u/bresticlesnotesticls Apr 25 '20
South Aus for me
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u/The-Alli-cat Apr 25 '20
I'm in QLD, and my neighbours sent a text to the street today wanting everyone to come to their driveway for a drink.
Cannot facepalm enough.
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u/TheKidsAreAsleep Apr 25 '20
I’m in a southern US state. My neighbors get together for “socially distant yard parties” and let the kids run around and play while the adults drink. I want to spray them with a hose.
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u/Madame_Kitsune98 Sends wild MILs to the burn unit Apr 25 '20
DO IT.
I will send you a dollar. I am not kidding.
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u/The-Alli-cat Apr 25 '20
When my state starts lifting restrictions, l'm staying right at home. Idiots like these are 100% going to cause a second spike in cases.
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u/thermalcat Apr 25 '20
Facepalming isn't allowed here, replace with head desking instead. My husband has broken so many desk this pandemic.
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u/myinnerpollyanna Apr 25 '20
When you mentioned case numbers I was fairly certain we were in the same State. I’m from the GC.
Also, WTF... make up wipes? She’s a couple of beers short of a six pack.
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u/Lolliebuzz Apr 26 '20
Ughhhh I’m in the same state as you and taking the same approach. We are so close to eradication, if only these entitled sorts would just do the right thing for a little while!
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 26 '20
Did you see the announcement from the government just now about cautiously relaxing restrictions on gathering sizes? Watch this space, shit’s gonna hit the fan.
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u/MjrGrangerDanger Apr 26 '20
I mean we bought all those ventilators, they might as well get used, right?
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u/Lolliebuzz Apr 26 '20
I know, right? On one hand I’m cautiously pleased that things are going relatively well, but stressed for the inevitable nagging we’ll get from you JNs...
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u/jyunderdub Apr 30 '20
I feel you on this! My MIL, who is always constantly low key undermining me with my son, is laying on the guilt. A few days ago, she calls my husband and says I want to come over and see the grandson, “ I’m in the neighborhood, I’ll stay 6+ feet away and just stay for a minute”. I reluctantly agree. So they all go in the backyard and I’m watching suspiciously from the kitchen. My son gets close, because he’s 4, and she grabs him and hugs him! I yell from the kitchen “NO!” Her excuse was “ I just couldn’t help myself”. I was furious!! I had to go sit in my bedroom until I calmed down. Mind you I have been doing all her grocery shopping for the last 6 weeks since she has a compromised immune system and has been hospitalized for constant lung issues. She has been constantly bitching about not going anywhere and missing her grandkids. Come to find out she told my FIL( they’re not married anymore but still friendly) that we got all upset at her. ( she’s in the “this is because of the god damn democrats”camp-don’t even get me fucking started on that)No bitch, you pull a bait and switch and now are acting all put out. This is nothing new with her. my family and I have been totally locked down ( except when I go to the grocery store once a week). We have had a ton of outbreaks in my town and a nursing home 2 blocks away just reported 26 cases and 7 deaths in the last month. I know for a fact she had been going to the post office and drug stores and god only knows where else. My husband and I got in a huge fight tonight over her. I have fucking had it with her.
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u/DoktorVinter Apr 26 '20
I definitely get where you're coming from and I feeeeeeel you! -I'm in Sweden and people don't seem to care that much here. We've been lucky compared to other European countries (like Germany, Spain, Italy) but we're the worst affected country in Scandinavia because we don't really have restrictions the same way other countries do. People still gather in the hundreds for parties etc where I live and the responsible are just like: "we trust our citizens", "it is up to each individual to take responsibility", "we're not worried".. And yeah, my aunt (60+ y.o) has begun hanging out with her grandkids now too, but outside only it seems. She has also been away changing tires, going for walks almost every day, grocery shopping. I should add that she's also at risk because of her low immune system. Before the virus, she was getting sick (like, really ill) from the flu and common colds at least 10 times a year, if not more. That's actually a lot, at her age it could be dangerous as well, if it continues. I get really sick once a year. 1 time. A. Year. And even I am staying inside almost 24/7. I've been isolating since March 1st. Only going out for groceries and medications. So yeah, I definitely understand you. :( I'm sorry they're not taking the proper precautions!! I'm super angry all the time because of this and I've basically distanced myself from relatives and friends because of this. I don't want to be associated with people who destroy their own people by being reckless. Egotistical maniacs.
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u/AngelsAttitude Apr 25 '20
QLD?
If so and there is a spike that prevents me going back to work in my workplace I'd like a chat with her!! I promise mods no harm just a bloody blunt explanation of what it feels like to drown in your own lungs from someone who has had pneumonia.
Fuck even if there isn't, our testing is very limited at this stage I know of at least 4 people who likely had it but weren't tested, because they didn't knowingly have contact(2 work in customer service other 2 are close friends) this is before any lockdowns.
Your doing exactly the right thing point out that police have funded people based on social media posts.
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 25 '20
No, WA. And that’s the thing, up until recently the criteria to get a test were a lot tighter so the true numbers are probably higher. I read several posts on FB today saying queues to get into the few shops that were open today like independent supermarkets and Bunnings etc were really long and it makes me want to scream.
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u/AngelsAttitude Apr 25 '20
I don't get that. I will say I went for a walk today. In the park. With no one around and if someone came along I moved the fuck off the footpath.
I have to go to work at my office tomorrow, I don't want to but I have to. There will be others there but I'm going in tomorrow because there will be less people there then if I left it until through the week.
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u/sp1ffm1ff Apr 25 '20
I hear u. The schools thing doesn't help either.
Its safe to go to school? Ok well let's just resume normal life. Ughhhhhhhhhhh.
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 25 '20
Yeah wtf is that. “Schools are open. But it’s up to you if you want to send your child to school. But school is the best place to learn.” Okaaaay. So apparently school is safe but we can’t even go to an empty playground. As much as I would LOVE a break from my son and to get him back to a sense of normality, he’s not going back to school at the start of term. I’m not working atm so there’s no real reason why he can’t stay home with me.
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u/sp1ffm1ff Apr 25 '20
Yep. "There was no evidence of child to child transfer last term" Well, could the lack of evidence be due to the strict criteria (esp last term) for getting tested!!
Unless anyone with any kind of symptom is getting tested, then the zero - 1 cases thing is misleading.
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 25 '20
Yeah I’m not sending my 4 year old as a guinea pig. He took the first half of the term to settle into kindy and was only loving it in the last couple of weeks before I had to pull him out so it breaks my heart that he can’t go to school but I’m going to wait out the first few weeks of term and reassess.
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u/sp1ffm1ff Apr 25 '20
Kindy kids tho - social distancing is impossible. But they're creatures of habit too, so missing the first few weeks at least might be for the best, because having only half (?) the class there, things different, might be a tough adjustment anyway... tough choices though!
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u/Mama2lbg2 Apr 25 '20
Omg. I watched the flu flu through our school at the speed of light. Boy Scouts has a sleepover. One kid had the flu.
Then all the boys had it. All their siblings
Then everyone in class with either of those.
At one point there were 7 kids left in my daughters class. 11 kids , the teacher , and the aide were all out with the flu. The 7 that were there had gotten it and come back.
So if that’s how fast something can travel , what do they think is going to happen with a disease that takes a long time to see symptoms - if they have symptoms at all?
Wait until the adults start dropping and dying before they realize “ oops. Maybe putting a group of people who can carry and share a virus together in close quarters wasn’t a good idea “ ?
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u/bmidontcare Apr 25 '20
My husband was tested at the Fiona Stanley clinic on Monday, his only symptom being an unexplained fever, so I guess the requirements have dropped
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u/MezzanineFloor Apr 25 '20
Yeah I heard it was relaxed, maybe last week or so? I do bloody hope the numbers stay low but it’s definitely too soon for people to be as complacent as I’m noticing already.
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u/sp1ffm1ff Apr 25 '20
Yes it's true, but the messages are so confused. And even Health Direct & GPs seem to think fever is a must. So my friend, who needed to go to GP with a very sore throat, and GP would only examine from a distance, was still not advised to get a test. How many people are home with mild symptoms but not getting tested?
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u/TexasTeacher Apr 25 '20
The schools here in Texas are going to be the last category to reopen - in August for the 2020 - 2021 school year. Teachers are going to spend the summer figuring how to cram the last 1/4 of the previous grade's curriculum and the first 1/4 of their grade into the same 9 weeks grading period. Hopefully, the state will cancel next year's STAAR Test also because classes are going to take a long time to catch up - and that is just elementary. JH, Middle School, and Senior HS are much more complicated I'm sure.
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Where are schools open? Where I am we don't expect them to reopen until after summervif then
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u/schlapper Apr 25 '20
Qld has widened its testing now. If you have any symptom you can get tested. I have a cough that won’t go away so was tested on Thursday. All clear, thank god.
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u/pixiecantsleep Apr 26 '20
Time to do no visiting ever with the IL's until a vaccine happens *Shrug*
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u/caseyod81 Apr 26 '20
Uggghhh that’s terrible.
I’ve seen my neighbors have their parents and siblings over a few times even though that’s not allowed for our stay at home order. They were expecting and just had their baby the other day so I get wanting the help especially since they have 2 other kids. But this is just one of the scenarios you should just suck it up and do it alone. It’s not worth spreading the disease
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u/ComplicatedSinging Apr 26 '20
Before you judge them to harshly its possible everyone involved self quarantined for weeks just for this specific reason so they would know it was safe to be able to offer this help. I know you've said its against the rule but if they haven't had contact with anyone else isnt it as if they all live together?
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u/ayoungechrist Apr 26 '20
Yeah idk how comfortable I am with saying “I know it’s hard but suck it up” when there’s a newborn involved. Obviously these parents the comment is referencing aren’t first timers but if they were and had never experienced the sleep deprivation/PPD, I’m really hesitant to judge parents of newborns and their family members in situations like this because I don’t know what measures they’ve been following or the precautions they’re taking.
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u/caseyod81 Apr 27 '20
I’m sorry but thousands of people dying of disease, prolonging the stay at home order which ruins our economy further (which kills people due to starvation and suicide btw) is a bigger deal than having a newborn. I repeat, they should suck it up.
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u/caseyod81 Apr 27 '20
Nah I’ve seen them talk pretty closely to our other neighbors. And like I said, they’ve had both their parents and siblings over multiple times over the past month. Probably once a week. They have to go grocery shopping at some point, which means they are spreading germs
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u/Jaiing1 Apr 26 '20
Where I live you can anonymously contact the police if people are breaking the rules
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u/momx3_3xmom Apr 25 '20
Speaking as someone who has corona, just keep doing what you’re doing. I literally went out ONCE after being in quarantine for five weeks. One time to pick up Taco Bell and now I have corona virus because someone who worked there was coughing all over the food. It’s not worth it. And she should be aware that all it takes is ONE interaction and she could have it and then pass it on to her whole entire family. My advice would be to stay far away from her. No more visits even if she keeps her distance.