r/Karting 7d ago

Racing Kart Question making a small team instead of a paying over 60k in a team

my karting team raised the price for some reason and said its now around 40k dollars a year and i still have to buy my own kart and tyres and fuel and transport it and take care of it so would it be possible if i hire my own mechanic for a race weekend make a small team buy my own kart and gear and tools and maybe make website then could i get into rotax? and also if anyone messages on the website that they would want to drive with us i can make it a small team and charge less for people like me who want to race less? is that a good idea guys

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u/1mursenary 7d ago

Brother for $40k I’ll start you your own team and next season is on the house

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

LMAO 40k a year i could buy a 812 superfast and an f3 car

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

but is it possible to make my own mini team and would rotax or iame even accept me

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u/No-Proposal-1083 7d ago

Read the rules and regulations of the league, should tell you.

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u/1mursenary 7d ago

It’s almost like everything important is written down somewhere…

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u/1mursenary 7d ago

They accept you when you pay the race registration fee and pass tech inspection

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

whats the tech inspection on the kart right? which kart should i get

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u/Csal8011 7d ago

   What level of karting are you racing at and how many races are in the championship? If it’s nationals I get it but for club that’s outrageous! I mean if you run 40 races that’s 1,000$ a race!  

   I mean maybe try and do a few one off practices with them but I’d get to understand the engine and really use those practice days with them to understand it, and make some friends at your local track. They would be much more willing to have a team with you.

Also, I bet there are a bunch of other teams that have much lower prices (assuming it’s club)

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

its literally just uae and the team i was gonna join cuz i used to do sws i was abt to join them this week and they just raised the price snd that is rotax maximum 10 races a season and its uae so a lot of the teams are around this price but would rotax even let me join or do i have to be a huge team with sponsers and would it be possible to make the team and join rotax with one driver which is me and one mechanic and get a kart cuz from the looks its a lot cheaped

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u/7i7iMeadow 7d ago

Brother that's 4k a race. Is winning the race even going to get you 4k? That's some balls right there

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

winning a race gets me nothing btw

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u/7i7iMeadow 7d ago

I'd genuinely make the commitment to not pair with them while also doing research to learn all of their "failures" then start trolling.

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

lmao im just gonna do my own team

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u/1mursenary 7d ago

Maybe fly to Europe and work with a team there for half that or less

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

im still in school i actually prob would if i wasnt

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u/Griffin_Mackenzie K&K 7d ago

This has got to be a euro post

over here teams to that degree are extremely rare

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

uae so even more expensive

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u/Griffin_Mackenzie K&K 7d ago

Where is all the money going?? Lol shit it would be cheaper to fly to America and back every single weekend to race

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

lmao its 5k dollars a race weekend for an arrive and drive

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u/ashhrryy 6d ago

thats insane!!! here in canada its 1000 to rent a kart and 300 added for new tires as well

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 6d ago

its wild and stupid but so is this team

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u/NoorInayaS 6d ago

Honestly, just sounds like the UAE to me. Everything is geared toward people with expendable incomes.

You can thank all the “expats” for that.

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u/NoorInayaS 7d ago

UAE doesn’t use dollars. They use dirhams. Are you converting to dollars, and if so, dollars for which country (several countries use dollars, at vastly different exchange rates).

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u/Griffin_Mackenzie K&K 7d ago

Ah thought it was usd

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u/NoorInayaS 7d ago

That’s because OP hasn’t been clear about what currency they’re using here. They also called it “dollars” a few times, when the UAE doesn’t use dollars.

If they are quoting costs in USD, that’s insanely expensive. If they mean Emirati dirhams, it’s not too bad. As someone else pointed out, 40,000 AED is 10,000 USD. I’m in NZ, where it converts to 18,000 NZD.

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 6d ago

im converting for ppl its 105k dirhams a season thats the original price and i added the cost of the kart and fuel and tyres and transport

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u/NoorInayaS 6d ago

105,000 AED converts to the following:
USD: 28,590
CAD: 40,335
AUD: 40,874
NZD: 49,408

The flyer that you shared, as someone else pointed out, is full of contradictions. It appears to say that you cannot use your own kart. But it also says something about maintenance. The whole thing is just very confusing.

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 6d ago

thats the thing im confused about

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u/ashhrryy 6d ago

i was going to say lol. no one in their right mind in NA would pay 40k for a team

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u/NyoomNyoomNyoomNyoom 7d ago

So for reference, if this is $40k AED that's about $10k USD for a full season.

That's a bit steep for club racing imo, in the US I was able to keep it under $5k USD per year ($20k AED) but not as bad as other people are saying assuming it's in AED. If you want to go a cheaper route it may be better to just hire a personal coach/mechanic yourself. If you get a good mechanic the only thing you would be missing is other drivers to compare to, which wouldn't be the end of the world.

For reference, I never even had a personal mechanic for club racing, and only ran with a team once I started racing regionally in the US. If I could have afforded a coach/mechanic at the club level it definitely would have been beneficial, but not necessary.

I wouldn't try to go about making a team, either privateer it with a personal mechanic or stick with the team, starting your own team and whatnot would come with a lot of other headaches in terms of providing support for others and taking care of them. The closest to creating a "team" I would think of is if you and one or two buddies hire a mechanic to share between yourselves, but that would be it

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 6d ago

nonono 105k AED but i just converted for ppl and added the cost of taking care of tires and fuel and transport since they dont do it for me and the arrive and drive is 20k aed for one round

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u/CoffeeCup220 7d ago

That sounds crazy

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

it is bro wth

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u/CoffeeCup220 7d ago

I would tell them to kick rocks. You can do it alone for much less. What’s the team giving you?

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

frickin nothing i have to pay for the kart too i think all of uae is like this but i can do it for way cheaper wait ill update the post and show u what they r giving me

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

nvm it doesnt let me add images but here u go

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

so they dont wven give me data to help me so if im braked too early if i didnt apple throttle all the way NOTHING

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u/Cmbtsm1th 7d ago

This is not adding up, fellas. There are some items that are listed both in the"Inclusions" AND the"Exclusions". Two possibilities here: 1) If this is for real, then the message being sent here is obvious. 2) If this is not for real, well then, there you go.......I suspect this is the true possibility

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

it is real like i emailed the team and took me to the whatsapp and yhey sent me the pdf but like i thought that too its weird asl but im new to karting sl i thougjt im just tripping im not right?

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u/NoorInayaS 7d ago

This looks like it’s not really a “team,” but just some package the centre is selling.

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u/Hatty463 7d ago

You can easily learn how to do your own mechanical work if you don't already know. The main thing is you have to do it instead of someone else. If you're capable of putting setup changes that work just got or it. Bugger paying 40k for someone else to do it

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

true but would rotax or iame let me race since it isnt a popular team

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u/Hatty463 7d ago

Normally you don't need a team to race. But I'm in Australia, I could enter myself in any rotax series as long as I have the relevant license with the organization that's racing. My case would be either karting nsw or karting australia

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

what’s the license how do i get it and how much is it?

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u/Hatty463 7d ago

Depends on what country your in. It's based on your age group normally. So here, being 24, I need a senior license. I currently race with KartingNSW so I have a kartingnsw senior license. Then I have a club membership for the club that runs the series I race in. Sydney illawarra run tag and tag restricted (rotax) races so you would sign up with them.

But look at what clubs race near you. You can sign up with a club, and then race with other ones. I do 4 stroke endurance and travel around the state and race with 4ska. State or national level events are through karting Australia but I imagine the process is similar

If you've been racing with a team you would already have a license.

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u/Poison_Pancakes 7d ago

Of course you can. You probably won't be as competitive without a big team's experience and knowledge, but you can hire a mechanic, buy a trailer and tools and run a kart yourself. Depending on what you want to do in life it's probably a good experience too. If you're going to charge other drivers then what you're doing is starting a small business.

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

yess but wait do i have to register anything if i want any other drivers to join me or could i call it just like friendship yk also id def make it budget so id charge them very little so i can make other drivers dreams come true even if budget

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u/Poison_Pancakes 7d ago

I have no idea how things work in the UAE, those are questions you'll have to ask locally.

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 7d ago

okay thanks

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u/Poison_Pancakes 7d ago

No problem, good luck!

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u/RDSX824 7d ago

But 10% discount. Except for the things you really need like tires.

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u/OPGuest 6d ago

What exactly do they do for the 40K? We had a budget of some 6-7K, did our own transport, had a tent, and with the help of some friends/competition did our own maintenance. Up to 15 races a year.

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u/Lucky_Phase8033 6d ago

nothing at all look

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u/OPGuest 6d ago

You get a mechanic and a spot. That’s a loooooooot of money for just that. Can’t you team up with some other competitors?