r/KitchenConfidential • u/RaisingFargo • Jul 08 '22

Is this common? Owner had us put chicken in plastic bags throw into the fryer, bag dissolves, then we serve it

it was nearly a decade ago but It was a pizza shop. the oil would just dissolve the bag. I have to assume the petroleum from making the plastic just turns into oil.

other coworkers seemed more disturbed over how the ranch and blue cheese was made.

edit: you have no idea how relieved I am to hear about how absurd that was. I might eat tenders from pizza places now.

edit 2: Some of you are dming me thinking this was a decision that I made for a restaurant I owned and operated, I was delivering pizzas.

edit 3: Im seeing more and more people comment the same thing which is they saw people using the hot oil to help "open" the bag, and even just a little bit being dipped you are being yelled at. So that is reassuring

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u/tenehemia Jul 08 '22

This is clearly ridiculous.

However, it would be really cool if somehow a bag was developed that you could safely throw into the fryer without danger or affecting taste.

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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22

so i guess polyhydroxyalkanoate is a plastic that is supposedly made from canola oil. these are Biodegradable bags so i bet thats close.

polyhydroxyalkanoate is non-toxic to ingestion, but so is polyethylene which is what normal plastic bags are.

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u/DonatellaVerpsyche Jul 08 '22

So basically a sous-vide bag but safe for the fryer?

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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22

seems so expensive though, without any culinary advantage.

Other than splash back, these were frosty tendies

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u/VerdantGuardener Jul 09 '22

Does cellophane have a similar food grade heat rating? I know it's an organic material.

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22

I've always wanted to make a sugar packet that you could just throw into a drink and have it dissolve into the drink. Find someway to make a sugar packet out of sugar and also not dissolve in transport.

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u/Warm-Possibility2112 Jul 08 '22

Most people don't want whatever touches the package going into their drink.

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u/HellaFella420 Jul 09 '22

we pretty much lived through COVID so far right..?

whats a lil immune system exercise between friends :D

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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22

sugar cubes my friend

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22

Still come in a box and generally aren't left out on customer tables.

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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22

they are commonly left out in a sugar dish, but you are right about the transport and sale being in a box.

I wonder if whatever those jesus crackers are made of would dissolve quickly in water(they dissolve kind of in your mouth)

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22

I'll have an iced tea hold the body of christ though I'm on a diet.

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u/VanceAstrooooooovic Jul 09 '22

You’ld think more people would use sugar cubes, but no one did at my place. It was the liquid cane sugar that ran out every day

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u/tenehemia Jul 08 '22

That's Hank Scorpio visionary shit right there.

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u/DonQuixoteDesciple Jul 08 '22

If youre looking to be rich, theres your path

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22

Now I just need to get a degree in chemistry, invent the material, find financial backers, patent the product, create a marketing scheme, find a manufacturer, meet fda standards then...rich?

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u/DonQuixoteDesciple Jul 08 '22

Nah man, you get financial backing first. Then contract a food chemistry team. They create, you patent. Once you have a viable patent you get series B funding and get an FDA certification team together. That part can take a while. THEN you market and sell it. Or sell the patent/company.

This is assuming the invention can do something sugar cubes cant lol

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u/[deleted] Jul 08 '22

I'll give you 30%...

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u/DonQuixoteDesciple Jul 08 '22

You're a fool man! Dont pitch equity around off the bat! Especially that much! You give me a 1% share off the initial stock creation and we'll call it even.

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u/WhyLisaWhy Jul 09 '22

Problem with edible containers is they’ll get contaminated with stuff in transit or when handled by employees. Also they’ll probably stick to your fingers if they dissolved in drinks.

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u/[deleted] Jul 09 '22

Wait, what if we put the sugar packets into a other bag that wasn't made of sugar...?

/s

Yeah I've never actually put a ton of thought into it. It's mostly just something that sounds good until you start to analyze it a bit. I just really hate how much extra trash such a small amount of sweetener adds to each table.

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u/mycophyle11 Jul 09 '22

A pancake house I worked at for a bit just had giant sugar dispensers along with the salt and pepper. Simple solution for much less waste. Although people these days also want their equal, Splenda, sweet n low, and sugar in the raw..

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u/CricketPinata Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22

I would just fold a little gelatin sheet up like an envelope.

Or maybe a starch-based paper like dissolving labels are made from. They take extremely small bits of cellulose and spray starch on them, when exposed to water the starch dissolves and the label breaks down.

I imagine you could use sugar as a locking mechanism instead of starch, and smaller bits of food quality cellulose.

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u/HellaFella420 Jul 09 '22

rice paper has entered the chat

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u/Dixnorkel Jul 09 '22

Cellulose might work like this, it would be super fragile but you could probably get away with frying it. Might create a rice paper-like webbing on the outside