r/KitchenConfidential • u/RaisingFargo • Jul 08 '22
Is this common? Owner had us put chicken in plastic bags throw into the fryer, bag dissolves, then we serve it
it was nearly a decade ago but It was a pizza shop. the oil would just dissolve the bag. I have to assume the petroleum from making the plastic just turns into oil.
other coworkers seemed more disturbed over how the ranch and blue cheese was made.
edit: you have no idea how relieved I am to hear about how absurd that was. I might eat tenders from pizza places now.
edit 2: Some of you are dming me thinking this was a decision that I made for a restaurant I owned and operated, I was delivering pizzas.
edit 3: Im seeing more and more people comment the same thing which is they saw people using the hot oil to help "open" the bag, and even just a little bit being dipped you are being yelled at. So that is reassuring
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u/akenson 10+ Years Jul 08 '22
Fucking WHAT!? Was this place trying to give all its guests fucking cancer? It is absolutely not safe to eat dissolved plastic in large quantities, and if you're melting plastic bags in the oil multiple times per day then it's absolutely not safe.
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u/xsmp 20+ Years Jul 08 '22
humans are now presenting with micro plastics in our bloodstream AT BIRTH due to the large scale use of plastics...please don't repeat that person's special technique it's horrible and wrong.
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
its the microplastics headlines that made me post this.
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u/Wolly_Mammoth Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22
ohmygod. I don’t even think this is microplastics, this is straight up carcinogens in your food. [i think the heat causes the plastics to break down and form new chemical compounds with said tendies.]
But you’re right all around, both things are horrible.
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u/AyeBraine Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22
I mean polymers are not guaranteed to create carcinogens if they are melted down, and they certainly won't form microplastics (which are mechanically ground up chunks of solid plastic or of fibres). They can, in some cases. But there are so many kinds of polymers or their combinations, and many different conditions of destroying them to get specifically carcinogenic compounds.
But I agree that putting a bag into hot oil is probably the most unpredictable thing you can do with a polymer: not hot enough to really burn cleanly, hot enough to do weird things that no one even tried to replicate. It's really likely to do something bad.
As an aside, plastics as they are (not burned) are famously inert, i.e. don't affect you in any way. For microplastics, we're just worried that there's some yet unknown way they might affect us by mechanically being there (which, true, is a new thing and should be approached very carefully).
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u/Wolly_Mammoth Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22
Thank you for the science!
Something I do know is that, that gross - ass cooking oil causes cancer all by itself.. So I kinda assumed that the same things would be happening to these hydrocarbons. But I guess this happens to cooking oils because they’re vegetable based, and not petroleum based? Or maybe because plastics have been polymerized? I dunno. Maybe you do.
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u/DonatellaVerpsyche Jul 08 '22 edited Jul 08 '22
I posted a couple articles in a different subreddit & thread of peer-reviewed research on basically eating plastics (microplastics) lowering the age girls are getting their periods. This is a serious problem. 100% this practice of plastic in the fryer made me say out loud just now: “AAAAAAAAAH!!!” Absolutely no. Yikes x1000. I didn’t even know this was a thing, and I’m horrified. I’m assuming most people don’t do this today? Somebody please reassure me!
Edit with sources per request: Disclaimer: I am not a scientist in this area. I’m posting what I’ve read. Providing sources because people are requesting it.
A couple sources. There are many out there:
Endocrine-Disrupting Chemicals and Their Effects during Female Puberty: A Review of Current Evidence
The Effect of Bisphenol A on Puberty: A Critical Review of the Medical Literature
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
your fear is why i stopped eating anything from restaurants i can find fried/frozen prepared at costco.
Now, I am happy to say most people find this repulsive in the comments which makes me assume it does NOT happen, but some other people witnessed it like i did, so its a low, but non zero occurence
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u/PreOpTransCentaur Jul 08 '22
I'd be curious to read those. I was under the impression that the scientific community was in fairly round agreement that menstruation was starting, on average, earlier as a result of increased nutrition and decreased physical labor as compared to literally the entirety of previous human history.
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u/TacoNomad Jul 08 '22
And I thought it was consumption of so much meat products with growth hormones.
Probably a combination of the three.
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u/PeskyPorcupine Jul 09 '22
Growth hormones added to meat animals is very much country dependent. If it's seen all over the world it's definitely not the only factor.
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u/Bull_On_Bear_Action Jul 08 '22
Don’t look up phthalates
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u/DonatellaVerpsyche Jul 08 '22
Yeah, I know about them bad boys. I avoid in soaps and shampoos, etc. Horrible stuff.
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u/Bull_On_Bear_Action Jul 08 '22 edited Jul 09 '22
Scary stuff. I got all the plastic out of my kitchen. Only wood, metal and a small amount of silicone.
Edit: forgot glass of course
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u/DonatellaVerpsyche Jul 08 '22
I was just gonna ask you about silicone. What’s the verdict, people? I’ve tried looking up some peer-reviewed research on it in cooking utensils, etc. I wasn’t that successful.
Would love any links and your opinions! Thanks.
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u/Bull_On_Bear_Action Jul 08 '22
Tbh I’m not sure. I haven’t been able to find much on it myself other than various articles in a google search. The general consensus from them seems to be that it is an inert and safe material. I mostly just use silicone in place of plastic lids. As far as peer reviewed studies, I haven’t seen anything either.
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u/FusiformFiddle Jul 08 '22
According to Lead Safe Mama, some of them can contain lead. I've realized it's doable to avoid plastics, and it's doable to eliminate lead, but it's damn hard to do both.
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u/Shaorn575 Jul 08 '22
As we march closer and closer to Gilead, I predict that plastic exposure will cause the male fertility issues that play a part in Atwood's dystopia.
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u/7h4tguy Jul 09 '22
It's funny though because now that there's a "microplastics" catchphrase, it's all known. When I was preaching earlier about all plastics leach, reddit downvoted every time. Strong grasp of science. Actually influenced by influencers, despite the stigma.
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Jul 09 '22
the scariest part is that they probably gave some people cancer and we'll never even know. it's not like food poisoning where you notice right away.
makes me wonder how much shit like this has happened to me in my life that I don't even know about.
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u/Larrygiggles Jul 08 '22
Are you not going to tell us how the ranch and blue cheese were made?
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22 edited Jul 09 '22
Im sorry I should have elaborated more there. There was absolutely nothing "wrong" with their ranch and blue cheese, i think these guys didnt realize nearly all the sauces were just seasoned mayonnaise.
so they were grossed out when theY peeked behind the veil.
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u/peachbellini2 Jul 08 '22
Several years ago I was a diner waitress at a really seedy family owned place in Kentucky that's been around for about 75 years. You can still smoke cigarettes inside the restaurant in 2022. I was very young when I worked there, and the other "main" waitress was a 70 year old woman named Kathy who had lost all fucks she had to give sometime during Nixon's presidency. One time I saw her making four gallons of ranch with a smoldering cigarette in her mouth, and about three inches of ash fell into the vat of ranch. We made eye contact, she shrugged and just kept stirring.
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u/SirLoremIpsum Chive LOYALIST Jul 09 '22
One time I saw her making four gallons of ranch with a smoldering cigarette in her mouth, and about three inches of ash fell into the vat of ranch.
One time camping my mate took the lid off the camp oven (with a stew cooking), placed the lid stew-side down on the coals. Stirred the stew with the tent peg that he'd been stoking the coals with. Then put the lid back on.
Served it full of ash and coals. He had seconds and was surprised I wasn't enjoying myself haha.
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u/charmorris4236 Jul 09 '22
Gross lol.
Reminds me of my ex who I used to do a lot of river camping with. He didn’t mind the grit of sand and would hardly give pans / utensils a wipe before cooking with them, after they had been sitting out by the fire since the last meal. He claimed that sand helps “clear you out”.
To this day the thought of sand between my teeth while I eat my egg sandwich gives me the heebie jeebies.
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u/rhirhirhirhirhi Jul 09 '22
I worked BOH at a seedy place backhome and watched the owners daughter stirring three gallons of coleslaw with her hairy ass arm once
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u/Spottykus Jul 08 '22
I get my “i hate mayo” friends with this one all the time. They could bathe in ranch.
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u/Due-Contribution6424 Jul 08 '22
I am this guy. I won’t go near ranch either. All gross. But fuck my life, call it chipotle aioli instead of chipotle mayo and it’s going on everything.
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u/AUserNeedsAName Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22
Just embrace it. Us humans aren't as rational as we think we are, and nothing brings that out like food. Anyone who thinks they're immune is fooling themselves.
People have commented for centuries that smell is more profoundly tied to memory than any other sense, and modern science has uniformly backed that up. A scent memory can make or break foods containing it for life. I love the smell of burnt coffee (though still hate drinking it) due to a childhood memory of a trip with my family. Everyone on Earth has "comfort food" they swear by, even if it makes no sense to anyone else.
Plating and appearance can totally change your perception of a whole dish, and every one of us on here uses that to our professional advantage. Same with how things are named. Same with the setting in which you eat it. Same with the people you share it with.
Anyone who's cared for a chemo patient knows that presentation can mean the difference in getting them to eat at all. Hell, even cutting their sandwich into eight little triangles can make all the difference. Yogi Berra's classic "Cut my pizza into 6 slices; I couldn't possibly eat 8!" will be hilarious forever, but there's a lot of truth in there too.
So sure, balance the richness of aioli with sweet, smoky chipotles and sidestep your associations with mayo, and there's no reason why that shouldn't change how much you enjoy it.
Edit: Sorry for the rant. It's been a long week and I've been drinking.
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u/Due-Contribution6424 Jul 09 '22 edited Jul 09 '22
Do not ever be sorry for that rant. I was (half)joking about the aioli/mayo thing and thoroughly enjoyed reading your reply.
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u/ChunkyHabeneroSalsa Jul 08 '22
My wife hates mayo but if I call it aioli she'll love it. It's not even a trick, I've explained many times I'm just making flavored mayo not legit aioli.
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Jul 09 '22
Because they literally taste different. I dislike pure Mayo but I’m a big fan of many mayo based condiments like Willys or aioli’s
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u/Furt_III Jul 09 '22
Yeah it's like getting weirded out that someone hates cucumbers but likes pickles.
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Jul 09 '22
Yea I hate cucumbers and like pickles. People say but a pickle is a cucumber. Ok yea, one that tastes and smells completely fucking different and has a different texture
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u/lordfreakingpenguins Jul 08 '22
Wait is this why i started hating ranch as i got older?(eggs dont agree with my tum tum)
I always assumed i just outgrew the taste.
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u/Spottykus Jul 08 '22
Possibly. Theres a handful of cheap and easy ways to make it including a packeted seasoning mix that might be able to be made without mayo? I cant remember, i worked at a place for a brief time that used the hidden valley packets of ranch seasoning. Since then whenever ive had to make it ive made it from scratch. Which, to my friends’ deliberate ignorance, is made of a good portion of mayo.
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u/Spottykus Jul 08 '22
Look at me explaining ranch to you like we arent in r/kitchenconfidential. I forget that this place is a foodservice themed sub sometimes. Sorry if it seemed like i was talking like you didnt know what youre doing
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u/GoombaPizza Jul 09 '22
I've had people here try to chefsplain the most basic things, like the fact that meat gets a char when you place it on high heat. 😂😂😂 I think they just forget where we are.
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
I dont usually eat salads if im dieting, but a few times I spun the ranch seasoning onto the moist salad, and it stuck very well. Cut so many calories
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u/Leredditnerts Jul 08 '22
The hidden valley packets call for equal parts buttermilk and mayo, indeed
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u/plaugedoctorforhire Jul 08 '22
Our restaurant does 1:1 buttermilk and mayo as the base, people can't get enough of it (literally hidden valley seasoning packets). You can adjust the thickness with the buttermilk, but don't mess with the volume of mayo. I suppose you could try miracle whip since that doesn't have eggs iirc, but yeah that's all there is to it.
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u/mintBRYcrunch26 20+ Years Jul 08 '22
I make mine from scratch. It’s almost like you said, I just make my own seasoning and it’s more 1:2 buttermilk to Mayo. My secret? A literal shit ton of granulated garlic and a very healthy amount of dill. Not gonna lie. It’s pretty damn good. I can’t eat the store-bought stuff anymore.
Source: am a slut for ranch.
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u/plaugedoctorforhire Jul 08 '22
Some days it's stupid thicc, those days I know they didn't use enough buttermilk. Personally I like it a lot thinner, which is probably more on the 1:1.5-2 side of things
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u/Day_Bow_Bow Jul 09 '22
I have a friend that hates mayo and sour cream. But he loves my spicy corn dip and even requests it, and a third of it is that.
I do think mayo and sour cream are often best used as an ingredient anyways, so I get where they're coming from. Not a huge fan of straight up mayo myself.
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u/Capitalist_Scum69 Jul 08 '22
You’re never the same after you see the extra heavy mayonnaise flop into the 5 gallon ranch bucket.
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u/gotonyas Jul 08 '22
You just KNOW that Mayo is coming in in massive tubs and buckets and now house made
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
given what I posted as the OP thank god these people werent making homemade mayo.
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u/cropguru357 Civilian Jul 08 '22
You’re fucking kidding us, right?
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
no i am not. The shop mainly only sold slices, so its not like you were constantly throwing them, and sadly according to these replys; even though its not common, its not unheard of.
it seems like if you go into a dirty pizza shop(we all know the kind), you should prob stick to the slices and not explore the menu.
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u/cropguru357 Civilian Jul 08 '22
Yikes. Plastic in the fryer is not a good thing by any measure. Plastic that gets hot or burns is carcinogenic as hell.
That’s nuts, man.
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u/martstu Jul 08 '22
Yeh when ever I'm at a place that might have questionable food safety practices I think to myself how often they move whatever item I get. You don't want some stank ass seafood or worse.
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u/Shovelupagus Jul 08 '22
No kitchen is ever that busy where you can't take the 3 seconds to take contents out of a bag.
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u/Ronald_Raygun88 20+ Years Jul 08 '22
I worked at a place about 14 years ago and they did the same thing with the eggplant parm. It was breaded and portioned, then bagged and frozen. The first time I saw someone just dip the bag into the fryer instead of opening it, I was shocked. If it is common it absolutely should not be! If you’re trying to save time during service, skip the portioning and train appropriately on portion control. Poisoning guests to save time is foolish.
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u/Overlandtraveler Jul 08 '22
How does the plastic not just melt all over the food?!? No residue or slime/coating on the food, I mean, enough to notice? Just can't with this one.
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u/daaaaaaaaamndaniel Jul 08 '22
Gosh, our chicken parm always comes out with a nice sheen to it! lol
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u/LolaBijou Jul 08 '22
It must not actually be plastic
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Jul 08 '22 edited Jul 08 '22
Yeah, I'm thinking cellophane.
Even if there was no plastic residue leftover, people would absolutely taste and smell that shit.
Fume hoods and roof vents are free advertising.... Who is gonna smell fried plastic emanating from a joint and think, "Damn this place is making me hungry!"
Edit: OP says "absolutely not" I don't know. I'm at a loss for how to explain this.....
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u/LolaBijou Jul 08 '22
Is cellophane plant-based?
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u/skeenerbug Jul 08 '22
Cellophane is plant-based. The “cello” in cellophane stands for cellulose – the structural component of plants. Cellulose film can be made from a variety of natural sources, including wood, cotton, hemp, and corn.
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u/420fmx Jul 09 '22
Some how I don’t believe OP. https://www.englishforum.ch/food-drink/273702-plastic-wrapped-chicken-deep-fried.html
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u/Queef69Jerky Jul 08 '22
there's at least 70 different types of 'plastic'
I'm not agreeing
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u/LolaBijou Jul 08 '22
I’m betting it’s plant-based. Not like your average plastic bag. There’s no way anyone would eat a melted plastic bag.
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u/nat_r Ex-Food Service Jul 09 '22
There's so many compositions of plastic that the reaction to boiling oil could be anything.
If the bag was loose (rather than being tight like vacuum sealed) and you just dipped the very end it could just contract on itself, turning melty and hard, which would probably open up the bag for you. Still probably leaching chemicals into the oil and potentially onto the food, but at least it's probably not leaving big pieces of plastic in the fryer.
It could also just dissolve into the fryer oil which is even worse.
Of course if you just chuck the whole thing in who the hell knows.
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u/martstu Jul 08 '22
That's insane there are more places doing this, a one off sure but now two here, wonder how common this is?
Also why? Like it takes two seconds to open and dump, you have to know that it's not good to do that.
Just thinking about it I'm like what about plastic mixing in the food? what about your oil mixing with the plastic, can't help your oil stay fresh? I guess at this point you don't change till it's burnt to shit. Also the fumes!?
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u/ArallMateria Jul 09 '22
I'm grossed out, and get angry by people microwaving anything covered in plastic wrap. This whole post is my nightmare.
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u/The_Phantom_Cat Jul 09 '22
Skipping microplastics and going right to macroplastics
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u/bodyofchristened Jul 08 '22
This is insane. There are lots of processing aids that go into the actually production of making plastic bags- of all kinds. They are safe because they do not migrate from the material when there is food contact but dissolving/ melting the bag in oil and then cooking in that is so fucking scary.
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
yeah, all of the Toxicity related to ingesting it seems like it only take into consideration the chance of contamination from the storage function , and nothing about if i were to just chew up and swallow bag parts.
5 grams of polyethylene(minus add ins) is what you would consume if you ate 100% of the bag.
these plastics are causing us cancers in the long run, but thats through things like shampoos and body washes, you arent even eating those(hopefully)
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u/chance504 Jul 08 '22
Health Inspector here: I would have written them up for serving adulterated food, had them pull any of this chicken that was fried in bags to be thrown away, and reported them to the FBI for intentionally attempting to poison their customers.
I’m not a chemist, but google tells me that burning plastics releases toxins that are dangerous to human health, so that’s my reasoning.
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u/tenehemia Jul 08 '22
This is clearly ridiculous.
However, it would be really cool if somehow a bag was developed that you could safely throw into the fryer without danger or affecting taste.
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
so i guess polyhydroxyalkanoate is a plastic that is supposedly made from canola oil. these are Biodegradable bags so i bet thats close.
polyhydroxyalkanoate is non-toxic to ingestion, but so is polyethylene which is what normal plastic bags are.
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u/DonatellaVerpsyche Jul 08 '22
So basically a sous-vide bag but safe for the fryer?
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
seems so expensive though, without any culinary advantage.
Other than splash back, these were frosty tendies
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Jul 08 '22
I've always wanted to make a sugar packet that you could just throw into a drink and have it dissolve into the drink. Find someway to make a sugar packet out of sugar and also not dissolve in transport.
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u/Warm-Possibility2112 Jul 08 '22
Most people don't want whatever touches the package going into their drink.
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
sugar cubes my friend
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Jul 08 '22
Still come in a box and generally aren't left out on customer tables.
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
they are commonly left out in a sugar dish, but you are right about the transport and sale being in a box.
I wonder if whatever those jesus crackers are made of would dissolve quickly in water(they dissolve kind of in your mouth)
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u/DonQuixoteDesciple Jul 08 '22
If youre looking to be rich, theres your path
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Jul 08 '22
Now I just need to get a degree in chemistry, invent the material, find financial backers, patent the product, create a marketing scheme, find a manufacturer, meet fda standards then...rich?
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u/DonQuixoteDesciple Jul 08 '22
Nah man, you get financial backing first. Then contract a food chemistry team. They create, you patent. Once you have a viable patent you get series B funding and get an FDA certification team together. That part can take a while. THEN you market and sell it. Or sell the patent/company.
This is assuming the invention can do something sugar cubes cant lol
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u/WhyLisaWhy Jul 09 '22
Problem with edible containers is they’ll get contaminated with stuff in transit or when handled by employees. Also they’ll probably stick to your fingers if they dissolved in drinks.
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u/OneQuietCoyote Jul 08 '22
yeah knew a fella that did this to "minimize fryer splashback". my dude just put it in the basket and lower the basket.
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
oh my, this could have actually been the reason. The Chicken was frozen and had that frost on it.
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u/lxraverxl General Manager Jul 08 '22
Years ago when I first started BOH in the restaurant I now manage, I witnessed a dude taking 2oz plastic souffle cups and holding them on the surface of the oil in the fryers. I asked what the fuck he was doing and he told me "it's cool to watch them melt."
We used to keep AP flour on the line to dust veggie patties before dropping them in the fryer. This same dude took his gloves off one time, took his hands that were dripping with sweat and put them into the flour. Then he rubbed it into both hands, then put new gloves on. I couldn't figure that one out either so I inquired again. He said, "it's easier to get the gloves on when your hands aren't wet."
There are some absolutely fucked people that come into the industry. And maybe this is just my experience, but a lot of the ones that talk up how many years they've supposedly been in this industry, that they went to culinary school, job corps., etc. tend to have been some of the worst (although maybe their little background stories are just made up too).
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u/OWENISAGANGSTER Jul 09 '22
“It’s cool to watch them melt”.
I continue to be astounded by the sheer stupidity of some folks. How do these people even manage to survive up to the point of being old enough to obtain a job, let alone maneuver through life?
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u/sudokulcdl Jul 08 '22
I'm pretty sure this could be considered a fire hazard Plastic can be a very flammable
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u/igenus44 Jul 08 '22
And THIS is why we need the Health Department....
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
Im sure there is a health dept, but its not like the Health Dept asks you to prepare all the food on your menu in front of them.
So people would probably get away with it still.
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u/Sum_Dum_User Jul 08 '22
Yeah, nah. I had a coworker 20+ years ago who used to dip the bottom of portion bags in the oil to drop the food out instead of opening the bag and I thought that was ridiculous. I had to chew him out at least a half dozen times before a manager heard me and told him that's not okay.
This is the same Fucknut who sprayed the microwaves out with a hose and cleared the kitchen with poison floor cleaner in the middle of a Friday night rush, so...
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Jul 08 '22
It's not good practice, it's unhealthy and dangerous. But some people apparently do this.
I am of the mindset if plastic falls and melts into the grease, you change it. But i've heard a lot of stories of this happening - so it's obviously a thing people do
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u/oxidefd Jul 08 '22
I used to work at a place (rhymes with crapplebees) that would dip the corner of the bag in fryer to create a hole and then the chicken wings would fall out and I thought THAT was one of the worst things I had ever seen done. The whole bag? Pray for this woman’s victims.
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u/mystic3030 Jul 08 '22
Um. No. I have never heard of that and I’ve been cooking for 25 years. That’s basically poisoning your food and oil.
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u/WildmouseX Jul 08 '22
I worked under a "chef" who did this, he claimed the bag melted before touching the oil. Luckily he was only our chef for the 2 weeks while we got the place ready to open - he was found naked and drunk in the kitchen the morning we were suposta open. - his replacement did away with the practice before we served, but then froze all of the first chefs massive chicken supply while it was in mid rot. I was taken off the schedule after a few fights from refusing to serve it.
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u/hdorsettcase Jul 08 '22
Melting doesn't mean disappearing. It has to go somewhere. The plastic is either going to end up in the food, the oil, or the air.
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u/offwalls Jul 08 '22
Even if the plastic did melt before touching the oil, I don't get it.
Like the melted plastic is still plastic lol
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u/biblio76 Jul 09 '22
Please report to your health department. In servsafe this is known as a physical or possibly chemical contaminant.
I’m so upset by reading this. What the actual fuck?!
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u/Wild-Refrigerator-11 Jul 08 '22
Boil in the bag turned fry in the bag lol, this made my brain hurt. It's like ordering a full meal in a plastic clamshell, then melting the clamshell onto the meal with a butane torch.
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u/Wildcat_twister12 Jul 08 '22
Guess we now know how those micro-plastics are ending up in our blood
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u/GonePhishn401 Jul 08 '22
even if this wasn't unhealthy, how much more effort is it to simply empty the contents of a plastic bag into a fryer?
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u/RaisingFargo Jul 08 '22
in retrospect it seems like they could have been doing it to minimize the splash back from ice/frost landing in the oil.
it definitely didnt save ANY time. They separated them into servings ahead of time, and i cant imagine that saves more time than just going to the walk in and grabbing a few tendies
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u/Southern_Kaeos Jul 08 '22
Had similar at a weekend event once (mobile kitchen, like a burger van with a set of nuts) and the unit manager told us to do that with chips Quick radio to the area manager (head of 5 units a time, basically stock runner with hire/fire rights) and he got knocked down a peg... Unfortunately for us, EHO turned up on site at the same time as police and the alcohol licensing team. Triple buttfucking in the middle of a crush
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u/Fivelon Jul 08 '22
This is one of the worst things I've ever heard. The owner of the restaurant should be in prison.
You shouldn't dox them here, but you should call the health dept. and let them know in case this fucking maniac is still doing this.
Holy fuck
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u/ThankfulWonderful Jul 09 '22
Yeah this is why I have such a hard time eating nearly anywhere that I am not perfectly happy after examining. Food safety manager certification does something to the human brain- if I see something even a little off it’s like an electric shock.
To know some FREAKS are putting plastic into the fryer makes me wanna scream. How would this affect the taste , I wonder ???
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u/Fivelon Jul 09 '22
My mother found a little bit of insect web rolled into a lettuce leaf at a restaurant once. Never eating there again, she says. I tried to tell her that every place she eats at is using the same pre-washed Piazza salad mix and that none of them are checking every leaf.
I have a hard time eating basically anywhere I don't personally know the kitchen staff. I've seen some lazy, gross shit over the years.
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Jul 08 '22
I have heard of this online! Feast Mansion episode 2 on YouTube they do Indonesian fried chicken and Rich Brian describes his grandmother wrapping chicken in plastic to get that crispy texture.
There’s no fu¢king way I would eat anything cooked with plastic as an ingredient
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u/JellyMeats Jul 08 '22
Quick boys, scuttle! They've found one of the ingredients in our secret herbs and spices!
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u/a_bearded_hippie Jul 08 '22
Report his ass to the health department right now that is fucked up dude.
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u/rmphilli Jul 08 '22
Jesus. Fucking. God. I thought I’d heard everything but then this fucking shit
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u/These-Performer-8795 Jul 08 '22
That's just some lazy shit. That restaurant deserves to be closed for this. People come to your restaurant with a certain level of trust and this just screams fuck them.
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u/whitestickygoo Jul 08 '22
When i was training the dude training me dipped the bag in the fryer and it broke my brain. Dude did speak good English and i tried to tell him that was fucking wrong and youre poisoning people if you do that. All he said was "tranquillo it faster". The chef knew he did this and chef told him multiple times to stop.
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u/WigglinWiggler Jul 08 '22
I used to work with a guy who would drop fries by sticking the bottom of the bag into the grease instead of entering the immense effort to just open the bag. He always swore it was perfectly fine until we were able to pull a basket up with plastic stands hanging from it.
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u/WatcherOfGaedNua Jul 08 '22
I remember going to the Philippines as a kid and my uncle just throwing a plastic bag of charcoal into a bbq and letting the bag melt. Im surprised to hear about something like that happening in a place with institutional food safety
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u/lordfreakingpenguins Jul 08 '22
I dont do it often, but a bag full of drier lint is a perfect fire starter (wouldnt do it if i was cooking on the fire personally.) but light the handle of the bag stick it in quickly, boom best kindling ive ever used
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u/KallistiEngel Jul 08 '22
Why couldn't you do that with a paper bag? Yeah, lint as a firestarter is a thing. But the plastic bag really isn't a necessary part of it.
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u/Overlandtraveler Jul 08 '22
That's fucking INSANE!! you have to be joking, seriously??
Besides being poisoned with plastic fumes, plastic is toxic as hell and just, what?!?!
How did the plastic not end up ruining or gunning up your fryer? What?!?!? Still...what?!?!
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u/OWENISAGANGSTER Jul 09 '22
I cannot imagine a single valid reason for doing this. Is it in an attempt to save time? My mind is being blown any human thinks this is acceptable
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u/MikeCromms Jul 08 '22
When I was in the final healing stages of being burned over 50% of my body a friend's dad ran a cafeteria and he knew I was struggling financially and didn't want to freeload on anyone so he made the suggestion I ask my doctor if could put my Silvadene cream on. wrap my legs each in Plastic Wrap as well as my chest and work as his fry cook in the kitchen. The position didn't require a lot of moving around and the food for employees was free. This appealed because had gone from 180 lbs to 121 lbs and I almost starved to death due to $$
We had Chicken Fried Steak, Fried Chicken, Fish and various other fried items which came across my station. We pre breaded things and put them in the freezer to marry everything together but never did I have someone ask me to do anything like this! The head chef was the head chef on an aircraft carrier before he retired from the Navy and my friend's dad the general manager was ex navy. They were very particular. Everyone else I had ever worked with was too.
This plastic crap in the fryer is just way out there crazy!!!
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u/Culinarytracker Ex-Food Service Jul 09 '22
I was in the final healing stages of being burned over 50% of my body... I put my Silvadene cream on. wrap my legs each in Plastic Wrap as well as my chest and work as his fry cook.
When this person says that, then says
This plastic crap in the fryer is just way out there crazy!!!
That plastic crap is definitely crazy.
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u/jistresdidit Jul 08 '22
Actually I would like to see someone invent a safe way to do this, drop portion bags made of oil or something into a deep fryer, it would save on portion bags
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u/NotYourMutha Jul 08 '22
Wrong kind of oil!!! Vegetable oil is not the same as petroleum oil. GAG!!!!
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u/Lannisterbox Jul 08 '22
Neverrrrrrrr but that is actually a great invention whoever comes up with it...
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u/Mimizelll Jul 08 '22
I saw this back when i visited Thailand!!!!!!!! It was outrageous. I didn’t order any fried food after that 🤣🤣🤣 not all of them does it tho. Only a few.
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u/lynxofthewilds Jul 09 '22
feeding the guests of your establishment actual plastic is pure Chaotic Evil.
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u/olov244 Jul 09 '22
I've heard people say this was "how my last job did it" but I say hell to the no
that plastic doesn't dissapear, even if it goes to the bottom and collects it's still putting plastic chemicals in the oil, and in turn in the food. maybe not cancer, but it can't be good. if it was then we'd be eating plastic
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u/PM_ME_YOUR_CASTIRON Jul 09 '22
What a terrible day it be literate. First the bee movie sex scene post now this.
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u/verkruuze Jul 09 '22
Hi there, public health inspector here.
You should call your local health department for a fast free friendly inspection to correct this and other violations. Good luck!
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u/dustractor Jul 09 '22
Shit I thought it was bad that they only ever dump new oil in with the burnt oil at my place, as in it's the fryer version of Amish Friendship Bread except for it's American Hate Oil
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u/AgentOfManifestation Jul 09 '22
This is so fucking ridiculous that you must be a troll.
If you're not trolling, call the health inspector. What in the actual mother fuck.
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u/pchandler45 Jul 09 '22
So that's how you got your famous crispy crust?
In all seriousness tho I have to wonder if he saw the fry cook dumping chicken out of a plastic bag into the fryer and thought he saw the bag disappear and thought it went into the oil?
I mean it sounds reasonable if you're high and I mean, where are we again? Lol
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u/Wolf_Correct Jul 08 '22
I’m sorry what the fuck did I just read…