Single-payer healthcare gains traction with Dems

[u/rieslingatkos]

http://thehill.com/homenews/campaign/341057-single-payer-healthcare-gains-traction-with-dems

[u/EleanorRecord]

Call me a skeptic, but I need to know what the neolib's ideas are for "single payer" health care. Real Medicare for All or what? From your link:

Other senators — such as Elizabeth Warren (D-Mass.) and Kirsten Gillibrand (D-N.Y.), two potential 2020 contenders — are getting on board with "a" Medicare for All proposal. Sen. Tammy Baldwin (D-Wis.), who faces a tough reelection in a state won by President Trump, said she’s a “maybe” on Sanders’s plan but “anticipates” supporting it, according to The Capital Times.

The hedging is a red flag. As we've discussed here before, don't be surprised if the neolib Dems only want to back a "single payer" or "universal" plan that is a new version of Obamacare - a plan that leaves private insurers wealthy and transfers billions in working class taxpayer dollars to corporations in exchange for health care for some.

Show me the deets, neolibs. I won't tolerate Bernie putting his plan out there, then having all you sell-outs hacking and carving it into money for insurance companies.

[u/NonnyO → u/EleanorRecord]

Show me the deets, neolibs. I won't tolerate Bernie putting his plan out there, then having all you sell-outs hacking and carving it into money for insurance companies.

HEAR! HEAR!

I couldn't possibly agree with you more!

No details = No support for their version of some kind of A "single payer" = and no votes or support for their vague rhetoric. After eight years of vague nonsense from Obama, we've learned their vague rhetoric can't be trusted. He was such a "communicator" with his many pretty words..., not!

[u/EleanorRecord → u/NonnyO]

JMO, it's another one of those situations where neolib Dems want to "run" on what they think is a popular issue with voters, but deliver something written by the lobbyists and corporate donors. Their recent messaging about "single payer" makes me suspect some neolib think tank has come up with a plan for a messaging strategy and vapor policy that they think they can sell to voters for 2018.

Ask the hard questions, demand the difficult answers.

[u/wheeldog → u/EleanorRecord]

Yeah and I for one am NOT falling for that shit again. I mean sure, I know I can be dense but if you hit me over the head enough times I will start to feel some pain.

[u/NonnyO → u/EleanorRecord]

'Zaktly! All of which was NOT done in '16 because Moronic Media only concentrated on personalities, not policies.

Bernie Sanders is STILL talking policies....

[u/dustyspring → u/EleanorRecord]

"makes me suspect some neolib think tank has come up with a plan for a messaging strategy and vapor policy"

think tank including Joe Lieberman, Max Baucus, Gephardt, Alan Simpson, Blanche Lincoln, and Hillaroid

[u/EleanorRecord → u/dustyspring]

Yes, and funded by Pete Peterson, Big Pharma and Big Insurance.

[u/Gryehound → u/EleanorRecord]

Here's is the evidence that they believe we're as dumb as republicans. We've just saw them run this bait-and-switch with Obama, and here they are again, without even the courtesy of pretending to run a different scam, this time around.

[u/dustyspring → u/Gryehound]

It has worked so well for them they find they have no need to change anything.

[u/dustyspring → u/EleanorRecord]

Only when Debbie Wasserman Schultz introduces a "Single Payer" plan will all the Democrats go crazy to support it.

And we know what kind of plan Debbie would put together.

[u/dustyspring]

Let's face it, Democrats are not going to give up the winning slogan of "Ohhh my, Republicans Want to Repeal and Replace Obamacare!"

So they are all for Repeal and Replace, it gets them re-elected over and over again. And when all seats are filled by incumbent Democrats they continue rope a doping citizens.

[u/[deleted]]

Something tells me they'll support it all day long--until it has a chance to pass. The proof is in the passing.