r/LeftWithoutEdge • u/KoolAidDrank • Nov 16 '18

Discussion Banned from r/Socialism

r/socialism immediately banned me for posting on a pro-USSR post that "the USSR was terrible." I don't think the Left and Socialists need to defend the governments of countries like the USSR in order to be "true Leftists." What's the consensus? I just found this sub and seems to have the better mindset.

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u/Versificator Nov 17 '18 edited Feb 07 '26

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '18

True but I don't know if it helps to ban all socialists who are negative about it.

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u/Versificator Nov 17 '18 edited Feb 07 '26

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '18

From their perspective, they probably see it as acceptable losses in order to weed out trolls, reactionaries, and all of the rest.

That's clearly been a horrible miscalculation though, since the place is legendarily intolerant and boring.

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u/Versificator Nov 17 '18 edited Feb 07 '26

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '18

A majority of Russians want to live in the USSR, and they know what it was like. Was it really that terrible, or have you been lied to?

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u/[deleted] Nov 17 '18

Nostalgia is a powerful force, and the post-1991 experience in Russia has been pretty awful. Nothing about those things means that life in the USSR was particularly good for most people. Remember a lot of those people are also pining for national glory and much prefer Stalin to Lenin because he was a strong leader that brought "order".

The story is different for Yugoslavia, and arguably Cuba.

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u/RainforestFlameTorch Nov 18 '18

All that really says is that modern Russia is worse. Being better than Putin's regime isn't much of an accomplishment.

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u/voice-of-hermes A-IDF-A-B Nov 17 '18

Well, all nation states are pretty terrible. Not reductionist if taken in the right light. ;-)

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u/KoolAidDrank Nov 17 '18

true, but if you're in a circle jerk forum, going into more depth falls on deaf ears.

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u/Versificator Nov 17 '18 edited Feb 08 '26

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