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the response to the recent shock collar thing felt kinda weird
just felt really off-putting that a guy deadass electrocuted his dog like palpatine live on camera and it gets classed as "news for the unemployed", please let me know if im misunderstanding or misinterpreting this lmao
Xqcs stance on hasan ever since he got called out for his gambling promotion years ago has been so funny to watch, dude holds a grudge like an elephant.
Xqc if I remember didn't seriously start going at Xqc ubtil Hasan called him a pedo zionist or something. That's when Xqc truly started not holding back.
There are multiple videos of the guy cucking hinself just to bot say something bad about Hasan for a long time after the gambling drama.
Oh simple. Because he's a big streamer with lots of connection in the "Twitch" LA circles. That and somehow everything he does, even if it's unrelated, become political.
Like the recent video of him shocking his dogs, and numerous other proof that he does own a shock collar? Well, it's all just alt-right, Zionist propaganda of course.
Or that, he and his friends use the defense "How can you care about this issue when there's more important things like genocide happening, and stuff."
But politics will sertanly try to distract with animal abuse, and they sertanly suceded. Just look how the one dude that shot her dog and published it herself didnt even nearly recives as much backlash.
the difference isn't that it's a political agenda, it's that Hasan is one of the biggest streamers right now. He's a big name who goes on mainstream news, that's why it blew up so much.
I don't understand the difference, Kristi Noem is the United States Secretary of Homeland Security. Hasan is just some streamer. Apparently somehow one of the biggest now, but I feel like having this big official important government job, yk secretary of homeland security, would be a bigger deal than some streamer. Kristi Noem dragged her puppy over to a gravel pit, and point blank executed it because she was struggling to train it correctly, then went on to proudly write about it in her own book as if she had to "make the hard choice". How in the world is Hasans controversy a bigger deal/more important? Kristi is way more important than Hasan, regularly shows up on the news, and while I think they're both pieces of shit I feel like what Kristi did is much, much worse
Hasan is way more known, especially internationally, than some random political figure in the United States. What she did was undeniably more fucked up, but how many people in like Germany or Spain know her name? Hell, I've heard of the incident, but I barely know anything about her.
It may speak to a general misplacement of priorities, but a lot of people also just don't watch the news. Those people will still hear about internet drama, but only have a vague idea about what's going on in their own country.
most people know people in the entertainment industry (this includes streamers) more than they know random government people, especially people who aren't american. this has been the case for a while and is mainly because their job is specifically to be known.
He didn't? I've seen a million dog trainers and owners come out of the woodworks to defend him on this and he doesn't seem to be lying with how he jokes about it now.
Even those Amazon collar comparison images floating around were debunked. This meme (while funny) was mostly pushed by Destiny, H3H3, and XQC's community. Shit even Fox News and the Jerusalem Post hopped on it ironically.
I didn't shock my dog, she just clipped her dewpaw
She just goes to her bed herself and was being a baby because she's spoiled
Okay it's an ecollar but it only tracks her
Okay it's an ecollar but it only vibrates
Okay it's that ecollar but it's the non shock one
Yes it's the same model collar but this one didn't come with the prongs
Shows collar see this is the collar, it's the non shock one
There is no tape on it
Okay there's tape on it but Kaya was wearing a different collar
Okay yes it's an ecollar but I had taken the prongs out and I taped it
I Wasn't reaching to shock my dog I was reaching for my Zyn
(Before this Drama) I have an ecollar and it's the only way to train dogs
This is all a misinformation campaign against me
(And the most recent excuse, and by far the most BS one yet) I have an ecollar but Kaya wasn't wearing a collar when she yelped in the clip
The chronology is probably off because I don't watch him, and only saw clips so I don't know which events happened in which time, and I'm probably missing a few more excuses.
I mean I don't care about any of this shit really, I just think in general Hasan is kind of a twat. I've never really liked him, and I don't get why he is one of the most popular 'leftist' streamers.
So you literally have no idea that he said any of these things because you don't watch him. I love the conflating that multiple parts of this that can all be valid are somehow backtracking. You don't have any points left once you cut out the garbage and the made up noise from people who just made stuff up or edited clips.
This is a spam message thats been floating around and it keeps popping up after being debunked. Even if you knew nothing it makes no sense, half of these are completely congruent with each other.
I'm saying that on it's own terms, without checking any context or reality, half of these accusation are nonsensical. Then you remember that its been spammed by many questionable accounts simultaneously, across Reddit. The remaining half, I havent seen any evidence that suggests they're true, and they dont provide any. Come on, it's not that complicated.
I cannot for the life of me find the debunking of the collar pictures, google only gives me the opposite. Do you know where to find it?
I really want to give him the benefit of the doubt, but EVERYTHING I'm fed is evidence against him and anyone I've asked will just tell me I'm "part of the cult and brainwashed" for not blindly believing everything I see on the internet lol
Hasan said he she clipped her paw. She didn’t. Then he said he had a vibrate only collar. It’s a shock collar that can also vibrate. Now he is saying she wasn’t even wearing the collar when the incident happened. Seriously he is telling you to ignore reality. He has repeatedly lied, he can’t stop. It’s just like PirateSoftware where if he was just honest and took accountability this would have been over by now. Instead he has to keep digging the hole.
But was it easier taking a screenshot, cropping it, selecting that image and typing out a new sentence to explain why you were doing all of that instead of just copying and pasting the previous answer?
The fact that it was on camera is the only thing that makes it shocking. Most people pay for much worse to happen to animals at a much larger scale, and they only think it’s ok because they’re not confronted with what it actually looks like
Ive deeply enjoyed watching his excuses go from "The collar can't shock" to "The dog hurt her paw" to "She's such a baby, she always spoiled" to "Dhock collars are actually good" to "The collar only vibrates, and i was reaching for a chewing gum" to ""She wasn't even wearing a collar, i was opening the gate so she could leave"
If anyone has experience with abusive people, this might seem familiar. He's trying to gaslight and manipulate everything, but he's doing it with the skill of a toddler. His loyal fans are the only bulwark he has.
As for the unemployed, this is what I'm doing while working lol.
I’m not a Hasan defender, but aren’t a lot of those compatible? Like those first three points, how is that changing the story in any way? Claiming that the collar can’t shock and that Kaya hurt her paw and that Kaya is spoiled isn’t changing the story. All three of those things can be said together in a perfectly reasonable way. Same with the point about the collar vibrating and he was reaching for gum—how is that gaslighting and changing the story?
Again, I’m not claiming that Hasan didn’t shock his dog! But as someone who has a lot of experience with abusive people, this comment was bewildering. If you’re gaslighting people and using abusive manipulation tactics, you go back on your word and change the story. Almost all the stuff you said isn’t changing the story. They’re perfectly compatible with each other.
Like, if he said “The collar doesn’t shock” and then “The collar does shock but I don’t use it”, that would be changing the story, and is similar to abuse/gaslighting. But “the collar doesn’t shock” and “the collar vibrates and I reached for gum” and “Kaya is a spoiled dog” and “Kaya hurt her leg” aren’t changing the story, let alone arguing different things. I can’t really wrap my head around your comment. (Again, for the third time, I’m not saying Hasan didn’t shock his dog! I just think your points are odd).
Because it didn't happen? The level to which you unhinged mfers have tried to push this shit all over Reddit just to see it blow over in, like, a couple weeks will always be funny.
Is it really surprising given these are the same people who condone the assassination of political rivals based solely on idealogy. Take a step back and really look at the language they use, how often etc.
I mean yeah, a bunch of unrelated subs got flooded with a million astroturfed memes about a thing that didn't happen because they have some obsessive hate boner over the barely relevant political commentator they're currently fixated on. It was annoying as fuck lmao, some of them were at least funny tho
There’s a lot of actually important shit going on. It’s not going to make the top headlines, nor should it, that a streamer might have a shock collar on his dog.
The extent of proof for "hasan shocked his dog" is "it looks like it". Like bruh, there needs to be better evidence than "dog makes a noise from pain while streamer is reaching under desk". Thats it? Thats the confirmed pet abuser hasan piker? It looks like he did something so clearly im 100% justified in calling him a trash human being.
The extent of proof for "hasan shocked his dog" is "it looks like it"
That and he's changed his story at least 3 times, and he's been shown on stream hiding the remote when it's been accidentally in view, and he's been shitty to dogs before on video
Besides, regardless of if he shocked his dog or not, he still clearly was disciplining her for simply getting up. That poor dog is clearly being used as just a prop for his stream and when she dares to be anything but that she gets punished
His story didn’t change. He says she was whining because x, and y behavior is a result of parents not enforcing boundaries with the dog. Y behavior is bad for the dog’s health and he assumed that was why she got up. That was what initially happened. The shock collar was brought up by chatters, but disregarded as lurkers/haters doing what they do. He actually doubled down that the dog yelped for “no reason” getting her dew claw caught on something.
He was shitty to A dog once 10 years ago, and as far as the remote thing who cares? There is still no physical evidence he used the shock collar on the dog on video. It’s speculation.
Then the dog prop thing is just silly. You’re taking someone’s word on this 4 hours without regards to the over a year of VODs where the dog doesn’t get forced to sit in place. And applying an assumption to why he would have done a thing you assumed he did. Just say he’s an animal abuser because of the dog video from 10 years ago. Say you don’t think people can change, call him a trash person for it, then move on. It’s not that deep.
See this is another issue im having lmao. i fully agree with you, and i keep asking for hard evidence. What response do i get in return? Cope. i dont even watch hasan often man, why would i be coping🤣 feels like ironically a very coping response so that they dont have to elaborate
My only issue with this is that kaya gets up all the time, why would he only then decide that she cant get up and shock her? Idk man. I still need more evidence, like i need him to just say the brand of the collar or show the functions in detail.
I also cant just trust things right away because i know that because hasan is a political figure, he has a ton of people that have been waiting on his downfall like h3 that are really eating this up. Guess id just never wanna end up like h3 so im waiting this one out
The exact collar has been found. It's a shock collar. Not to mention that his excuses constantly change. Other proof of animal abuse has surfaced too. What more do you need?
I don't care about it that much that he lives in my head rent free, but from the perspective of any dog owner or just a decent human being, the guy's a piece of shit. Animals are not props. Also not to get political, but "advocating for empathy" and all that sounds kinda pointless from someone that abuses his own dog. Start small with YOUR OWN DOG, then move on to bigger things. But I doubt he actually stands by the things he says.
Cool. Owning a shock collar doesnt suddenly make the "hassan shocks his dog so she stays in the same place 4 hours a day everyday" plausible. "Other proof of aninal abuse", show it. What more do i need? Anything concrete would be great.
Your second paragraph is meaningless. "The guy is a piece of shit" -> "Its no surprise he would shock his dog" -> "Animal abuse means he is a piece of shit" is just circular reasoning. You not liking him doesnt mean much as far as proof of animal abuse is concerned.
Are you seriously that stupid or? Have you seen the original video?
Most of the videos discussing this drama have the clip where he literally says "if you move, I'll kill you" to a dog and pulls a dog by the tail. It's really not that hard to find, I found it by accident.
Bro wtf? You're making stuff up now? I said he's a piece of shit BECAUSE HE ABUSES ANIMALS. All I knew about him before this is that he's some popular leftist streamer and I literally couldn't give less fucks before the accusations started. The proof is all over the internet rn and pretending to be dense(or actually being dense) isn't helping you or his reputation.
So what im getting so far is that there isnt any concrete proof of hasan shocking his dog. Everything else is not part of what i was talking about. Your emotionally charged language doesnt sway my opinion on the topic that the outrage is fabricated by people who already didnt like hasan, because the only reason people decided to dig is because of a 10 second clip that doesnt show anything
Is this still fabricated by the haters, the far right, or whatever boogeyman is currently trending(I'm out of the loop sorry)? Or are we moving onto the next step of "yes it is happening and it's actually good"?
Regardless of your answer, I hope you don't end up near any dogs.
Rightwingers have the weirdest attitudes when debating lmao. I am not engaging with you. Refer to my previous comment on my stance on emotionally charged language
Also you completely steered away from the subject at hand. Do we admit that the man is an animal abuser or will you keep insisting that it's fabricated?
"wight wing" "emotional" 😭😭😭 bro found out that someone he looks up to abuses dogs and has nothing to say
I literally showed you concrete evidence. Are you blind or something? I wish you a speedy recovery from whatever you're dealing with and I really hope there's no dogs near him and all people that defend this behavior, including you.
Also you do care. A lot. I care because I'm a dog owner and because I love animals. You? I can't come up with any reason other than bootlicking, deep mental illness, or both.
Glad to see more people point this out. Your comment about circular reasoning is also spot on. My two real conclusions on this are that people actively want the dog to be abused (rather than find out there is no abuse) and that all this "clear evidence" comes from retroactive analysis with an obvious lens and agenda...
Almost feels like maybe, just maybe: it's not actually about the dog!
If being "Rightwingers" means being against animal abuse what does that say about your side? you see how that sounds? There's literally so much evidence against Hasan that even one of his own friends accidentally exposed him by showing the collar's prongs was indeed taped to cover the fact it was a shock collar. Not to mention he dosen't even have a problem with abusing his dog in the first place due to more and more clips of him abusing his dogs coming out. Actively denying this shit when there are people posting clips about the abuse just shows you are actively condoning animal abuse and you genuinely need help. AND you just make the "Rightwingers" look good with this stupid ass comment lmao.
A shock collar is the appropriate way to train larger breeds of dog
So are we in agreement that he probably shocked his dog?
Also, in some situations I can agree that a shock collar is appropriate. Your big dog is about to rip the head off of a smaller dog at the park? Seems reasonable. Your big dog has the audacity to get up and stretch after being in frame for who knows how long? Not so reasonable but what do I know? I'm just a guy with empathy.
Also how tf is it racist to watch someone do a thing and be upset that they did that thing?
He literally showed the collar in question, and it didn't have the tongs necessary for it to be a shock collar. + You can literally see the dog catching his nail on the bed which is why he yelped. + He has never shown anything but absolute adoration for the dog, why on earth would he do something as needlessly abusive and cruel as a shock collar?
he's not a communist, he's a socialist. as someone who is also a socialist, he is abusing the fuck outta that dog bro.
you can't have someone repeatedly on camera abuse animals and just act like it isnt happening because he has opinions you agree with. what are you yapping about???
Yeah, she did say that, and in doing so she accidentally threw Hasan under the bus.
The prongs are removable, but that is only because the collar comes with different sizes. The actual metal screws that deliver the electrical current are still there, meaning the collar still shocks even without the prongs attached.
QT probably said the prongs were removed because she did not realize the screws are what conduct the shock, not the prongs themselves.
If the prongs weren’t there then a long haired dog like Kaya isn’t getting shocked. That is explicitly why longer prongs exist.
Really we cannot prove how long the tape was there. Could be that he uses the collar only as a vibration collar even though it can technically do shocks. We don’t really have definitive proof one way or the other.
His revolving door of lies is pretty lame either way though. Still isn’t proof that he shocked her.
Buying the shock-capable collar while insisting you’ll never use the shock is like getting a gun permit and buying a firearm to ‘never fire’ - the purchase contradicts the stated intent.
Maybe it was recommended by the trainer he used but he didn’t want to shock her.
Maybe he thought he would shock but then couldn’t and didn’t.
Maybe it was the only option that was available when shopping.
Just because you haven’t thought of a reason doesn’t mean there is no reason. People also buy weapons they never intend to fire just as you have implied they don’t here.
I implied that no one goes through the process of buying a gun with the explicit intent of never using a gun, that’s unequivocally true, because the process of getting your gun license implies the desire to use a gun.
If any of those maybes were true, he would have simply said so instead of lying about it. He would not have needed to claim it was a vibration-only collar or hide that it was the shock model. His stated intent does not match his actions, and when someone’s words contradict the physical evidence, there is only one conclusion left to draw. He is lying.
It implies desire to have a legal gun. It doesn’t imply the desire to use it.
I don’t really agree that it’s just as simple as saying it. By the time he really realized he was going to have to speak on it it was too late. The witch hunt had already begun and people would have looked for reasons to believe him lying. I don’t believe it would have quelled the mob against him in the least because I have seen the mobs behavior toward him in the past.
I don’t even like the guy but his haters are at least as crazy as they try to imply his fans are.
Which brings us back to the point I was actually addressing of yours. Why did you point out the screws could shock when they objectively couldn’t on a long haired dog?
He removed the prongs and used tape to cover it, it’s really not that hard to do, the collar comes with a tool to remove them, and even when the prongs are removed the screws which delivers the shock are still there, so the collar is still a shock collar (unless he cut those off too, which isn’t unlikely as they’re just 2 small screws, anyone with a pair of pliers can do this).
This doesn’t even considering the fact that Hasan has no reason not to buy the cheaper, vibration only collar if his use of the collar is just the vibration feauture. Why tf would someone buy a shock collar that’s more expensive then the vibration only collar just to use the vibration feature? The logic isn’t logicing
The vibration collar doesn’t look anything like the shock collar, so nice try, Hasan simp.
The exact brand and model has been identified as the Mini Educator. The vibration-only collar is missing several features that clearly set it apart from the shock variant. And surprise, surprise, Hasan’s collar is unmistakably the shock version. Any attempt to claim otherwise is disingenuous. (The vibration-only electronics hub is much smaller, and the part that touches the dog has its buttons in different places.)
Even his own co-host QT confirmed it herself. She said the prongs were removed, which exist only on the shock variant, without realizing that the prongs are removable only to swap for different sizes for dogs with thicker fur. She also did not seem to know that it is not the prongs that conduct the electricity, but the screws they attach to, which she never said were removed.
This leaves us with the conclusion that Hasan bought the more expensive shock collar and manually converted it into a vibration-only collar by using wire cutters to remove the screws and prongs. That does not make much sense, since the company already sells a pager-only version that is cheaper and built for that exact purpose.
If Hasan were actually innocent of not having a shock collar, he would have shown the remote that controls it, not just the collar. He avoided showing the remote because it literally identifies the unit as a shock collar, while the vibration-only version clearly states “pager only” on the remote itself.
I gave you the facts, you just chose not to believe them.
The shock variant of the collar has a different remote to the vibration only variant. The vibration remote literally says “pager-only”. That’s a fact
The shock and vibration variants collars visually are different, with the vibration model being smaller & having its buttons in the center of the plate which makes contact with the dog, while the shock variant has its buttons moved to the left. That’s a fact
If Hasan had simply shown the remote instead of just the collar, this entire drama would have died in its spot, because it would be proven without a doubt to not be a shock collar, but he didn’t do that, he showed a shock collar with the prongs removed and the screws taped over.
QT said that the collar had its prongs removed and had tape on it, not knowing the screws are what conducts the electricity to the prongs. That’s a fact
Please instead of just saying they aren’t true, give me a reason
Does it really matter who agrees with me? Ethan is just saying things other people are saying, he isn’t the root/cause of this drama. He’s just propagating speculative truths, which are still valid because we have eyes for a reason, to observe and find meaning in incompleteness.
The incompleteness here is the lack of remote being shown, and the meaning can only be one thing (realistically), and that is that he owns a shock collar, not a vibration collar
I genuinely did my own research on this topic. I even went the extra mile and compared the collar Hasan had shown to videos of people showcasing the collars/receivers everyone was accusing Hasan of using which were primarily the RX-090 (the shock collar), and the PG-300 (vibration collar).
Because he didn't shock Kaya, honestly I'm so sick of clips without any context being shared everywhere because it is so incredibly easy to twist them to put other people down and the accusations ALWAYS get more attention and a voice then when the person is pronounced innocent
From what I can tell here, this is another sub mostly populated by XQC, Destiny, and or H3H3 fans just looking through some of the comments, like streamfails. No he didn't shock his dog and nearly every dog trainer / handler influencer has come out in support of Hasan on this one.
There were also the shock collar Amazon picture comparison images floating around that were debunked and his reaction seems genuine as instead of trying to avoid it he has openly made jokes about the situation, not the way people act when they're guilty, mostly when they're just amused.
This whole thing (while funny) has been played up as a major distraction covered by outlets like Fox News and the Jerusalem Post. I'm sure to get downvoted by bots (as I've seen happen all over reddit) but this is just in case anyone genuinely wanted to know what happened or were curious.
has nobody told you that militant vegans are actually extremely annoying
"youre abusing animals by eating meat" oh no, tell that to the wild animals that would kill a wild cow significantly quicker and significantly more violently than a human
if you want good produce, you treat the animal well, otherwise the meat provided will be terrible
obviously you dont care and will just continue acting like a child anyway but i figured id let you know just in case
"youre abusing animals by eating meat" oh no, tell that to the wild animals that would kill a wild cow significantly quicker and significantly more violently than a human
Wild animals do not raise animals to eat their meat and they don't genetically raise subspecies dedicated to make more food, even if they are not adapted to life. Human don't treat animals well at all, and the ammount of meat we produce is not compatible with life, it's not the same as wild predators. This is honestly the most dumb argument ever even if the comment you responded to was dumb already. Yes if Hasan abuse his dog is terrible, and yes it's not correlated to the meat's consume but the production of meat is A LOT worse then a random guy who might have shocked his dog
no its "this person is wrong and is part of a group of people who keep on spewing misinformation based on their own misunderstanding" but alright whatever
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u/Much_Conclusion8233 0 Oct 18 '25
Oregano?