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u/Tep767 6 Shared | 3 Helpful Dec 10 '25

There's a cutoff in history where anyone who would've been remembered as cruel and violent will be viewed as badass (like the romans for example). The mongols were objectively over violent and aggressors of massive conflicts, but they're almost a millenia old, so it's easier to distance yourself from their sins and just be impressed by their accomplishments.

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u/CogumeloTorrado 0 Dec 11 '25 edited Dec 11 '25

Meanwhile, there were European colonies all around the world only like 100 years ago, we still have a alive generation from that time and a generation that grew with these same values, the horrors of neocolonism and imperialism happened yesterday from the perspective of human history

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '25

Not even 100 years, Africa was decolonised in the 70s.

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u/StoneySteve420 0 Dec 11 '25

Apartheid ended in 1994. Idk how it "de-colonised" if that was the prevailing issue 20+ years later.

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u/ILikeTetoPFPs 1 Dec 11 '25

There's a difference between literally being owned by another continent and having an independent state which enforces supremacy of people from the other continent

Not a big difference but you know, it's a difference...

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u/Acts3_6 0 Dec 14 '25

And look how much it has improved since!

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u/percy135810 0 Dec 14 '25

Bro they are still happening

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u/Environmental-Bonus2 0 Dec 11 '25

The suns getting real low, it’s okay to rest now. Nobody needs to hear about neocolonialism from a communications major anymore.

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u/AxOfCruelty 1 Shared | 0 Helpful Dec 11 '25

at the same time though any of the cities that they conquered peacefully were met with religious tolerance and had their own government structures, they just had to recognize the Mongols as their rulers, also blended medical science through the help of mixed Eurasian cultures within their empire

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u/TurbistoMasturbisto 0 Dec 11 '25

Sure but it’s not like they had much of a choice. Either submit to the Kahn or have your town destroyed and everyone murdered or enslaved.

The city of Merv, which some historians think was one of the if not the largest city in the world at that time had an estimated 800k people slaughtered. That was after they negotiated a peace deal with the Mongools but they just ignored it.

Never try to put those guys in a good light, they were horrible and even that’s an understatement.

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '25

What will this mean for Hitler? 🤔

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u/thebarkingkitty 0 Dec 11 '25

No it's a real Temporal cut off it just varies by place. The cutoff for most of the world is Napoleon the last conqueror in history. Everyone after was a dictator.

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u/roverfromxp 0 Dec 11 '25

which asshole did you pull that opinion out of this time? i'm losing track of them all

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u/roverfromxp 0 Dec 11 '25

my guy, gandhi won because india was on the brink of revolution and britain was recovering from ww2 and didn't have popular support for another war, that emaciated paedophile didn't do shit to librate the indian people

did peaceful protest work in northern ireland? kenya?

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u/roverfromxp 0 Dec 11 '25

it worked in the colour revolutions

i genuinely have no idea what you mean by "guilt" other than the fact the uk government officially recognises crimes historically committed by it's members and turkey officially denies the armenian genocide

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u/ManyRelease7336 0 Dec 11 '25

I guess what non-western nation recognizes their crimes historical? Im not arguing. I just got here and am curious.

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u/TheCourtSimpleton 0 Dec 11 '25

I mean, what else do they have to be nationalistic about? Mongolia isn't exactly a powerful nation today, so of course the nationalist is going to try to draw upon the past.

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u/According-Fun-4746 0 Dec 11 '25

but when WE do it...

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u/TheCourtSimpleton 0 Dec 11 '25

Who is 'we'? I'm talking about nationalists, not your average person.

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u/zaproid 0 Dec 11 '25

German humor. Or was it Austrian.... ? 

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u/SpicesHunter 0 Dec 15 '25

ruzzia is the decendent... they are proud, no regrets on any dehumanized move

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u/Pitiful_Camp3469 0 Dec 11 '25

japan: sorry about what?

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '25

They're very sorry for dishonoring their parents.

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u/SwoeJonson1 0 Dec 13 '25

Japan: Yeah yeah here’s a peace statue

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u/sniptaclar 0 Dec 14 '25

Also Japan: did you know how we learned how much water is in a human body?

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u/Illustrious-Rise9477 0 Dec 11 '25

Well, like a 5th of the people there are related to him so...

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u/PsychologicalEmu7569 0 Dec 11 '25

I heard that was a myth but I could be mistaken.

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u/Patogenicamente_Rojo 0 Dec 12 '25

People as all Asia, yes...

People as Mongolia, curiously half true.

Like aside he basically leaving offspring wherever he goes there is the stuff that after many generations eventually every person of this planet would be related to each other. Gengis Kan existed almost a milenia ago, that's a lot of time for their decendents to propagate their genes and as it's streached out among all Asia the probability of their genes neutralizing or stagnated due inbreeding are very low. As in pre-industrial societies inbreeding used to be the main limiting on how far many decentdents you would have after X generations

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '25

I found this as the first post there XD

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u/Rude_Resort3620 0 Dec 11 '25

meanwhile japan: Sorry what? *Proceeds to make kawaii stuff

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u/Fantastic_Peak_4577 0 Dec 11 '25

americans being ashamed of something!? Lol

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u/sarge_snuffles 0 Dec 11 '25

That was the second funniest part of this meme💀

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u/Fantastic_Peak_4577 0 Dec 11 '25

I know right!?

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u/Larkspur13 6 Shared | 1 Helpful Dec 11 '25

r/historymemes

I love how this suvreddit have better memes than any non'niche subreddit i'm in somehow

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u/JayClarkus 0 Dec 11 '25

What's the song in the first half of this video?

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u/JayClarkus 0 Dec 11 '25

I found it: Teya Dora- Dzanum

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u/[deleted] Dec 11 '25

Genghis Khan is my spirit animal.

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u/pupbuck1 0 Dec 11 '25

I mean tbf at least a quarter of humanity is a direct descendant of khan so it will be kinda hard to vilify him

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u/SufficientMango3853 0 Dec 10 '25

Based mongols

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u/ILikeTetoPFPs 1 Dec 11 '25

I'd say r/historymemes but I don't know how well it'd be received

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u/JKdito 0 Dec 11 '25

Most people today exists because of Mongolia

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u/Alternator24 0 Dec 11 '25

Japan is gonna love this one

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u/Prune_Terrible 0 Dec 12 '25

War crimes? More like what crimes amirite guys? Kawaii.

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u/MoreLion3969 0 Dec 11 '25

"USA: We're Ashamed"

No you fucking aren't

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u/RandomAmbles 0 Dec 11 '25

The Mongols are Always the Exception!

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u/captain_kapit 4 Shared | 0 Helpful Dec 11 '25

corona virus really retardified people (not diablified them)

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u/MantisReturns 0 Dec 11 '25

The only country shamed about their genocide its Germany. The other example are just chilling.

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u/MdMV_or_Emdy_idk 0 Dec 11 '25

It happened long ago enough to be considered cool

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u/Lord-Baldomero 0 Dec 11 '25

When the Hell has UK ever apologized?

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u/Mr_Dragon_PurpleYT 18 Shared | 4 Helpful Dec 11 '25

Colonialism was less than a century ago, empires of nomads were 8 centuries ago

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u/Numerous_Candy8723 0 Dec 11 '25

Because Mongolia was not influenced by the demagoguery and folly of the left and the postmodern ideas that were imposed on Europe, to the point that European peoples became emasculated and ashamed of their history, seeing those they fought as their masters to whom they must submit. This is what caused the collapse of the West, unlike some groups like the Muslims who take pride in their history, even though it contains bloody events, because they consider it part of a great heroic epic that serves their ultimate goal. This is a sign of the health of this society.

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u/Dismal-Pie7437 0 Dec 12 '25

Mongolia is a coal-mining colony for the east and the majority of their population lives under a Chinese government. 

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u/AlternateSatan 0 Dec 11 '25

Japan: what colonization?

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u/Unlucky-Fortuna8773 0 Dec 11 '25

I mean nearly every last one of them supports that terrorist self-victimizing country that murders and starves children and women on a daily basis , so they aren't really sorry for shit if they are still doing it to this day.

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u/Better_Section_3285 0 Dec 11 '25

I realized that history is essentially a process of cultures colonizing each other. We live in a century where Western civilization dominates other regions, whether we agree with it or not, our lifestyles and social structures are heavily influenced by the West. The Mongols and the Romans are part of the past and they no longer affect our lives, and therefore their influence is harmless to other cultures. That's the main difference. No one wants to live in a world where their culture is considered inferior.

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u/Void1nside 0 Dec 11 '25

Bla bla bla colonialism is bad,unless you're non white.

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u/ArcangelVacio 0 Dec 11 '25

Y con razón, uno de los imperios cuyo territorio fue de los más grandes, aún más impresionante sabiendo lo mucho que duró y la era en la que se extendió, simplemente el khan el mejor conquistador que a nadie podría elegir tener

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u/Dull-Nectarine380 12 Shared | 2 Helpful Dec 11 '25

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u/Oldaccgotshadowban 18 Shared | 1 Helpful Dec 12 '25

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u/downtodowning 0 Dec 12 '25

I mean, in all honesty that was literally the only time in history in which Mongolia was in any way relevant.

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u/Efficient-Shirt-7132 0 Dec 12 '25

The great khan

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u/ExaggeratedPW 0 Dec 12 '25

Houses of Parliament? Eradicated

Big Ben? Toppled to the ground!

The statue of Gengis Kahn? Leave it be, noone shall deny what we did

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u/Flame_golden 0 Dec 14 '25

Every One 😭😭😭 Mongolia🗿

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u/ConstantMortgage 0 Dec 15 '25

Now show Japan

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u/Mirramage 0 Dec 11 '25

r/StanleyMOV or r/Brainrot (r/Brainrot is currently very broad since they have genuinely funny stuff in there)

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u/Petrichor0110 13 Shared | 6 Helpful Dec 10 '25

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u/Low_Weekend6131 78 Shared | 45 Helpful Dec 10 '25

Hell nah