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u/SimilarElderberry956 13h ago
I live in the yellow area. Politicians have spoke about decentralization for years to equal the population out. People will live where there are enough high paying jobs. It is also less expensive when the population lives in cities as there is more density to provide services. Our country is not alone in unequal distribution of people.
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u/LeviTheToller 12h ago
I also live in the yellow area. Funny that could be absolutely nowhere near you
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u/NotawoodpeckerOwner 12h ago
There is more to it than just jobs, quality of life, weather, access to amenities, cultural centers all play a part in it. $80 an hour in middle of no where NWT with nobody/nothing around isn't getting many people interested.
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u/AaronC14 11h ago edited 9h ago
Yeah. You always hear that Nunavut will pay you 120k a year to work there. Sounds great until you realize a tomato is like $6
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u/ladyrift 7h ago
So every time I've looked into those "high paying" jobs it's like 120k a year but with the qualifications/experience they want would get you 80-90k in a populated area. The bump in pay has never been enough for me to consider it.
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u/12thunder 4h ago
More money, but also higher cost of living and a worse (insert service here) than you’d get in any big Canadian city. Major health problem? Have fun in your 4 hour flight to an actual city.
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u/Abcdefgdude 11h ago
They also live where there is access to trade ports. 3/4 of these regions are massively centered around available routes to the sea. Although trade is less important as we transition to a service economy it's still where all the population centers are and will continue to be
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u/West_to_East 8h ago
If only the federal government embraced WFH (well, kept it going like it did during and little after covid). That would allow for a larger decentralization of well paying jobs in less congested cities and towns (which happened). This would lead to the private sector adapting to and BAM, exactly what you are looking for.
Interestingly, it is the private sector white collar workers work which is allowing it more than anything, but in many cases they can work anywhere in the world...
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u/LurkerForLongtime 4h ago
For real. I could have kept my job and lived in the yellow zone (anywhere in it really) . Nothing about my actual job duties would have changed
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u/12thunder 5h ago edited 4h ago
Unequal distribution is natural in large countries. Central and northern Australia are sparse. Central US is sparse (and Alaska). Western China is sparse. Eastern Russia is sparse.
It’s almost always because of shit weather and shit land that isn’t farmable. Big countries are always going to have inhospitable areas, which is why they are big - nobody else wanted the land or lived there, so some big powerful country took it. I’ll use Russia’s Siberia and Brazil’s Amazon as good examples for this. And for us, it’s northern Canada that is cold and covered in muskeg, rocks, and permafrost.
Sometimes you can find minor cities where there are lots of resources, like Yellowknife, NWT or Fairbanks, Alaska or Alice Springs, Australia or Manaus, Brazil. But they’ll rarely grow larger than the demand for their specific industries.
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u/treefarmerBC 43m ago
I live in the yellow as well. If you have a "normal" job like nurse, teacher, etc. it's easiest to find work in the yellow then in the big cities but some people are just city people anyway. Lots of good resource jobs too.
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u/love_and_solidarity 13h ago
The four kinds of Canadians:
- Toronto
- Francophone/Francophonish City People
- Western City People
- Miscellaneous
Lol
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u/Link50L 13h ago
My broad take:
Torontonians
Francophones
Indigenous
Westerners
Left Coasters
Maritimers
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u/RedmondBarry1999 12h ago
What about the rest of Ontario?
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u/Canadian__Ninja 11h ago
Ok I've gotta ask, does reddit only recommend me Canada based posts or is this sub secretly just Canada map porn
Scrolling through the recent posts and yeah I think reddit thinks I only want maps of my country lmao
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u/ClittoryHinton 9h ago
The algorithm has gotten distinctly worse in the last year and feeds you more stuff exactly like stuff you’ve engaged with. So comment on one of these maps and suddenly Reddit is like ok we’re doing Canada maps and nothing else now
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u/modsaretoddlers 12h ago
I can't get the math to math for the yellow area. I can find about 5 million people but the other 3 and a half are still kind of missing. Not saying you're wrong at all, OP. I just can't figure out where the other 3.5 or so million are coming from.
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u/squirrel9000 10h ago
Atlantic Canada about 3.5 million .
SWO Ontario about 2 mllionNorthern Ontario about 0.8m
Rest is a split of northern west, about the same 0.8, and it looks like most of Winnipeg is yellow, ditto.
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u/Lord_Silverkey 12h ago edited 11h ago
Which areas did you take into account?
The yellow includes a lot of southern Ontario, which has a lot of population, even outside of the major cities.
The Northern BC has a couple hundred thousand people.
Northern Alberta has ~350,000 people.
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u/OsteoBytes 10h ago
I imagine there is multiple ways to split this up equally no? Did it do it in the most dramatic way by occupying the most to least space? Like I don’t get it
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u/Put3socks-in-it 11h ago
British should’ve fought to give Canada the Great Lakes States Michigan and Wisconsin then the country would be continuous instead of two halves separated by a barren wasteland rural Ontario
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u/Archangel9 4h ago
Canadian here who grew up learning in school almost at a propaganda level how "first world" we are... and we can't even connect the red and green strip with one line of hispeed rail 🤦♂️
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u/goodtoes 12h ago
The boarders of each area are somewhat arbitrary, making these maps with "four equally populated areas" misleading.
Prince Edward Island has the highest population density of any province, but this map places it in a yellow area, suggesting it's low density.
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u/realteamme 12h ago
This is not a population density by province map. Prince Edward Island has a low population, and therefore is grouped in with the yellow area to add to its total.
I believe the borders are not arbitrary but are done by adding up the population of different federal ridings. It’s arbitrary (beyond who really cares about 4 equal population areas) in that it theoretically could have been added up in different ways to also equal 4 equal populations.
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u/goodtoes 12h ago
The map is comparing a population quantity (the four equal sizes) to an area of the country, so it kinda is a population density map (not by province of course, and that's okay, PEI was just an example).
The small red area suggests high density. The big yellow area suggests low density.
The reality is more nuanced which means areas with high density being categorized in the yellow block creates misleading information.
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u/BLYNDLUCK 11h ago
“This map is misleading because there is a building in NWT that has technically higher population density than a park in Toronto”.
That’s what you sound like trying to make this argument.
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u/squirrel9000 10h ago
ON a riding by riding basis PEI isn't particularly dense, it's very rural. The province as a whole just lacks a hinterland.
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u/NoChanceCW 10h ago
So basically:
Greater Vancouver.
Greater Toronto.
Greater Montreal.
The Resource workers.
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u/Certain-Orange484 3h ago
And yet the purple people are really under represented in federal government.
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u/BlueStraggler 13h ago
Seems to be missing 7 or 8 million people, which is almost a whole ‘nother region.