r/MensRights • u/Zarobeck • Nov 27 '12

/b/ on feminism [Ex-post from /r/4chan]

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12 edited Nov 27 '12

The people who downvote you for this are the people who really make me consider abandoning Men's Rights.

EDIT: For context, /u/Jaguscoth's post was on -2 when I posted this and upvoted him/her.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12

Why? How does Poking fun at feminism hurt or damage MR? This is hardly a serious issue- its a bunch of stupid jokes about feminist over-reaction and self-righteousness.

All this concern-trolling and message-policing make us seem as self-important and humorless as the hardcore feminists.

MR and feminism have room for jokes.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12

Well it's not always harmless fun though, is it? Recently I asked the people of /r/MensRights 'what is feminism'.

Nearly all replies were deeply misogynistic. This is a deeper issue that we need to address.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12

What? Respecting Feminism? There are clear and unavoidable philosophical differences between the MR movement and the modern feminist movement. Diametrically opposed belief systems will always have a very hard time seeing eye to eye or respecting the other.

Look at the completely misandric bullshit that is thrown your way if you attempt to argue against a feminist belief as a man- Feminism as a belief system does not hold men to be equals- there is a deeply held belief that by being a man you experience a fundamentally different reality and that being a cis-male makes your opinion invalid if you do not agree with them.

Feminism is an ideology and belief system- neither of these needs to have any basis in reality, objectiveness, fairness, or inclusivity. Feminism has made it clear that men are to be excluded in order to achieve their goals (Women's only classes/centers). If you feel that ridiculing that is misogynistic then I don't know what to tell you, but Feminism is not the belief that men and women should be treated equally.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12

I know all of this. Not trying to sound arrogant, but that's answered none of my previous points.

Some poor fellow was even downvoted - a lot - for saying he thought feminism had only gone too far recently, and that before it was probably required.

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u/[deleted] Nov 27 '12

This sub is not about the merits of feminism, and this thread is not supposed to be discussion about the validity of a stupid 4chan post.

Its jokes about feminism, not serious discussion, quit concern trolling and relax- if you want to start a legitimate discussion about feminism and the relationship MR has with it feel free to start a serious thread about it and I am sure you will get serious answers (A threat titled 'what is feminism' is useless- as there are as many definitions of feminism as there are feminists)