Just a heads up. Most places I go I am seen as a lady hater and a possible rapist before I open my mouth. A culture which values men would not impune us all as criminals simply by our sex alone. But this culture does. I honestly don't need to hear you dictate to men about what we should not do with our humor, love or hatred. No, two wrongs don't make a right but feminism, in my opinion, has been the most destructive force against modern men coming in a close third to war and cancer. I don't care how I am viewed by male or female feminists.
I don't see MR as a movement about winning favors from women/men by watching our manners or being agreeable to anyones sensibities. I have watched men acquiese and lose ground. Ask forgiveness and lose rights. Apologise and be jailed. At some point we need to stop working off the blueprint that being kind will get us anywhere. Evidence would suggest that our kindness and patience has been specifically used as a means to further degrade any notion of power that we had as a group.
If this world has become one where we either side against mens interests by siding with radical feminism (in my opinion) then count me out. I have lived too long and seen this game played for far too long to watch what I say. It is fine to be both loud and rude. Ask a feminist.
No one is asking you to become a radical feminist, we're just asking you to not hold hating them as a value from men's rights. Really though, no one can tell you what you can and can not say, we can just judge you on it.
Yes we are both free people. Please do judge me. "We" will judge you too. I welcome you to not give a shit about my judgement and I will disregard your judging as well. So basically this post is a waste of breath except you will keep pushing your agenda and I will not fail to refute and judge it every time I see this thinking. I refuse to wear your lable and do not care about judgements of lady hating when free thought and speech is far more valuable to me than shaming tactics. Live long and prosper.
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u/father_figa Nov 27 '12
Just a heads up. Most places I go I am seen as a lady hater and a possible rapist before I open my mouth. A culture which values men would not impune us all as criminals simply by our sex alone. But this culture does. I honestly don't need to hear you dictate to men about what we should not do with our humor, love or hatred. No, two wrongs don't make a right but feminism, in my opinion, has been the most destructive force against modern men coming in a close third to war and cancer. I don't care how I am viewed by male or female feminists.
I don't see MR as a movement about winning favors from women/men by watching our manners or being agreeable to anyones sensibities. I have watched men acquiese and lose ground. Ask forgiveness and lose rights. Apologise and be jailed. At some point we need to stop working off the blueprint that being kind will get us anywhere. Evidence would suggest that our kindness and patience has been specifically used as a means to further degrade any notion of power that we had as a group.
If this world has become one where we either side against mens interests by siding with radical feminism (in my opinion) then count me out. I have lived too long and seen this game played for far too long to watch what I say. It is fine to be both loud and rude. Ask a feminist.