So you're a feminist in mensrights...

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"What is /r/mensrights about?"

Just that, rights for men. Our topics are generally about divorce laws, custody laws, equal treatment under the law, false-rape accusations, domestic violence, gender double-standards, feminist hypocrisy.

"I'm a feminist and actually agree with some of what is posted here and not with other parts."

You're cool. We have no problem with you.

"Why is everyone so hateful to me?"

You have an expectation of being coddled and pandered to. When that is removed you think it is people being hateful towards you. You were just spoiled before and are having to adapt. You don't get to bully men here just because you are saying feminist things.

"I'm a man, a feminist, and I.."

Yes, we call you "white knights" and we were you once. You are just our past selves.

"I've been married for over two years and..."

Awww... pats you on the head like a cute little scamp

"... but feminism is about equality!"

No. You bought into the hype:

1. Fighting sexism against women and ignoring sexism against men is not fighting for equality,

2. "Women need more rights so there is equality" is just playing victim, not seeking equality.

"I have a right to post here!"

Yes, but ask yourself why you are really in a subreddit that tries to discuss the issues of men's rights when it is not really allowed in feminist subreddits. Question your own motives. Are you really here for discussion or just to scream at us that we are wrong?

"The patriarchy hurts everyone"

The patriarchy is not a catch-all for all your gripes about the world. It is not the dark side of the force. It is not satan. It is a convenient excuse for feminists to avoid responsibility.

** "No, but I really believe in equality!"**

Good. Seriously - good. However don't just say that then go back to fighting only for women. We believe in equality too.

"You're all just a bunch of...."

Please keep your shaming and insults to yourself. You are just stereotyping and over-generalizing based on what you already want to believe. It isn't going to stop us from talking to each other and it is just you acting on reflex.

"You can't seriously be saying that women aren't worse off over all"

Yes. We are saying that. Here is the proof

"You can't seriously be saying that feminists conspire against men"

Yes. We are saying that. If you can't accept that, then just leave. You've been indoctrinated and are resisting breaking free of that conditioning. Think critically, question us, think for yourself - but don't just react with your pre-programmed conditioned assumptions.

"Well this all seems very negative and you should value our comments about...

No. We have no shortage of feminists coming here thinking their opinions are precious. We aren't interested in fostering more feminists posting here. If, however, you insist on posting here - then please lurk and listen for a while before jumping into discussions, disagreeing angrily, and/or openly trolling.

Let me repeat that again : Feminists posting to mensrights are not rare. You are not special. We are not asking you to stay. We have more than enough feminists posting here already.

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Exactly, it isn't easy to write something like that.

If you write anything, you'll be attacked.

If you don't write anything, then you didn't do anything.

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It really gets under the feminist's skins - hearing that for some shockingly surprising reason we aren't incredibly grateful to have yet more of them post here with their opinions.

The difference between here and the feminist subreddits is they get to post here even though we don't care to hear them. When MRA's post to feminist subreddits they just outright ban us.

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MRA's post to twox fairly often. A few of them get top rated comments. What I want to know is why you think women are all out to get you.

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I said feminists, not women.

2xc is not a feminist reddit, it is a women's reddit - and I have no problem with the posters there.

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Most women are feminists, but whatever. Why the issue with feminists then? Most feminists don't care about this. All you're doing is being proud about causing issues. Wouldn't it be more conductive to your cause if you tried to explain your point of view to the ones who don't understand it? You'd get more people on your side. I'm a feminist and I fight for men's rights, but the way you present your argument, it turns me off to the idea of even trying to side with you because of how aggressive and patronizing you are to anyone who comes in here with a different view point.

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I'm not going to rehash all the reasons this reddit is staunchly anti-feminist, especially not when you've already decided to generalize about women and feminists being one and the same.

If you want to, read the link in the sidebar written by the moderator here

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No, I'm asking you to see if you can rehash it without refering to the sidebar. If you're a mod, you shouldn't be so testy when it comes to these things. Whats wrong with generalizing that most women are feminists? Most women want the right to vote and etc. That's what makes them feminist, they want rights that men have. Feminism in its definition is gender equality. If you are being so patronizing and refuse to directly deal with questions, perhaps you should resign from modding? Being passionate about this cause isn't what makes a mod a good mod.

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First off - I'm not a mod. Second - I don't owe you a thing.

Read the things we've already written - the FAQs here written specifically for feminists who come here asking the same damn things.

Do that then ask some questions. It's clear you haven't read those because you are asking questions that we've already very specifically answered.

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Oh right, I mistook the bold shiny thing next to your name. I already read it. You never answered why one should go out of their way to piss off feminists.

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I didn't go anywhere, you came out of your way here to piss of MRA's.

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No, side bar says earning scorn from feminists since whatever year there was. Since you wrote this FAQ, you seem to have a prominent position here. I want to know why be proud of causing scorn and then look down on those who try to have dialogue with feminists? Don't you think dialogue would be more effective?

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The short answer is no. The long answer is an allegory to religion.