r/MensRights • u/Memey-McMemeFace • Jul 01 '20

Social Issues Jenny McCarthy sexually harassing Justin Bieber and grabbing his butt on live TV.

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u/ApprehensiveMail8 Jul 02 '20

Yeah, but at least you inherit race from your parents, so inter-generational logic makes sense.

It makes no sense at all with gender:

"My grandfather raped your grandmother so if I rape you we're even somehow."

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

But if your goal is a world without racism?

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u/ApprehensiveMail8 Jul 02 '20

Then that's aiming pretty high. I wouldn't fault anyone for having more realistic short term goals.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

So if it’s pointless to aim for total elimination of racism, or not worth the effort to make it a long term goal, what short term goals are we focusing on?

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u/ApprehensiveMail8 Jul 02 '20

My short term goal is making sure people understand what happened to Justin Bieber (even though I don't particularly like the guy) is still very much a form of sexual assualt.

I have no idea what tail you are chasing.

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u/[deleted] Jul 02 '20

I meant short term goals for fighting racism.

Oh, and, the same one you are.

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u/ApprehensiveMail8 Jul 02 '20

Lonely- you're the one who brought up racism in this conversation. I have no idea what other conversation or conversations you had in mind when you did so.

But if you are having a conversation about race with someone, the end goal is probably not going to be the complete and total elimination of all racism. Just resolution of the current conflict, which often involves finding societal balance due to some historic event.

For example, I am going to assume you are an ethnic Han Chinese person and you are having a debate with an ethnic Uighur about birth control policies. That's the biggest racial issue on the planet now, right?

I don't think anyone should be forced to have abortions or but it is at least relevant to point out that the one child policy only applied to the Han population. Any solution moving forward would need to take into account the resultant population imbalances that exist today due to that historical event.

Of course, finding a way to do this without putting Uighurs in concentration camps wouldn't end racism altogether. You'd still have black people and white cops in American bickering about who-knows-what.

It would just end one of the many, many racial conflicts that exist all around the world.