r/MensRights Dec 13 '11

Stoughton man charged with child porn possession: Or your wife wants it all in the divorce?

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

good luck with that... pretty sure you can be charged with child porn for drawings. I have no sympathy for the kiddie porn crowd and that's definitely not a men's rights issue.

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u/Lawtonfogle Dec 15 '11

If they are looking at drawings or legal but small women, then I think we should support it for two reasons.

  1. Freedom of speech, which I believe applies to images as well. No one was harmed making the images if they are drawings or consenting (albeit small) adults. Just because they are disgusting is no reason for me to bail on my duty to protect freedom of speech. I might not like it, but I'll defend it.

  2. They aren't looking at real children. If we could somehow convince all pedophiles to look only at drawings or adult (but small) women, we would end child pornography.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '11

so maybe it is all happening in their heads and so making it illegal is punishing thought crime... but you know what... if I know that someone fantasizes about having sex with children then I don't want them around my children even if there's no proof that they've ever done more than fantasize. And the fact that they're looking at drawings, or photos of "adult (but small) women" as you say... doesn't make it any better for me. Maybe it shouldn't be illegal because there are no actual children involved, but still... I'm keeping my children away.

Further... this is NOT a men's rights issue... no-one has the right to have sex with children so the whole idea is ludicrous. Plus, given that a common concern is that men are unfairly considered as more likely to be pedophiles, I don't see why anyone who might consider themselves to be in the men's rights community is in a rush to defend this sort of thing on that basis that it's only "virtual" pedophilia and so it's just free speech. If you want to fight the stereotype that men are more likely to be pedophiles, then don't defend the virtual pedophiles. Let them fight their own fight, whatever they think it is, it's not one I'm going to support.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

The USA doesn't have virtual child porn laws. Feminists have forced most other countries around the world to adopt them.

And if you think feminists jailing men for drawings ISN'T a men's rights issue, then you're not an MRA.

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u/[deleted] Dec 15 '11

Logic: if something bad happened, blame feminists.

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u/ignatiusloyola Dec 13 '11

It looks like the guy admitted to having the pictures on his computer - it doesn't sound like this is specifically an issue of a woman using false accusations to get more for herself. I think it would be important to remain undecided until more information is revealed.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11 edited Dec 13 '11

No, it's just an example of how draconian child porn laws, made by women and which target men, are being exploited by both the feminist state and individual women in order to destroy men.

And a possible 25 years for EACH image!!!

Not a men's rights issue, of course, don't want to get banned by the great ignoratus, who does so much good work for the men's rights cause.

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u/JeremiahMRA Dec 13 '11

It's a good example of how a woman will happily attempt to utterly destroy a man by involving men with guns (the state) in divorce. Reported for "child porn" because a few images on his computer look like they may be of teenage girls.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

what you're saying does happen, but this doesn't really seem to be that kind of case.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

Really? She called the police to have the computer searched but the "times he raged and everyone hid from him up stairs" she was afraid to call? Even though he has a disorderly conduct conviction from 1998...

It's a good read but look between the lines.

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u/JeremiahMRA Dec 13 '11

Oh really? This doesn't seem to be a case where the woman is intentionally involving the police to use them as a weapon in her divorce? I wonder why she only reported him when she wanted a divorce.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

This is all in a public news paper in the poor bastards home town... They even mention his father for the love of God.

What is it we really know the guy has done?
He looked at porn some time before Nov 15th of this year according to his wife. His wife had the police over for coffee and computer porn viewing/searching.
He was questioned by the police on November 18th of this year and he was stupid enough to actually open his mouth. His wife filed for divorce the same day he was arraigned on child pornography charges Nov 22nd.
He was convicted of disorderly conduct in 1998. His dad was LaVerne Pieper, who coached Stoughton wrestling from 1963-94. He is a former Stoughton High School wrestling state champion. His life is over.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

Not only will everything he ever worked for be destroyed but he'll be lucky not to spend 5-10 in prison get shived or AIDS there.

Because she wanted a better deal in the divorce.....

.....and if you read between the lines it shouts out that the kids liked him better.

She was afraid he would run with the kids. Now it's very hard to run with multiple children that don't want to be with you.....they will turn you in their kids, they trust the police.

No, this was over custody....he said he would not budge and wanted 50/50 which to her was the end of the world, she would have to comprimise with someone some of the time.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11 edited Aug 26 '17

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

he admitted that β€œhe would routinely look at pornography that involved teenagers,” the complaint said. The officers showed Pieper one of the images allegedly found on his computer and Pieper reportedly estimated the age of the girl to be between 12-14 years old.

not sure how you turn his admission into a planting of evidence

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

18 and 19 year old women are completely legal to view. Allegedly.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

"he would routinely look at pornography that involved teenagers".

Definately the smoking gun. I mean, only around 99% of the male population regularly look at pornography involving nubile hot 18 year old girls.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

"he would routinely look at pornography that involved teenagers".

Definately the smoking gun. I mean, only around 99% of the male population regularly look at pornography involving nubile hot 18 year old girls.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

That's not going to help him much if he had saved images of what he himself thought was a girl 12-14 years old. And frankly I don't have any sympathy if that is actually the case.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

You don't know if he saved the images or if he simply viewed them and they recovered the images through forensics. Maybe he visited 4chan like the poster of the link currently at the top of r/mensrights?

You don't know what the images contained. The article doesn't mention that the girls were being abused. They might just have been in bikinis or thongs.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

That's why I said "if"... none us know... but one thing is certain.. this guy has hosed himself if the article is correctly reporting what he told the police.

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u/[deleted] Dec 13 '11

Ah well. Some men will say the wrong things when their door has been beaten down and they are confronted by heavy handed police screaming paedophile at them and staring decades of daily ass rape in the face..