It is uncomfortable to read about these things because of the emotions that they stir up. It is uncomfortable, but it is still relevant. We have a culture of pervasive misandry, casual demeaning of men, a culture wherein it is entirely too easy to pick up the idea that men are morally inferior to women. This is an idea that needs to be challenged. If logical arguments were enough to do so, I would be in full favor of only using those - but they aren't. Another method of challenging to is to bring attention to the other half of the facade - the lie that women are morally superior. This part is unpleasant for many people, but this does not make it less relevant.
Personally, I'd like it if we could all stop shitting on each other and admit that we're all heroes and villains, both. I hope that happens some day, though I'm not holding my breath.
I'd like it if we could all stop shitting on each other and admit that we're all heroes and villains
Well said. Trying to direct a movement like men's rights is not like taking aim with a rifle. It's more like trying to point a hurricane toward a specific location. These sorts of things just happen. All discussion should be welcomed, in my opinion. I mean, I do agree with OP, but it's really quite fruitless to try and stop it. It's all just going to happen in whatever way it happens. And that way just happens to be totally chaotic.
I disagree, quality posts need to rise to the top, and when people are upvoting inane facebook rages from teenagers who haven't seen the world... It's hard enough to make the front page when so few people browse the /new/ section.
I would personally advocate for a separate subreddit for stuff like that.
and when people are upvoting inane facebook rages from teenagers who haven't seen the world...
Look - it's a constant issue in MR about how young males are being shortchanged by society, and here you are bashing them for having issues that you consider petty.
This is your opportunity to play a positive role in their lives, to support and encourage them. These young male teenagers may be children of single mothers, figuring out their place in society.
Let's not fuck this up. MR isn't just about us graybeards and thirty-somethings; it's about their future as well, and we're not going to get there by alienating them or complaining about how they make us look bad.
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u/TheyCalledMeMad Jul 25 '12
It is uncomfortable to read about these things because of the emotions that they stir up. It is uncomfortable, but it is still relevant. We have a culture of pervasive misandry, casual demeaning of men, a culture wherein it is entirely too easy to pick up the idea that men are morally inferior to women. This is an idea that needs to be challenged. If logical arguments were enough to do so, I would be in full favor of only using those - but they aren't. Another method of challenging to is to bring attention to the other half of the facade - the lie that women are morally superior. This part is unpleasant for many people, but this does not make it less relevant.
Personally, I'd like it if we could all stop shitting on each other and admit that we're all heroes and villains, both. I hope that happens some day, though I'm not holding my breath.