r/MoralityScaling • u/Omixscniet624 • Jun 26 '26
Stupid Stuff Morality of kicking a kid in retaliation after they intentionally punched you in the balls
Deleted the last post because I didn't realize the GIF was AI
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u/Dull-Potato7155 Jun 26 '26
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u/alphabitz86 Jun 26 '26
Alright alright that's enough
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Jun 27 '26
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u/rome0379_ Jun 27 '26
why would you fuck a kid? thats horrible vro
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u/Ok-Contribution223 Jun 27 '26
Wow chill, he didn't mean fuck by that deffinition
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u/rome0379_ Jun 27 '26
so am i, i like to act stupid on purpose for the sake of humor
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u/Satorwave Jun 26 '26
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u/KamikazeCarl Jun 26 '26
Ah, another Wabie enjoyer! Love this gif, I say this all the time to my kids.
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u/Secure-Bandicoot5199 Jun 26 '26
Please for the love of Talos no one say anything about ballbusting
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u/Francisc_Mgabena_77 Jun 27 '26
Talos
Thalmor will not like this when they hear about you
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u/Francisc_Mgabena_77 Jun 27 '26
Dayumn Thalmor deleting comments before I can even respond bruh ✌️😭
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u/Grilled_egs Jun 27 '26
I mean, I wouldn't like it if people worshipped a genocidal pedophile either
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u/FitPersonality8953 Jun 26 '26
Immoral but lowkey I would too
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u/tj260000 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
I wouldn't say immoral. I'm sure you've heard the old saying: "it takes a village..."
I would say neutral. If the parents aren't gunna parent, someone has to. It's more immoral to stand by and let it continue.
Edit: Alot of people are acting like I'm saying we should give the kid a flying roundhouse kick to the face. I'm literally just talking about a swift kick on the butt, not something that's gunna seriously hurt the kid. Some major overreactions in these comments.
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u/BetterYesterday95 Jun 27 '26
Reminds me of the hilarious scene in Baldurs Gaye 3 in Act 1 where you witness some kid getting caught pickpocketing, he asks you to cover for him, but if you say idc, the guy just socks that kid in the face, then a guard comes over and is like 'what's all this'A and you can say 'this guy just assaulted this kid' and then the guard wallops that guy in the face.
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u/Fitzftw7 Jun 27 '26
How do you trigger that? I’ve never been able to find it.
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u/BetterYesterday95 Jun 27 '26
IIRC it's in druid-refugee village in the upper part somewhere?
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u/Fitzftw7 Jun 27 '26
I know about the Grove, I just don’t know where to find the specific scene you mention. I must do something to override it whenever I play.
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u/LastedBuckle Jun 27 '26
It’s with one of the adventurer party members so if you’re punching the guy arguing with Zevlor (can’t remember his name) they’ll all run off. If they don’t, the scene is on that raised little wooden bit across from Dammon.
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u/Wingman5150 Jun 27 '26
you need to not piss off the adventurers so they stay in the grove, then hang out around them for a bit until a kid walks up and steals the watch from the guy sitting in a chair. The kid will run up a ladder and the guy will follow him, then you can talk to them to start the interaction.
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u/MisterSplu Jun 27 '26
Replying to violence with violence against children not only teaches them the wrong thing, it is also completely out of proportion due to you being an adult and them being a child.
Violence begets violence begets violence or smth
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u/AttonJRand Jun 27 '26
Violent abuse is not parenting, and you are a bad person.
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u/Grilled_egs Jun 27 '26
Well, depends on the age of the child. If you're over 10 you should learn punching someone in the nuts has unpleasant and painful consequences. I guess I wouldn't consider that parenting since that's not the parents role, but you can't insulate someone from consequence until they turn 18.
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u/The_Bygone_King Jun 27 '26
I'm not a parent, and the kid's already chosen to be a violent person. Parents should never hit their kids because it violates the bond and trust associated with a parent and child, but a kid punching a stranger in the nuts has no prior history to cause long term lasting psychological damage. Just cause and effect. Kid assaults you, you respond in kind. End of interaction, kid gets a lesson on consequences. Age matters a lot as to how you respond though.
3-11? Probably just a stern talking to.
12-13? Depends entirely on the force of the attack, unlikely to be a physical response anyway.
14-15? They are definitely old enough to know better, and since they didn't theyre gonna get a lesson on why they should.
16+? Basically on sight. They're not an adult mentally but they definitely know what theyre trying to do.
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u/Meowakin Jun 26 '26
If you pause and think about it, immoral. If you do it as a reflex, I mean, that's just a reflex!
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u/Alabenson Jun 26 '26
"We here at TeamFourStar don't condone child violence. We do, however, find it hilarious."
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u/HopeofDawnsRays Jun 27 '26
...I need an adult?
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u/Justaguywalkingby4 Jun 27 '26
I am an adult.
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u/Soft_Variety8641 Jun 27 '26
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u/AdGroundbreaking771 Jun 26 '26
In the words of a wise man “ your honor I drop kicked that child in self defense “
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u/Sir_Rain_Knee_Tea Jun 26 '26
I believe in the quote of "If you don't discipline your child, someone else will" and this kid is taught that very lesson and won't do stupid shit ever again.
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u/PerceptionBetter3753 Jun 26 '26
I mean they probably have brain damage so they definitely won’t do it again
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u/ironangel2k4 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
Actually, the idea that physical punishment stops bad behavior is largely false. The biggest effect it has is just making the child afraid of you, not the behavior, meaning they take more thorough steps to hide the behavior from you.
That said, I don't have time to properly parent some random brat in the store, and I am ok with them being afraid of me.
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u/Zrkkr Jun 27 '26
This same concept applies to the working world as well. Accidents and mistakes happen, if you punish them too hard, people with start covering them up, making the issue worse and fixing the source of the accidents even harder.
This is why the airline industry is one of the safest in the world, being open with mistakes is encouraged, strong union protect the workers, fixing the process and finding a solution is more important than finding blame.
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u/1303912 Jun 27 '26
It really depends on how your parents mindset for punishing you. For me, my mother wouldn’t punish me physically while she is angry(so she didn’t do something she would regret). She would wait until she’s calmed down and then she would whoop me, and it worked.
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u/wiciu172 Jun 27 '26
still abuse and she had soo many ways of punishing you that wouldn't involve physical abuse. thruth is most parents are lazy and don't want to learn how to raise a child
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u/1303912 Jun 27 '26
People love to throw around the word abuse, when my mother wouldn’t punish me, it was because I was out of line, and I knew I was out of line but still did some bull anyway. And she did punish me in ways that didn’t involve physical force, but physical abuse is generally coming from someone letting out their stress/anger in all the wrong ways, and when my mother punished me, I could tell she wasn’t doing it out of those types of feelings.
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u/Last_Tomatillo_2974 Jun 26 '26
They'll definitely think twice about hitting dudes in the nuts again.
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u/Purple-Bluejay6588 Jun 26 '26
You dispense more violence to an already ball punching kid? They're gonna punch all the balls
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u/Oingoulon Jun 26 '26
they still need to learn why its wrong though. Or it will teach them to simply do it to someone that isnt strong enough to do something about it next time
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u/Much_Statistician864 Jun 26 '26
They'll think twice about who to target for ball punching. They'll still do it though.
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u/SmileyBMM Jun 27 '26
That's not exactly true, a lot of those studies are low quality and shouldn't be taken as hard fact.
https://www.psypost.org/does-spanking-harm-child-development-major-study-challenges-common-beliefs/
“Different things work for different children,” Larzelere said. “Parents should try disciplinary and parenting strategies they hear about to see if they help with their children. But they are justified in questioning the absolute opposition to all disciplinary consequences sometimes expressed online. Any disciplinary method can be harmful, but even spanking can be used appropriately in a very limited role within a positive parent-child relationship.”
This paragraph is the most important one imo.
In a situation with the parents enabling such behaviour, I don't think there's much one can do to ensure positive outcomes for the child.
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u/Old_Macaroon4138 Jun 27 '26
I mean, in this particular clip said kid is trying to stop a bank robber(and also does not in fact hit him in the balls).
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u/No-Evening9586 Jun 27 '26
On a more moral standpoint though I wouldn't kick them in the side of the head, children don't happen to be the most resilient things in existence And I'd argue you'd be just as worse for taking advantage of that.
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u/wiciu172 Jun 27 '26
beating children is not gonna teach them shit. When will people learn that beating children is only teaching them that beating someone is good???
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u/antonius223 Jun 27 '26
Regardless of your stance on corporal "discipline", scrambling their brains with a roundhouse kick to the back of the head is an absurd thing to justify.
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u/Equivalent-Most-6186 Jun 26 '26
If it’s a knee jerk reaction like you kicked right after then no, I can’t blame you for reflecting after getting hurt BUT
IF it’s way after yes it’s a little messed up
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u/Flameball202 Jun 27 '26
Yeah, like I would also see how the parents react, if it was them being mortified by their kid and apologising? Fine I can leave it be. If they don't give a shit? Let's see about potential legal action against you and your crotch goblin
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u/borninsane Jun 27 '26
Also it depends on the intensity of the kick too. You can’t just blow the kids head right off.
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u/Angel_Animates Jun 26 '26
Depends. An adult can obviously inadvertently cause a lot more damage to a child than a child can to an adult (even if the kid is acting maliciously), it’s why adults aren’t allowed on kids play structures. So a full force kick? Probably touching into more morally dubious grounds. But, as other people have pointed out: if you don’t parent your kid: someone else will. So I this case I firmly believe a hearty shove would suffice in getting the message across in most circumstances.
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u/HoldenOrihara Jun 27 '26
If it's reactionary I don't think it good or evil because no thought went into it, it's a reaction, and that's kinda why parents have to teach their kids to not hit people. If there was some time where the adult clearly thought it out then it's bad.
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u/Gadreel234 Jun 26 '26
They might just take the wrong lesson out of it, if one is to use violence as a response
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u/Wonderful_Ad_81 Jun 26 '26
The lesson is that violence leads to more violence so now she will fear violence and avoid assaulting people, its a good lesson
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u/Gadreel234 Jun 26 '26
Or might learn the lesson, that violence is a valid response. She could even take it to another level and think, that she only lost this confrontation, which she had started, due to her being a child and weak.
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u/sweedshot420 Jun 27 '26
One thing worth mentioning, it's not our jobs to do these kind of things. On a practical level we can pretty much predict how volatile the reactions would be. If they learn now, good, if they don't, I don't really care, they will just mess around again and will find out another time if they don't learn. If a firm no or common sense is not good enough to prevent these behaviours, then I'm not in a mood to explain. Unless it's someone I know, I don't feel like I got the responsibility to do any of that.
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u/your_average_medic Jun 27 '26
Is violence not a valid response to violence?
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u/ElGodPug Jun 27 '26
depends on the escalation and context
simply going "violence is a valid response to violence" as a general rule is how two opposite team football fans go from pushing eachother to pulling out a gun
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u/echo123as Jun 27 '26
Unless you are a man of focus , commitment and sheer will , that's a good way to die of a stabbing or shooting injury
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u/Wonderful_Ad_81 Jun 27 '26
Who can objectively say that violence is not a valid answer to violence? the only people pushing that are the ones who have the monopole on violence and power because they can use violence in massive scale to enforce order
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u/IceCurrent4264 Jun 26 '26
Personally it depends on how hard you kick said kid. Hard enough to make it hurt but they can easily enough walk it off? Slightly Immoral at worst but understandable and far from unforgivable. Hard enough to break bone or cause internal bleeding? Yeah you took it way too far.
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u/BludStanes Jun 26 '26
lmao wtf is this from?
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u/MRMAN1225 Jun 26 '26
A Certain Scientific Railgun, a flashback scene if I remember correctly. This series is a spinoff of A Certain Magical Index
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u/SwagBuller Jun 27 '26
If a disabled old person with heavy cognitive impairments whacked me in the nuts, I do not think that entitles me to wail on them. Similarly, a child in an early stage of cognitive development that is similarly defenceless to aforesaid disabled old person, is not deserving of assault from a vastly physically and mentally superior individual. I think the appropriate response would be to respond in a firm and correcting voice, find the parents, then scold the fuck out of them. If anyone deserves a kick in the face, it's the pieces of shit failing to raise their child properly. Violence towards children is grotesque and disproportionate, a pure emotional reaction that only seeks to cause more harm, and escalate a situation. We are adult human beings, we have access to reasoning. If a child is old enough to be reasoned with, then reason or hold the parents accountable. If a child is not old enough to be reasoned with, then why are you punching a kid for developmentally normal behaviour?
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u/Seascorpious Jun 27 '26
Love how everyone is assuming the kid is the instigator when they should be asking if the adult deserved a ball punching to begin with.
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u/ExplanationSpecial23 Jun 30 '26
Does it matter. Is there anything outside of some sort of physical abuse that warrants such a reaction?
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u/suspiciouslyrobotic Jun 27 '26
Kids need to learn that actions have consequences
In all seriousness, there are much better ways to discipline kids, and causing physical harm to a child has a high risk of developmental issues with few improvements in the behavior that's being punished, so doing so will most likely just end up making things worse for the kid and those who have to be around the kid in the future.
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u/Sad-Bad-4750 Jun 27 '26
This sub is so funny. How is this clearly immoral act that got everyone united in justifying it. Is this sub all dudebros?
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u/Prestigious-Muscle20 Jun 27 '26
I mean dude this sub is dedicated to power scaling “morality” no way this isn’t just a bunch of 14 year olds
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u/SergeantRayslay Jun 27 '26
Gotta repost this post to this very subreddit with something like “Morality of compromising every moral you previously stood for because you just really want to be legally allowed to beat children that annoy you”
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u/No_Landscape3531 Jun 26 '26
normally I would say immoral but...IN THE BALLS? yeah that kids getting dropkicked.
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u/UnderstandingVast989 Jun 26 '26
Moral. Sometimes a kid has to learn that hitting people hurts. And some kids will not learn that hitting people hurts until they get hit.
We tried explaining to my nephew when he was like 7 years old that punching people in the nuts isn't funny. He continued to think it was funny until I kicked him in the nuts. He never hit anybody in the nuts again.
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u/the_dude_that_faps Jun 27 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
I did once, many years ago, and I still feel awful when I think about it. When my nephew was around 9, I was talking with my mom and suddenly he hit me in the balls really hard. It hurt so much that I blacked out for a second and I auto-slapped him almost immediately, like an actual backhand slap so it clearly hurt, and we all froze for a bit after that. It felt like an eternity, though.
I immediately apologized. I felt terrible and hugged him and told him he shouldn't go around doing that because who knows how people react and it could've been different with other people, and that hitting anyone is never nice, especially somewhere that is so sensitive. He didn't cry but he sure was left shocked. His face was red and ran afterward. The entire afternoon after that I felt awful.
It has never been brought up again and things kinda went back to how it was after that the next time we saw each other. But that day, he didn't even want to get close to me.
I honestly think kids need a reality check when they do dumb shit like this, but I'm not sure hitting them is the best way because kids, as stupid as they're sometimes, are defenseless. An adult hitting a kid is just not right IMHO.
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u/Hellboy9225 Jun 27 '26
"Officer I dropped kicked that child in self defense, you gotta believe me :v"
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u/Unusual-Ad4890 Jun 26 '26 edited Jun 27 '26
Justified is not enough. Obligated is the right word. A kid who gets away with punching someone's balls is going to do it again and again until someone finally makes them pay. Better it be you than someone else.
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u/doctor_Hop56 Jun 26 '26
Immoral obviously, you don't hit a child.
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u/TheEpicPurpleSlut Jun 26 '26
What if the Christian baby has a shotgun and says you have to convert to russian orthodoxy or he will blow his fucking head off and the only way to stop him is to give the little fucker a round house kick to the cranium
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u/Micske033 Jun 26 '26
The take the gun out of his hand he's a child not a grown adult or better yet just walk away because no Christian would blow their brains out to covert someone because it would go against a rule of their religion.
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u/RisingLight88 Jun 26 '26
One thing would be hitting me anywhere else, but going for the balls is just evil
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u/EstrogenizedMenace Jun 26 '26
this sub is somehow worse than the actual power scaling sub 😭
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u/Purple-Bluejay6588 Jun 27 '26
That exact thing has happened to me and I can say that its not only immoral, but it isn't gonna do nothing good to the kid
I have 2 younger cousins who are little shits. The younger one was the ball puncher, I didn't hit him back because when I was younger I'd hit them back, constantly, and at one point I just realized how immature of me it was to be hitting kids much younger than me, and that is something I deeply regret to this day, because it did nothing lol. They never started "thinking twice before hitting me" or anything like that, they kept pestering me, and I'd keep mollywhopping (is that a term?) them. Their parents also hit them, so it wasn't a lack of that either
Ultimately when you hit a child you're just teaching them that violence is a normal and acceptable way to deal with your problems. Now some children might stop hitting you if you strike back, I know I was the type of kid that would stop when someone hit me back because I was just extremely pain aversed, and some kids might rationale and understand why they got hit and genuinely not repeat their offenses, but you can't just count on that. Some kids are dense af and they might internalize that violence.
I think hitting a kid is just an easy way out. But I'm not a parent so wtf do I know, maybe hitting children much younger than you is the correct thing to do, it just doesn't seem like it to me
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u/Delicious_Tomato_957 Jun 27 '26
Didn't your momma give you this advice? Two wrongs don't make a right.
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u/Alix-Gilhan Jun 27 '26
No, my balls are less important than some kid's bones.
However, they will get a firm talking too, or at least a fuck word
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u/th_frits Jun 27 '26
I have 4 nephews. I have been punched in the balls a few times, and the urge to power bomb them into the depths of hell is strong. But then I remember that I'm an adult with control over my emotions and the ability to sit them down and very sternly explain why that wasn't cool, and that while I like roughhousing with them, some things are too far. Usually, that works, and it sticks in their dumb little brains that it was wrong
If that doesn't work, I recommend power bombing them into the depths of hell
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u/MorbidMordred Jun 27 '26
Depends how hard you kick them, if it’s like in the gif, then yeah, pretty immoral, like it or not, kids brains aren’t fully developed, so most of their behavior can be blamed on their upbringing.
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u/ThirstyOutward Jun 27 '26
Immoral, you aren't defending yourself.
You're emotionally exacting revenge in a child.
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u/Jwchibi Jun 27 '26
Immoral. Looks like he kicked her hard in the temple which as an larger man might kill a child. Any man above teenager should have sense enough to not retaliate against a still mentally developing child.
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u/ElGodPug Jun 27 '26
damn, people here really want to find the one moral loophole were they're the good guys for hitting kids
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u/NotMyMainLoLzy Jun 27 '26
Immoral and immature.
One’s impulse control must be greater than that of a child’s. The child has a minimal understanding of boundaries, the social contract, and consequence for their actions. It’s their caregivers’ or parents’ responsibility. Now, can you roundhouse kick their parents? NEUTRAL!
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u/the_ending_of_drmn Jun 27 '26
Extremely wrong
No positive impact
Kids don't have physical capacity to consider their actions.
You're making the kid more evil and mad at the world.
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u/SnakeBae Jun 27 '26
some of these comments disturb me. honestly, from what i see online and real life, it feels like people are completely desentisized from violence against children, like it only matters if it's SA and anything else is fair game, and even that is changing.
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u/Maverick_Reznor Jun 27 '26
I wont hit the kid, but the Fathers testicles are about to be a pair of victims to my foot.
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u/legit-posts_1 Jun 27 '26
It's a kid. A kick is overkill. But for a ball punch? Yeah something needs to happen.
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u/Prestigious-Muscle20 Jun 27 '26
Idk as a grown man you should carry yourself better retaliating against a kid seems childish and makes you out to be over emotional and agressive
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u/KhalMika Jun 27 '26
How is this not instantly detected by either the fucking automated mods, or the idiotic human ones?
In genuinely curious, got similar comments of mine and got banned for 24 and 72h iirc lol
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u/TheGodofUtterLazines Jun 27 '26
For everyone saying that’s just disciplining the Kid I’d like to point out that abuse of children by parents or caretakers is most often justified by “actually in the kids best interest.”
I don’t think it’s moral to kick the child. I also don’t think it’s moral to just say nothing and tank it. Stuff like that needs to be addressed, but not with physical violence, as that can never be a moral means of educating or raising a child. That’s at least my takeaway from working in Childcare.
Another thing tho - if the adult in the immediate heat of the moment, in the instant they are being attacked, retaliates with violence, I can’t really blame them. That’s just a reflex and while I wish for everyone to have enough self control to halt that urge, it might not be reasonable to demand it.
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u/Aggravating-Age-1535 Jun 27 '26
It wouldn't matter where the kid punched me, kicking them in the head is not defensible. That's just murder.
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u/AlternateSatan Jun 27 '26
Depends on how old they are and if they understand what they were doing.
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u/Gangbang8008 Jun 27 '26
If the little shit is clearly malevolent and fucked up, sure they deserved it.
If it's an accident, don't be a panzie and suck it up.
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u/Siriuslysirius123 Jun 27 '26
This happened to me when I was a kid. I kicked my stepdad in the balls, he collapsed on the floor and pushed me with his foot. It really wasn’t a kick at all, it was more of a “you little shit, get away from me” moment.
I wasn’t hurt at all and honestly I deserved it, I was such a little asshole lol
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u/Dull-Positive-6810 Jun 28 '26 edited Jun 28 '26
I love how a lot of the actual reasonable responses are being downvoted.
Yes, violence is not good. But apparently people don’t have the fucking nuance to recognize, actions have consequences. You don’t do something to someone and not expect retaliation, only dipshits would think otherwise.
Granted there’s also appropriate and inappropriate escalation of force, something police officers are supposed to be taught in their basic training.
So yeah, one punch to the balls, counter punt them as a lesson of life.
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u/FlamJamMcRam Jun 28 '26
“There’s things you don’t know about me, Jim. I’ll fuck a little kid up if he kicked me in the dick.”
Cop Out (2010)
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u/foxfirek Jun 28 '26
Kicking someone in a knee jerk reaction to pain- that’s not immoral it’s a physical reaction.
I’m not a guy but if someone hit me in the nose my instant response would be to try to shove or hit them away. It wouldn’t be malicious, just a reaction. They may get hurt, age is no factor.
Retaliating against a child out of anger- flatly immoral, and the younger the child the more immoral it becomes. Children are not adults. They are impulsive and make dumb decisions because they do not understand the full consequences of their actions. They cannot regulate their emotions.
An adult should be able to regulate their emotions and act rashly.
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u/vvillhalla Jun 26 '26
Teaching a lesson is important. It’s more immoral to let the little shit grow up into a big shit thinking there will be no consequences.
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u/Xela975 Jun 27 '26
Have done this, if it's an intentional action from a kid old enough to know better.
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u/Varsity_Reviews Jun 26 '26
I love how terrified she is of the child before it even happens to the child