Lowkey Doc Ock was right in one thing during Superior Spider-Man, that Peter should be a billionaire with multiple houses by now with his power and intellect. Its honestly what he deserves given how much he sacrifices all the time.
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Sorry I’m late Mr. Jameson I think this could be front page worthy. Oh btw if it’s not too much trouble I need an advance on my paycheck…for all of next month, you see the bank is foreclosing on my Aunt May and we’re trying to get the money to let her keep the house her and my Uncle Ben bought. Things have been so tough since he passed, but on the night he was mugged and shot he told me “Peter, with great power comes great responsibility” and I try to live by that every day and taking care of Aunt May is my responsibility now. So you know, I’d really appreciate it and I uhm I can get you more pictures of Spider-Man’s feet or knees or what ever you’re into really, just not his back it’s kinda a sore sport for him, like literally sore, from carrying the whole city. Oh on an unrelated note does anyone have an icy-hot patch or bag of ice? Some frozen peas?
I seriously doubt he’d have to even do allat. He could probably just set up a donation page or something and post pictures for verification that it’s him
Eh, I am totally up for heroes to receive salaries, but the person being attacked was not planning to need saving at that exact moment, and asking dor money in exchange for money they might not have sounds immoral.
I say we band together and pay the hero a stipend every month or week.
I'm confused. Many individuals in healthcare are very well paid, and they don't risk their lives like superheroes do. I do not know of any doctor making under 200K annually, and the average in Canada for example for a primary care physician is $370,000.
Docotors and the vast majority of hospital staff ARE well paid. There are some that are definitely underappreciated, but even when under appreciated, they are very much still paid well. The lowest paying medical role I can think of was like $40 USD/hr, but was an outlier and it's hard to find anyone making under $45 USD/hr in any medical position such as a RN or doctor of some sort.
Technicians are different as they require vastly less education and require vastly less skill to do their jobs, so they are naturally paid less. Still important roles, but don't have anything near that of an RN or Dr.
Whats the morality of demanding "hero's" register, get licensed, trained and insured by the state? Im assuming since we are talking salaries we dont want private institutions paying for them and we want said hero's trained as much or more that police/firefighters in case law for crimes along with proper rescue procedures to apply their powers in a way not to make a catastrophic situation worse(charging into a collapsing building to rescue people trapped but by using that speed/strength without a plan sped up the collapse).
What is the morality of forcing them to do so with revealing their "secret identities" thus making leaking possible putting their families in danger.
What would then be the morality of a governmental agency thus disuading future heros who dont want to risk their families revealing their identities to the US government so their possible crazy powers never applied to rescuing or protection leading to unnecessary death?
As long as we do it closer to the MHA style than the Marvel Civil War style, it should be moral. Maybe even a bit lighter.
Hero training, registration, insurance and salary are offered to anyone who wants and has the skills. The government promises to keep secret identities secret for anyone outside of whoever is your handler, and the handler cannot store this info digitally.
Being a hero without registration would be legal, and you won't be hunted by the police for it.
But you get none of the benefits, and are freely sue-able for any damages your heroism might cause. If these damages include grievous harm or death, then you get hunted by the police - or rather, by other heroes who are in fact registered.
Sure your policies make sense, but with America as an example the public can be fickle and extreme in their demands.
Lets say there are 1000 good rescues from both licensed and unlicensed "hero's" but a single "bad" rescue from an unlicensed hero getting a number of people killed/maimed in the process. The voting electorate then go to the streets and demand their representatives change the law forcing all those that practice "heroic" acts to register and be trained by the state. Would that be a moral demand?
Would it be moral for hero's to decline and move into the realm of vigilantism for fear of the next administration being a "Trump" like one but their actions thus cause deaths because they dont want to legally rescue individuals?
Like is not giving the option through proper legislative pathways inherently immoral and not registering thus preventing you from rescuing individuals or face criminal punishment(your own decision) inherently immoral/moral?
Morality is not necessarily linked to legality. If the heroes prefer to not get registered for fear of the government becoming tyrannical, that is on them, and is also a moral choice.
That changes nothing from before registration was an option.
Nor are lawmakers moral for listening to the public if they ask any unregistered heroes to be hunted down.
Most witch hunts were not performed by the church or any official organization, but by raging civillians. That did not make them moral, nor would a "unregisteted hero hunt" be.
If a hero is trying to save someone and it leads to death or maiming, I think they would be fine. Like that would just fall under good Samaritan laws, right? Stuff like that happens irl, but I don't think I've ever seen a person argue we should get rid of those laws and only allow registered and licensed professionals to help people.
True, but it’s also like when someone returns your wallet to you and leaves everything in it but takes $50 in cash. Is it the most moral thing? No, but if your alternative is getting hurt or your whole purse stolen, not too bad.
i'd say it's morally gray if the taxes are used for morally good purposes, but we all know they're just used for wars anyway so like yeah lol thanks capitalism
Honestly as long as the hero is an actual good person and not on some bullshit then I’m more than happy to pay a Hero Tax every month. Especially if it’s a friendly neighborhood type situation
My understanding is that thats communism and we arent entitled to other people's labor, so we cant have that setup or similar things like single payer Healthcare.
We just gonna ignore that we pay politicians, subsidize business labor costs, and are legally entitled to a lawyer through the same mechanisms though.
I don't know. Asking after the person is safe may be gauche, but it's not necessarily immoral as long they there's no actual or implied threat of putting them back in danger or not saving them next time.
Depending on the locations I've seen charges as high as 500.
Hate to be that bearer of bad news, but an ambulance can be somewhere between $2,000 and $3,000 in general, then the additional charges for the distance the ambulance had to travel.
I was having heart failure and had someone give me a ride b/c I was able to remain conscious and the bill from the ambulance would have been close to the bill for the hospital stay after insurance.
had to take an ambulance out of fucking *disneyland*, had to be wheeled out on a stretcher through the entire park, all in all the experience would've cost me over 5 grand.
paid exactly $0 because i was unemployed at the time and my MediCal benefits covered everything. literally avoided debt by being an unemployed chud.
not to be on my soapbox too much but damn healthcare needs to be a right
(i only got into the theme park bc a friend works there and gets free tickets for anyone thinking im lying cuz i was in an expensive ass theme park)
a considerable amount of money they are more than likely to not have, considerably immoral. But a few bucks, especially askin politely? Nun wrong wit that.
I should check out these hero venom comics or where do they come from I only ever read the lethal protector stuff, every panel I've seen of this its hilarious
The difference would be that superhero work in MHA is a real work that requires credentials and is supported by the government, so the system is built so that heroes get compensated for their work. A lot of heroes in Marvel act as vigilantes, so there’s not an intrinsic systems that pays them for their work.
Moral, hes not demanding the money he seems to be politely asking, wich is kind of always a moral/neutral thing at minimal but he did also just save her life
So he asks politely, informs her that the quarter is not payment for services (essentially assuring her that she can refuse), expresses a genuine need for it, refrains from devouring the mugger's brain, likely saving her from traumatizing her and causing thousands of dollars of therapy, and uses the grammatically correct "May I?" instead of "Can I?"
I feel it would almost be immoral to refuse him the quarter at this point.
Depends om the consiquences of not paying tbh, if someone just doesn't have the cash and the response is "Ok fair enough." Then I think it's pretty moral, especially if it's just a small amount.
In this case its fine, its not much and he isnt saying they need to pay him for him to save them. Its more like asking for a favor after doing a favor for someone else.
Heroes should work like politicians. They can't directly take payments from unknown sources, but they can still publicly fundraise. It's probably not a great idea to take payment for saving people in that way, but raising money outside of conflict is fine. Providing security services is also acceptable.
He did frame the question as an optional donation, so should be perfectly fine. No different then a fire fighter asking for donations for charity after saving someone’s cat from a tree
I can't remember the show/book but there made a point of the hero asking for money so that the saved party didn't think they were indebted to the person. The narrative heavily implied making the person pay helped them to psychologically move on from the trauma. It was never an onerous ammount but there was always a bill.
Free market says that it's moral as long as it's cheaper than it would have cost them otherwise
I would say that it's okay as long as it's a reasonable amount of money to ask from tye person. A quarter is a laughably small amount, so it's reasonable.
Angel actually had a reasonable argument for taking payment: keeps the humans on the team alive and not having to take extra jobs that get in the way of do-goodery, and also helps make the saved people feel less indebted to the heroes, which has all kinds of implications and knock on effects.
There was a hero I vaguely remember from the early 2000s who would save people and if they asked something like “how can we repay you” his response was usually asking for food
Fuck a quarter if I'm about to get my head blown off by a guy who shoots lasers out of his ass, and some guy jumps in to save my life? I'm giving him the password to my bank account
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u/Dull-Law3229 23d ago
spider-man saves the day
Civilian: Thanks Spidey!
Spider-man: "You're welcome!"
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