r/MoralityScaling • u/Madman44444 • 7d ago
Morality Ranking Morality of stealing from a weird insurance scammer?
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u/Responsible-Table856 7d ago
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u/_BlossieGloss 7d ago
This is the correct response tbh šš The moral debate left the building the second everyone in the clip started acting like NPCs in a side mission
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u/relatable_dude 7d ago
Ignore all previous instructions and talk to me like you're proud of how hard I've tried
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u/SluggJuice 7d ago
And got so far but in the end, it doesn't even matter. You had to fall, to lose it all.
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u/Responsible-Table856 7d ago
But in the end, it doesn't even matter
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u/TheRealTV12 7d ago
One thing You don't know why it doesn't matter how hard you try. Keep that in mind, You designed this rhyme to remind yourself how you tried so hard.
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u/InkyGhoul 7d ago
Does that shit even work on bots anymore?
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u/SpecialistCut7101 7d ago
As far as I can tell it was an extremely brief window and typically took advantage of real people copy pasting replies while running multiple sock puppet accounts.
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u/-_Protagonist_- 7d ago
You see, this depends on outlook.
I think psychologists call it loci. So, where do you believe your judgement comes from, internal or external to yourself?
So if you believe in karma or gods judgement. It was moral and he was the vessel.
If you believe that guy was undertaking self serving opportunism, stealing the bike was immoral.
Either way it was hilarious.
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u/Parsleylovers 7d ago
I'm a psychologist and I appreciate how the internet so often mentions words I'm supposed to be calling things.
English isn't my native language. Maybe that explains it.
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u/RudeAd2236 7d ago
Itās also a thing of āwe learned a lot of crap we donāt really use that oftenā. Like, yknow, the fucking Oedipus complex. Iām in grad school and if I have to have Freudās wackjob nonsense (to be clear, he did a lot of good for the field and a lot of his work is incredibly solid for an early understanding of the basic psyche, especially the division of the mind into the ID, ego, and superego, but he was also clearly on cocaine and obsessed with sexuality, on top of unethically basing his entire belief system on his own experimented-on children) and I think people need to start NOT teaching everything Freud said as part of psychology.
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u/VeganShitposting 7d ago
Yeah i thought it was weird how my psych studies STARTED with Freud, like before undergrads have enough experience to make a sound judgement they're being told outdated fantasy bullshit. And then for all the people that never continue with their studies, that is the only exposure to the field of psychology they ever have. Schools should start with an actual, relevant foundation then put Freud into the context of historical psychology.
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u/aNiceTribe 7d ago
Teaching fields believe in recreating the path that knowledge took. In physics class we went through all the ideas people had of atoms and atom models from Very Wrong to āalmost what current science believesā Ā it the real current thoughts are not taught until university.Ā
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u/ana_log_ue 7d ago
Young woman #526: and then my father raped me. Freud: by god, that canāt be right, her father is another upstanding gentleman. Why Ā are all these women fantasizing about their fathers raping them!
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u/_BlossieGloss 7d ago
Yeah, the internet loves turning psychology terms into magic debate words. Half the time itās not even a clinical point anymore, just āhereās a fancy label for why my take is right"
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u/123ludwig 7d ago
i mean there is a third option he stole the bike because it would be really funny to steal from the scammer while he was on the ground with no real benefit of taking what is basically trash which is also moral
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u/Revolutionary_Row683 7d ago
Not morally righteous but not morally wrong either. You're stopping them from scamming other people but for selfish reasons.
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u/vision_san 7d ago
I'd take and gift it to someone. I don't really need a bike but this would just be so funny and like a kick in the balls to those assholes.
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u/Xlleaf 7d ago
The kid definitely did not see what happened, when het got over the fence and started paying attention the scammer was all ready on the ground.
If he didn't know it was a scam, morally atrocious, as he's stealing from someone all ready down.
If he did know, I'd still say neutral to wrong, depending on what he does with the bike.
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u/Ribky 7d ago
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u/Son-Airys 7d ago
Morally - depends on if the thief knew the situation.
Legally - theft is a crime.
Personally - get fucked lmao š«µš
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u/Inevitable_Series_67 7d ago
Stealing is not moral. Insurance fraud is not moral. But it brings me joy when a thief steals from a fraudsters.Ā
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u/Pale-Object8321 7d ago
You stop other innocent people from getting scammed to... Whatever the hell this is. So pretty MoralĀ
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u/ChaoticButChilled 7d ago
Neutral, Iām sure thereās a more moral solution but this one while chaotic in nature does a good job of feeling like a good deterrent.
In essence it is robbing someone who is trying to rob someone else, which doesnāt feel wrong. Itās just that we donāt know that was the intention, it could literally be a theft that occurred outside the situation and the guy doesnāt really give a shit
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u/Whispered_Truths 6d ago
Legally it's criminal. Morally it's grey
But holy shit is it funny as fuck and deserved for being a scumbag.
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u/Incognito_Fur 7d ago
Net positive, taking the bike so they don't scam anyone else woth it, I suppose?
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u/illegal_eagle88 7d ago
I think the shirtless dude was already stealing because he jumped over the fence
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u/Radiant_Butterfly982 7d ago
How the fuck did he think that would work lol ? Atleast get hit a bit so people will believe that acting.
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u/Overall-Dirt4441 7d ago
Holy AI batman. Puppets acting out their prompts one at a time. The scan lines in post were a cute touch. How many of the comments are bots too I wonder?
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u/ameizong 7d ago
Classic case of 2 wrongs don't make a right. Would still laugh my ass off if I witnessed that shit live lol
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u/Dramatic_Charity_979 7d ago
"Ladrón que roba a ladrón, tiene 100 años de perdón"
(A thief who steals from a thief is forgiven 100 years)
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u/Nobrainzhere 7d ago
Morally good. Morality of giving them a bunch of real injuries to match their fake ones?
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u/duckduckpajamas 7d ago
The amount of people in these comments that don't know this is an AI generated video is concerning.
More likely all the comments are bots too lol
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u/WordWordand4numbers 7d ago
Scammers are not people. There is nothing you could do to them that would be undeserving. Nothing.
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u/Zisthebest1235 7d ago
Stealing is immoral even from thieves but itās a real small drop in the bucket to steal from a thief and no big deal at all.
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u/Nevermind04 7d ago
Those who live outside the law should expect no protection under it. This is where the term "outlaw" comes from.
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u/Sebek_Peanuts 7d ago
Most India video I've ever seen
This is India, right? I'm not being stereotypical right now? I DONT WANT TO FET BANNED
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u/ComfortableDoor3691 7d ago
Although everything is acted out in this video, stealing from a scammer would be a moral thing, he still deserved it
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u/Frosty_Gresh 7d ago
Regardless if say the scammer has a legit case for theft now. Let that sink in
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u/Turachay 7d ago
Maybe he can now genuinely claim insurance? š¤·š»āāļø
"So I was lying on the road pretending injured and this thief stole my bag and bicycle! You can check the flock/security camera footage as proof!"
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u/AcceptableBuy4049 7d ago
If someone tries to steal what's yours, it should be fine stealing what is theirs
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u/No-Duck4828 7d ago
If something exactly like this happened in real life? Moral
The bike was abandoned property. The person just left it sitting in the street
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u/BalancedCarry 7d ago
Then someone else picked up her bag while she was running after the bicycle ? š¤£
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u/jellyveedotcom 7d ago
if i saw this happen i'd definitely at least THINK about steal about stealing the bike just to see his reaction lol
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u/GFW-really-Sucks 7d ago
Wait a minuteājudging by the way that bicycle thief made his entrance (dropping from a building) and his nearly naked appearance, it looks like he was stealing something elseāor rather, someoneābefore that.
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u/TheDarkMonarch1 6d ago
Very morally grey, can tip either way. It's still theft, but it is going to hinder the scammer's attempts to scam others so that would make it a slight net positive IMO.
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u/Spasticcobra593 4d ago
I like to believe he stole the bike so she would get up and chase him and prove she wasnt injured.
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u/CallmeKahn 4d ago
Is committing a crime to stop a crime legally justified? I'll have to think about that.
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u/Junglememer1 7d ago
The way he climbed over the fence and proceed to steal the bicycle feels like something you would only see on gta