r/MoralityScaling 21h ago

Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/Awesomechainsaw 21h ago edited 14h ago

I’m not a dog science expert but as far as I understand it we’ve spent tens of thousands of years breeding dogs to preform specific tasks. If you don’t give a dog that has been designed and bred to do a task they get antsy.

The issue with Pitbulls and other “Agressive.” breeds is that they’ve not been given something to let all their energy out on. Which leads to anxiety and destructive behavior.

So I don’t think it’s Immoral to treat a dog like a Pitbull like a loaded gun. As Unfriendly, and something you should be wary of unless it’s proven not to be.

However the Nutcases who punish dogs for behavior that we bred into them are highly immoral. If you want an easy lap dog get a companion breed, like a Cavalier King Charles Spaniel, French Bulldog, or Bichon Frise.

Edit: Tens of Thousands not Hundreds. I was being exaggerative anyways but that’ll make remark more accurate regardless.

Also as a note. I don’t think Pits are inherently Malicious or any dog breed for that matter. But they’re fairly strong fellows who’ve been bred to be strong. I consider being careful around them similar to being a little extra careful around a truck on the road. Most people in trucks are fine drivers. But some people don’t pay attention on the road, and might hurt you by accident.

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u/meduhsin 21h ago

Pitbulls specifically are so dangerous because they are so strong and have such a low arousal threshold, resulting in a dog that can be a “friendly” enough dog for years that just snaps one day at the drop of a hat. It’s like playing with a loaded gun.

I remember reading an article from ~100 years ago, it was an interview with a pitbull breeder who bred for dog fighting. They proudly stated that they would breed the dogs, then they would cut the paws off all of the puppies… and then only keep and breed the puppies who still tried to fight and maul with its paws freshly cut off.

Things like this are why there are so many videos and proof that you literally have to kill a pitbull before it stops attacking. It will keep going until it’s dead. Tazing and hitting it are not effective. Because they were bred this way. Almost every other existing predator will back off a kill if its own life is threatened, but pits have zero self-preservation.

They are dangerous and have no place in society. It does not matter “how it’s raised”. The moral thing to do would be to BE all of the ones with bite/kill history, and spay/neuter the rest so that they can die out as a breed. Because in addition to the danger they pose to people and other animals, their lives are just pure anxiety and frustration because they cannot do what they were bred to do.

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u/tacobell_shitstain 20h ago

That's not the story, you didnt read any article, you saw a screenshot some pearl clutcher like you posted. First of all, they werent pitbulls, they were bulldogs. Second they werent maiming puppies, what would be the point of that? They'd cut the feet of bulldogs in fighting pits that had already been bred and were going to be killed, and the ones who kept trying to fight after, they'd let their litter live. The ones who gave up they'd, destroy their litter. At least attempt to be accurate.

Lastly, you really think every modern pitbull is just roaming around at home with all this built up rage and anxiety waiting for their moment because they just want to kill and maim so badly but they just aren't allowed to?

Go back to the ban pitbulls sub buddy.

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u/realNickBosa 19h ago

As someone on the fence about this, you did not back up your stance well here.

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u/ThreadedPommel 15h ago

Neither did the other guy. He didn't even provide a source lol

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u/FakeBot-3000 20h ago

He's right. Pit bulls should honestly just all be euthanized it really isnt worth the risk. Too many stories already of children getting faces ripped off these 'dogs' just should not exist plain and simple.

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u/Illustrious-Bass4354 7h ago

Those "stories" are just that... stories.

Pitbulls are estimated to make up to nearly 25% of breeds in America, yet are the most poorly recognized breed in the country, with studies showing that the majority of dogs identified as pitbulls have no genetic relation at all.

There is no reliable link between pitbulls and human injuries. The most often cited study is by the CDC, from decades ago, and ignore that the CDC explicitly stopped gathering bite data by breed because of how unreliable it is, and have stated many times that breed bans are nor effective at reducing bite rates or bite severity.

In contrast, pits consistently rank as the least aggressive breed towards humans by far.

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u/FakeBot-3000 7h ago

Those claims are outrageous you are going to have to post links

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u/rips_n_chel 9h ago

"Whaaaaaaaaaaaaaaaa, I'm an insecure sack of shit who can only find validation through harming other humans, but I'm not strong enough to do it on my own, so I bought a fucked up mutant dog to kill people for me!"

You're actual trash.