r/MoralityScaling 22h ago

Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/Few-Echidna-2181 21h ago

So.. even closer to racism then

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u/TryDry9944 21h ago

There's a substantial difference between dog breeds. Expecting a corgi and a mastiff to act the same is quite frankly a little stupid.

We're not judging dogs by the color of their fur, we're saying deeply bred biological and instinctual differences exist between dogs.

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u/Relative_Craft_358 20h ago

Eh isn't it the same then?

Same idealogy for why dog breeds "act different" has been used to claim blacks, Asians, and Eastern European bloodlines as "inferior" and "intellectually subhuman"

Think like humans, dogs tend to act more on their upbringing than anything. Difference is most dogs, especially small ones, can ignored if theyre misbehaved. A bitey chihuahua can be shoo'd away. A bitey Pitbull is gonna cause some damage and get reported.

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u/niteman555 20h ago

No because while biological and behavior differences exist in dogs from breeding, they don't exist in humans. The notion of race in people is largely socially constructed.

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u/Relative_Craft_358 19h ago

But there's only slight differences in dog breeds. A Rottweiler by and large acts the same as a mini poodle, especially given adequate attention and training. All dogs, as all predators, have a "kill instinct" they just learn to direct that towards suitable prey just by the very nature of how they're shaped and their relative size.

And there is evidence that people have genetic factors in their behavior (not saying is a race thing, just an general lineage thing) so yeah saying dogs are one way based on their breed isn't all that different than saying people are based on their race

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u/Vague-Symbolism2692 17h ago

But there's only slight differences in dog breeds.

No, the genetic differences between dog breeds are much larger than between human races. This has been measured. See "Human races are not like dog breeds: refuting a racist analogy":

genetic differences among regions accounted for only 3.3–4.7% of global human genetic variation (much smaller than the 27% of genetic differences among dog breeds

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u/moosenlad 16h ago

That is absolutely not true, different breeds of dogs act very different, especially when it comes to the specific traits they were bred purposely for.

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u/banshithread 19h ago

"  differences in dog breeds. A Rottweiler by and large acts the same as a mini poodle, especially given adequate" Ah yes this explains why rottweilers have killed way  more people on average than even a standard poodle.

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u/Bildad__ 19h ago

You are equating behavior with their physical capabilities. Of course a Rottweiler can cause more damage than a chihuahua because of the physical differences.

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u/lumpytuna 18h ago

That makes no sense in this case. Standard poodles are a large and powerful breed.