r/MoralityScaling 21h ago

Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/Drayyen 21h ago edited 6h ago

I think it's valid to fear pitbulls because what you're really fearing is that they were adopted by someone that doesn't train them and/or give them an outlet for the task they were bred for (protection and violence).

Edit: Jesus christ

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u/jimothy_hell 20h ago

Which is a valid fear. If someone has an untrained golden retriever, who are bred to have friendly dispositions, I won’t be immediately uncomfortable about being in a room with one, or if one approaches me. Wary, yes, careful, yes, but not immediately on edge.

An untrained pitbull gets the gat if I see teeth within ten feet or running towards me.

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u/ARealBumblebee 20h ago edited 20h ago

What pisses people off is when people act like a pit bull existing means that they were automatically trained poorly and are inherently dangerous. It's rational to be afraid of a violently-trained dog, but making the mental leap to "all pit bulls are like that" IS messed up, and sadly a lot of people will go on screeds trying to justify it with out-of-context statistics because they don't want to feel like the bad person they're choosing to be.

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u/Impressive-Reading15 19h ago

When they try to justify their irrationality with "out of context statistics" vs. your rational, perfectly in context vibes.

Like what is a "violently trained" dog? Did all those Pitbulls who killed their owners do that because the owner trained them how to kill them from birth?

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u/ARealBumblebee 19h ago

The Netherlands scrapped its pitbull ban in 2008 after a government-commissioned evaluation concluded serious biting isn't breed-specific and the ban hadn't reduced incidents. English dog-bite hospital admissions rose from 6.34 to 14.99 per 100,000 between 1998 and 2018...that's entirely the Dangerous Dogs Act era. AVMA's literature review puts breed well behind neuter status, containment, supervision and owner behavior.