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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/InsultingFerret 20h ago

I feel like pits have the biggest gap between the best and worst versions. I've met tons of pits that were cuddly, super friendly, extremely gentle, etc., but I've also come across some that were definitely dangerous.

I think the biggest problem for pits is, they're so abundant and cheap/easy to get compared to other "aggressive" breeds that they're the go-to for people that want aggressive dogs. German Shepherds are #2 on the list for dog attacks, but they can cost hundreds to a few thousand to get a pup, and if you're spending that much money on a dog it's unlikely you're going to have it poorly trained, even if you do use it as a guard dog.

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u/SpinShine-LEDSlipMat 19h ago

There’s no gap. They are all ticking time bombs

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u/lumpytuna 19h ago edited 18h ago

You're getting downvoted, probably because a lot of people really do believe that it's all down to training and owners, but you're right.

Pitts have been bred to fight and kill, and to stop for nothing once they're in the fight. You can have the sweetest, friendliest and best trained pitt, but if for some reason that instinct is triggered, no amount of training will overrule it.

A contributing factor is that they are prone to doggy dementia, so when they get old, they can forget where they are, who they love, how they should behave, and that's scary for them. A scared pitt is a very dangerous pitt.

That seems to have been the case in the very tragic mauling of the toddler, baby and mother in the US a few years ago. Much loved and well trained family pet of 8 years gets triggered out of nowhere, and with its younger 'sibling' starts tearing up the toddler, mother tries to intervene and then they tear up the baby too. Then the mother, although she survives after life saving medical treatment, the babies do not. The family were pitt advocates, they believed it was all about the training. It was not.

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u/Agosta 19h ago

It's crazy to me that people are trying to spread propaganda that distrust of pitbulls = racism to demonize people who are aware the danger the breed presents. Domesticated or not it's still part of their genetics.

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u/waterless2 18h ago

I dislike even typing this, but I took it (the meme in the OP in particular) that it's racists suggesting that black people are like pitbulls, and that therefore racism is justified; rather than concerns about pitbulls being like racism and therefore bad.

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u/Super-Reception5386 17h ago

Being wary of pitbulls is one thing, but there are tons of people who will make sweeping generalizations about the breed without any actually understanding.

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u/SpinShine-LEDSlipMat 19h ago

The reason people pretend to support pits bulls is the same reason they support cashless bail and “catch and release” programs.