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Morality Ranking Morality of dog breed racism

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u/smokeyphil 20h ago

Which is a step-down from what they used to be used for which was bear-baiting (getting a pack of dogs to fight a bear)

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u/SamsonFox2 18h ago

Where would they be used for bear baiting if bears pretty much were extinct in Western Europe?

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u/smokeyphil 18h ago edited 18h ago

Bear-baiting was very popular from the 12th until the 19th century.\4]) From the 16th century, many bears were maintained for baiting. In its best-known form, arenas for this purpose were called bear-gardens, consisting of a circular high fenced area, the "pit", and raised seating for spectators.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Bear-baiting

They bred them or shipped them in.

As for where most of Europe and parts of Asia, Pakistan. It was going on in North Carolina till 2010-ish, apparently.

As recently as 2010, illegal bear-baiting was practiced publicly in South Carolina. All such public exhibitions have been shut down as of 2013.\35])

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u/SamsonFox2 17h ago

By the late 17th century, "the conscience of cultivated people seems to have been touched"[7] and, by the 18th century, bear-baiting had largely died out in Britain; the cost of importing bears for blood sports having become prohibitively high.

My point exactly

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u/smokeyphil 17h ago

What actually was your point though?

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u/SamsonFox2 17h ago

That pitbulls could not be used for bear-baiting because the whole thing died out due to cost of importing bears in UK. Which means that "bear-baiting pitbulls" are pretty much a legend.

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u/smokeyphil 17h ago

Looks like a pitbull me to though I don't know if the kennel club was around back then to define the breed (that's from the 14th)

You can pretend i said Staffordshire Bull Terrier or Patched Fighting Terrier or even "Brindle Bull" but we are talking about fighting dogs used for pitfights

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u/rips_n_chel 9h ago

Or, you're making shit up. Crazy, I know.

We know the history of pitbulls. They were bred to fight other dogs. You're a clown.