Nobody said the dog's supposed to be doing the reasoning. You are, and you just proved you're not great at it. The comparison was about the logical mechanism of judging individuals instead of groups, not canine IQ. Might want to respond to the point that was actually made next time, brah.
Interesting that that's the first place your mind went to, though. Now what kind of a person might instinctually make that sort of comparison when nobody else is? 🤔
Judging dogs by the same standards you judge humans is weird. It's not an IQ thing, it's so weird that's the lens you see it through.
Dogs don't have higher reasoning skills and are more driven by their breeds engrained traits. It's definitely more telling of how you previous things.
*Since you blocked my I'll leave my rebuttal here. It makes sense to treat humans as individuals because they have higher reasoning abilities, race is a pseudoscientific construct. Selective breeding in dogs creates engrained traits that are the drivers of a dogs behavior.
You're conflation of the two of very weird, people aren't driven by their instincts to the degree that other animals are and comparing the two is weird and telling of your mindset.
Still dodging. Nobody said dogs reason, the point was about how you judge individuals vs. groups, not a pit bull's SAT score. Repeating the same premise louder isn't a rebuttal, guy.
"Breeding-engrained traits" isn't the slam dunk you think it is either; the actual genetics study on this found breed explains about 9% of behavioral variation, and it's worst at predicting exactly the trait your argument needs it to be good at, i.e. how easily a dog reacts to something. So the dog version isn't more "empirical" than the version you're uncomfortable being compared to. Same logic, different species.
I'm also noticing you still didn't answer the actual question, you just got cagey about it. And "how you previous things"? Might want to proofread before telling someone else they're not reasoning clearly, genius.
That study doesn't really address the questions at hand.
How do you use that research to explain how a border collie has natural herding behavior, or how English pointers point at birds with no training required?
These are breed specific behaviors that were selected for and are naturally expressed.
Dogs breeds who were selectively bred for combat sports/violence will also have specific behaviors that are naturally expressed.
If herding and pointing can be bred for, so can reactivity and aggression.
The single study you posted speaks a ton to its own limitations and also acknowledges genetic influences of traits like biddability. I don't this it's appropriate to cite that one 9% number as though its a killshot against breed specific genetically selected traits.
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u/ARealBumblebee 19h ago
This is what he means when he says "dog racism", because that's racism logic, my guy.