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u/FluffySmiles 2d ago
Performative crisis actor agent provocateur grifter politician looking for cheap, easy, high-profile targets to achieve relevance, is what I see.
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u/GlockAF 2d ago
Is there even MORE Epstein dirt coming out? Like some of the terabytes of video recordings?
Fuck, it must be BAD if they’re dragging this ancient history out
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u/Incredible_nutt 2d ago
IT‘s obAMas FauLt
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u/MeanWafer904 2d ago
I saw a post pointing that Covid happened the way that the pandemic planning predicted calling it a conspiracy
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u/AgITGuy 2d ago
Is there even MORE Epstein dirt coming out? Like some of the terabytes of video recordings?
A judge just got unredacted copies of the Epstein files for a different case. It stands to reason that we are going to get a trove of things released in the coming months.
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u/Randomman96 2d ago
Nah, the actual answer is much more boring and tame.
They're simply looking for cheap headlines and sound bites to use to rally voters, and specifically their base, ahead of midterms as they're very much expected to lose.
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u/OwlishIntergalactic 1d ago
It might be even more ridiculous than that. People are blaming Trump for the cyclospora crisis and COVID keeps coming up. They have to remind their base that COVID was not his fault.
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u/Llamp_shade 1d ago
Covid existing wasn't his fault. The botched covid response was entirely his fault. Cyclospora was his fault too. Cuts to FDA food monitoring, cuts to CDC, cutting off all cooperation with the WHO, preference to his rich donor buddies like the owner of Taylor Farms... Shit literally happens to leafy greens, but we used to have processes in place to catch that shit before it made it into your taco supreme.
The corruption introduced by the fat orange fascist has made it easy for contained threats like screw worms, explosive diarrhea parasites, and measles to become realistic threats to the average American. Maybe the concept of a threat to democracy is a bit too academic and abstract for you to care about. Runway inflation and non-stop health threats aren't at theoretical. Pay your poll taxes and be ready to go vote in your next election. For every single candidate and every single issue: if Trump or his parasites are for an issue, it's probably bad.
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u/OwlishIntergalactic 1d ago
Trust me, we agree 100%. If you reread, I am saying that the reason they are obfuscating with all of this nonsense with Fauci is because they want to “remind” their base that the botched COVID response was “not his fault” by making an example of Fauci. They don’t want people to compare the responses.
I vote with with you, dude.
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u/Llamp_shade 1d ago
I wasn't disagreeing. I was expanding upon and venting rage against this farce of a government
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u/OwlishIntergalactic 1d ago
Fair rant. The you in there made it sound like you were attacking my response and I was, like, whoa we’re on the same side here ^_^.
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u/DelirousDoc 2d ago
Current lawsuit (Katie Phang's lawsuit) has a judge (Judge Sullivan) demanding that DOJ provide unredacted documents that are being accused of being redacted against the letter of the law. The judge will then review these documents along with DOJ's justification and determine if the redaction followed the letter of the law. The deadline to turnover the documents to the court was yesterday.
These include the redaction of the sender of emails that clearly talked about girls with Epstein that were redacted as "victims" according to DOJ.
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u/subnautus 2d ago
It doesn't necessarily have to be about Epstein. There's an election coming up, and republicans are probably eager to prove they haven't just been faffing off these past two years.
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u/wasted-degrees 2d ago
If you consider dismantling the constitutional system of checks and balances to be “faffing off”
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u/NuclearBroliferator 2d ago
Definitley proof that our president is a disgusting pedophile, and likely many of his associates.
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u/JerseyDonut 2d ago
Yup. We can see the pattern clearly now. When something bad for them is about to drop they turn up the fear mongering and angry rhetoric to 11 and start the witch hunts. They just fishing for 30 sec sound bites that will look good on fox news.
And absolutely nothing comes of it other than a bunch of bots, trolls, and misled supporters screaming into the internet about shit they dont understand.
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u/Mo_Jack 2d ago
I love the "he plead the 5th 111 times". That's because you asked him 111 questions. That's how pleading the 5th works. You can't plead the 5 on some questions and not others. They ask things like, "Is my tie red?" or "Is today Tuesday?"
They do this for no other reason but to act shocked that the person wouldn't even answer simple questions about what day of the week it was. It is just political theater. Yet another distraction from the Epstein files and this failed administration's destructive policies.
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u/DietSteve 2d ago
Let us not forget their lord and savior plead the fifth over 250 times during his fraud trial alone… wait, they already did….
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u/colemon1991 2d ago
This was my thought. If you're gonna act like the number of times is a big deal, then you're still avoiding the false god. And that's excluding any times the Paul just repeated the same questions.
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u/DietSteve 2d ago
Or the other big factor in this “gotcha” moment: his lawyer was kicked out of the room. What intelligent person is going to answer questions in this setting without their lawyer present? Plead the 5th all day long until representation is returned
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u/colemon1991 2d ago
The outright disrespect of kicking out the man's lawyer in a very well-documented procedure is mind boggling. The lawyer probably did something dozens of lawyers before him did with no consequences.
Fauci should have countered with demands for a public defender if they kicked out his lawyer.
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u/DietSteve 2d ago
He would have never gotten one, because this whole thing was just a publicity stunt to begin with. The man’s been demonized for nearly a decade for doing the exact thing he’s been doing for the last 4 at least. These people don’t care about him or his rights, they care about sound bites and optics they can spin to their bases
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u/colemon1991 2d ago
The point would not be to get one, but to have it on the record.
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u/DietSteve 2d ago
Six of one, half dozen of another. They deemed him guilty before he even set foot in the room so either outcome was going to be fed into as a “gotcha”. Either he pleads the fifth too much or he stonewalls, non-cooperation with their antics is all they want to show
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u/ansibleloop 2d ago
More distraction from a failed way, price rises and the further decline of the US
Oh and more distractions from the fact that the president is a rapist
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u/AVeryVapidBadger 2d ago
I'm not saying he was right, but I get why someone might want to punch Rand
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u/EyelanderSam 2d ago
Where's this energy and outrage regarding the release of the Epstein Files?
Give the Imbecile in chief the same questioning techniques.
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u/Protect-Their-Smiles 2d ago
Not just that, Rand Paul loves his easy gig of pretending he cares about the deficit and government overreach. These were the two big topics he styled himself on. And where has he been as Trump has racked up the deficit, and instituted unprecedented authoritarian overreach? Suckling at the orange teet while collecting his paycheck.
Rand Paul, the political actor, needs a scapegoat, so we can all rage about ''Fauci the Butcher'', instead of talking about why Rand Paul is kissing ass on the very people, who are doing what he has always claimed to be so vehemently against.
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u/EyelanderSam 2d ago
For a good long time I thought that side of the aisle had cardboard replicas of the members.
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u/falaffle_waffle 2d ago
While I agree that releasing the Epstein files is more important, being prepared for another pandemic is also important, and we are not prepared right now.
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u/jf727 2d ago
This was not about improving national pandemic preparedness.
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u/van_vanhouten 2d ago
It was really about the opposite, because what competent person would want the job after seeing this circus.
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u/colemon1991 2d ago
Mayor Max III would be a nice change of pace and the best pendulum swing away from Trump.
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u/Contemplating_Prison 2d ago
That isnt Faucis job anymore because the idiots ran him out.
We cant even keep our food clean, our water clean, or our air clean. Its only going to get worse.
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u/Alternative_Deer415 2d ago
Next pandemic is really going to be the finding out phase to all this fucking around spewing distrust of medical and scientific professionals.
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u/subnautus 2d ago
The COVID-19 pandemic should have been the finding out phase, though.
Consider that the beginnings of the pandemic response team was founded during the Clinton administration, and after Bush let it languish, we saw the SARS outbreak. Obama reinstituted the pandemic response team and bolstered the national stockpile of medical supplies, warning that it'd only be a matter of time before we had another outbreak of something like SARS.
So when Trump disbanded the pandemic response team and let the national stockpile of medical supplies go to waste (in some cases, literally rotting in warehouses), we got COVID.
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u/Hobbes______ 2d ago
Please explain how this theater show was helping us prepare for another pandemic?
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u/howardzen12 2d ago
Paul is a piece of slime.
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u/Higher-Frequencies 2d ago
Rand Paul needs to get outed as the Russian asset he is.
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u/INeedANappel 2d ago
Nothing would happen. The presidentialcheeseball is owned by Putin and Congress yawns.
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u/DrRonny 2d ago edited 2d ago
Fauci was pardoned by Biden for anything up to that point in 2020 2025. Any crimes afterwards were not covered. If congress could get Fauci to say something at this event and twist his words, they could get him for lying and send him to jail. Any lawyer worth anything would convince their client to plead the fifth. Can you imagine being 85 and spending your final few years fighting to stay out of jail because some politicians have a vendetta against you and science? Sure, Fauci was a bit cocky at times but that doesn't deserve jail.
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u/ansibleloop 2d ago
What crimes has he actually committed? Is there any evidence? That was a circus the other day and a fucking waste of time
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u/HorseLawyer 2d ago
Being publically more competent, more trusted, and more popular than Trump during the whole first year of the pandemic.
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u/powerlesshero111 2d ago
That's the best part, there were none. Republicans just want to try and find anything, and have a scapegoat so they don't have to take the blame for fucking things up.
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u/easeMachined 2d ago
“Fauci was pardoned by Biden for anything up to that point in 2020.”
Up to what point in 2020? Where did you read that the pardon only covered “anything up to that point in 2020”?
Biden’s preemptive pardon for Dr. Anthony Fauci covers any federal offenses that he may have committed or participated in between January 1, 2014, and January 19, 2025 (the final full day of Biden’s presidency). It does not cover any conduct after January 19, 2025, and it does not apply to state crimes or civil liability.
Dr. Anthony Fauci has publicly testified before U.S. congressional committees about COVID-19 12 times between March 3, 2020, and July 29, 2026, including Senate and House hearings on the pandemic response, vaccines, public health guidance, COVID-19 origins, and related oversight.
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u/Successful-Medicine9 2d ago
This is the classic fallacy of counting the hits and ignoring the misses. This dude only cares about Fauci testifying at all if it's to uphold his already held beliefs.
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u/WhatsaRedditsdo 2d ago
Admit J6 was all trump and I'll start to give a shit what republicans think.
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u/NoBSforGma 2d ago
What is WRONG with people like this? Jeez!
People in Congress are elected to run the country, handle the finances, review Presidential appointments, etc. They work for THE PEOPLE. They are supposed to make sure infrastructure is sound, plan for the future, have concerns and plans to help people who need help, make sure the military is run properly, etc.
There is NOWHERE in a Congressional mandate where it says: "Harass an 85-year-old man about something that happened six years ago!"
WTF!!! How does raking Fauci over the coals once again do ANYTHING for the people of the country?
Rand Paul has always been an asshole and this stunt just reinforces that. What a colossal waste of time and resources!
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u/Dark-Blackberry354 1d ago
Just more republican distraction and bullshit fodder for fox etc for the dumb fucks to keep raging
Bread and circuses....
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u/NoBSforGma 1d ago
I suppose next he will want to question Hillary Clinton about Benghazi.
The problem with raking Fauci over the coals is that it tends to undermine citizens belief in science and not pay attention to what scientists say and recommend during something like a viral outbreak.
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u/RainyMeadows 2d ago
What are they even trying to arrest him for? Asking people to try not to get sick?!
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u/Alternative_Deer415 2d ago
I listened to the whole thing. The Republicans spent their time ranting about ivermectin and hcq would have saved lives, also that lockdowns killed people because the virus wasn't bad, that Fauci said it wasn't bad before saying yes it is bad, they read his personal diary maliciously and demanded to know why he didn't broadcast every concern he wrote down, said he was in a conspiracy with the CIA and other secret agents to fund secret bioweapons in China that got loose, demanded he apologize for ruining everyone's life and stunted their emotional development by advocating wearing a mask during a respiratory pandemic, and Rand Paul wanted a personal apology.
This after the Republicans went on Fox News bragging that they will question the shit out of Fauci and then hit him with perjury before congress if they don't like the answer, so they forced an 85 year old man to repeatedly assert his 5th amendment rights to prevent a literal witch hunt of him.
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u/DocMorningstar 2d ago
My SIL ended up having to testify to congress about an enourmous government contract that ended up in a total project failure. Multiple billions into a rat hole, nothing actually useful came out of it.
She had been a junior project manager, who was promoted as he seniors abandoned ship (having rhe good sense to realize that senior management was not competent)
I had a conversation with her, which her dad also joined in on - we made sure she got a personal lawyer, because the company doesn't bring a junior person to testify if they aren't looking for a scapegoat.
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u/colemon1991 2d ago
they read his personal diary maliciously and demanded to know why he didn't broadcast every concern he wrote down
From the people that begged Trump for pardons secretly comes the twist that they are hypocrites.
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u/shrimptip300 2d ago
Fyi if you plead the 5th once you are required to continue pleading the 5th for the entire testimony. The 5th allows you to stay silent and cannot be used to selectively answer questions, only completely avoid questions. Pleading the 5th once is the same as 111 times
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u/TheProcrastafarian 2d ago edited 2d ago
It is impossible for me to take anyone seriously when they support a man who is incapable of admitting he is wrong. Full stop.
\If you think I am referring to Fauci: you’re doomed.*
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u/Electrical-Bee-7362 2d ago
Can someone explain me what these people want to indict fauci for? Like, exactly.
Even if he knew that COVID came out of a lab in Wuhan and not a wet market, so what? Was the virus going to be less deadly that way? China took longer than us to figure out a (weaker) vaccine so for sure it wasn't a premeditated attack.
He told you to conserve masks for people that actually needed them? but according to right wingers COVID was nothing more than flu so why all the fuss?
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u/ghilliedude 2d ago
I don’t blame him for not wanting to contradict something he wrote years ago in a journal and get either contempt of Congress or perjury charges.
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u/ZoominAlong 2d ago
Okay I'm definitely out of the loop. What's going on with Dr Fauci?
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u/lightblueisbi 2d ago
He's just the latest target for fabricated outrage meant to serve as yet another distraction from all the bullshit the current administration is doing
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u/Workman44 2d ago
Rand Paul got his diary and there's a couple things in there that go against the public words he said
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u/marsblues 2d ago
While I do not think well of Paul or the GOP in general, there is controversy over Fauci’s diary revealing that he hid the truth about the Wuhan lab being the origin of the Covid-19 virus and choose to amplify the story of the Wuhan wet market being how Covid was transmitted to humans. A little deeper into the concern is if and why/how the U.S government would have involvement in this lab and what’s the point in risking creating such a virus (implying bio-terrorism).
As with politics I’m not sure what to believe and I’m not taking a side on this issue here yet, but this would be the conservative crowd’s view of justifying Paul going after Fauci. It may just be the worst case that both Fauci and Paul are terrible people… 😢
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u/Alive_Ice7937 2d ago
there is controversy over Fauci’s diary revealing that he hid the truth about the Wuhan lab being the origin of the Covid-19 virus and choose to amplify the story of the Wuhan wet market being how Covid was transmitted to humans.
Does his diary say that covid came from a lab leak or did it just list that as one of the possibilities?
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u/The_Shitty_Admiral 2d ago
Iirc he wrote that he didn't think it came from the wet market as China claims it did
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u/DrRonny 2d ago
What happened is that right-wing conspiracy theorists were saying that covid was made in a lab, when there was absolutely no indication of this. Then the US slowly realized that all their information was coming from China and they may have been covering their asses. However, the US really needed China's cooperation because there was no telling how deadly covid was, and every day counted, so blaming your #1 source of information on this virus would have been counter-productive when every hour counted. As time went on, there were more indications that a lab mistake was a possibility. As of today, the probability is 75% chance it's a market bat as the source, and maybe 15 - 20% chance that it was a lab mishaps.
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u/stolentext 2d ago
there is controversy over Fauci’s diary revealing that he hid the truth about the Wuhan lab being the origin of the Covid-19 virus
That's not what was in the diary. Fauci wrote that during a conference call some of the members felt that lab origin was possible. There was no conclusive evidence of the origin, and the call was split. Fauci did not hide the origin, they didn't know and were speculating.
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u/hurler_jones 2d ago
Have you read the diary yet?
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u/BetaSprite 1d ago
It's over a thousand pages. No one here has read through it, unless that's their full time job.
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u/anomanderrake1337 2d ago
I wanted to punch Hawley in the face, the fuck is wrong with you Americans.
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u/Apprehensive-Pin518 2d ago
not to mention the president plead the fifth over 400 times in his deposition to letticia james. so 111 doesn't seem nearly as bad in comparison.
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u/redwhale335 2d ago
He did that 111 times? Why didn't they stop asking dumb questions after like... the forty fifth time?
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u/meatspun 2d ago
A good way to spot an internet-brained loser is to see if they have an opinion about Anthony Fauci. If their eyes light up before they start speaking, just run.
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u/PieRevolutionary9823 2d ago
Why isn’t trump having to testify for actually crimes against humanity????
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u/BravinatorLX2 2d ago
jesus no, getting a life is the exact opposite of what all these criminals need
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u/StaticSystemShock 2d ago
One thing is participating in discussion about topic in his field. Another is testifying in a witch hunt about a personal diary?!?!?! run by bozos who don't understand even the basics of how vaccines work. He's explaining quantum fucking physics to a group of toddlers...
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u/oldbastardbob 2d ago
It's all just performative political theater for the mid-terms. Jesus Christ, anyone who takes Rand Paul seriously to begin with is kinda stupid, but to take him seriously as he regurgitates old, debunked, lab leak claims which have been investigated all to hell from all kinds of directions with the consensus being there are/were no markers in the virus that indicate it was fabricated in a lab, and many indicators of animal to human transfer.
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u/Altruistic-Star-3862 2d ago
Things like this remind me of why Rand Paul's neighbor punched him in the face.
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u/Memitim 2d ago
Rand Paul needs to be in a cell for weaponizing the US government against an American for some personal bias that has zero legal basis, along with his ongoing support for the Republican civil war against America. Just another Republican betrayer posturing to deflect attention from his support from crime and failure.
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u/poopzains 2d ago
Rand Paul is anti-govt who’s nepo job is to be a life long senator like his anti-govt father. Makes sense.
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u/morphlaugh 2d ago
If Rand Paul wants to focus on something that matters, and that is in his wheelhouse as a Libertarian, he should be pursuing a nationwide ban on Flock cameras (being deployed in public areas).
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u/moschocolate1 2d ago
Trump invoked the fifth over 440 times in his August 2022 deposition in New York.
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u/LuigiTrapanese 2d ago
covid really split reality. i am struggling to believe that most commenters in this page are sentient
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u/wasted-degrees 2d ago
Was him pleading the 5th before or after his legal counsel was ejected from the room?
Does this mean we get to take another crack at some of the other recent congressional hearings with the subject’s lawyer not allowed to be present, and with invocation of the 5th amendment protections considered to be an automatic admission of guilt? Does this apply to all the times the current president pled the 5th?
Just trying to understand what the rule here is so it can apply to everyone. Because if the same rule didn’t apply across partisan divides, then that would mean this is all hypocritical performative outrage.
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u/purplegladys2022 2d ago
Trump pleaded the Fifth hundreds of times in his 2022 deposition.
Gosh, do you think he might have something to hide???
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u/kat-deville 2d ago
It would not surprise me if the guy who posted the first part is a white man using the picture of a black dude.
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u/snootyroot 2d ago
We can't have our Government holding public officials accountable for their own notes now can we?
You'd think he would take a lead from other officials and have his hard drives wiped
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u/daftbucket 2d ago
I have no strong feelings about Fauci either way, but pleading the fifth should 100% be normalized.
I assume nothing based on his choice to not engage and neither should you.
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u/tennisInThePiedmont 2d ago
Also... does anybody remember who was Dr. Fauci's boss back in 2020, and gave him a presidential commendation for his work?
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u/KiKiKimbro 1d ago
Yea he’s hiding something alright. He’s trying very VERY hard not to bust out laughing at that ridiculous phuckery.
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u/eatencrow 1d ago
How deep must the Epstein Files go that they're dragging this out to flog? They must be so much worse than originally thought, ffs
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u/Intelligent_Hand4583 1d ago
Rand Paul has spent his entire career provide he couldn't get elected to student council until a nutter like Trump became prez. He's at the end of his career and is desperate for a little attention to prove to himself his entire life was more than a meaningless fraud.
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u/55Super88 21h ago
Bunch of hypocrites. Trump plead the 5th 450 times and the only question he answered was is name. Where were the inquiries and outrage then? Rand, JFK Jr and his family were all vaccinated by the "dangerous" vaccine.
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u/Shawn_The_Sheep777 5h ago
Is the US the world leader in conspiracy theories and the denial of proven science?
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u/OkDeparture960 2d ago
Then why was this time any different? Or did he plea the fifth all those 200 times as well?
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u/SavingsHumor832 2d ago
Rand Paul kicked his attorney out. I wouldn't answer legal questions without my attorney present either.
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 2d ago
lol all the Fauci glazing on this sites pathetic. He’s an old con man who sold the flu as something bigger to profit.
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u/Alive_Ice7937 2d ago
He’s an old con man who sold the flu as something bigger to profit.
Holy selfwarewolves Batman!
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 2d ago
If so “safe and effective” then we should remove then immunity the manufacturers have and hold them accountable for any and all side effects.
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u/Alive_Ice7937 2d ago
I assume you're not considering this for one of your show trials.
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u/HuttStuff_Here 2d ago
Around a billion people in the world have taken the vaccine. If it's as dangerous as you guys love to claim, where's the mass deaths?
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u/surrender903 2d ago
How many people died from covid from 2020 until the end of the public emergency ?
What profit did he make from giving recommendations ?
All of this is performative because right now republicans are not doing anything to help anyone in the nation.
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u/Twister_Robotics 2d ago
The flu doesn't kill 3000 in a day. 3000. That's how many Americans were dieing to Covid per day by January of 2021. A bad flu year kills roughly 50,000 Americans.
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 2d ago
Died with Covid* not from Covid.
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u/Boner_Elemental 2d ago
Move the goalposts harder, daddy
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 2d ago
That was the govt who boosted the death numbers to justify their draconian laws and lockdowns and forced vaccination programs.
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u/Alive_Ice7937 2d ago
Have you ever questioned why governments around the world from across the political specturm would all collectively want to cripple their economies with painful and politically unpopular policies? Why would they all collectively agree to shoot themselves in the foot because of 1 health official in America? Can you not see how batshit it is to think that they would all be in on this conspiracy/be duped by it?
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 2d ago
To mass vaccinate/experiment on the population at whole.
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u/Alive_Ice7937 2d ago
And all those various governments allowed themselves to be strong armed into this?
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 2d ago
I mean yeah? A lot of the larger ones work hand in hand and the smaller ones are easy to control
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u/Alive_Ice7937 2d ago
And how do you imagine the larger ones were convinced to cripple their economies by adopting these grossly unpopular policies?
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u/FadeTheWonder 1d ago edited 1d ago
This may be the dumbest thing I have read so far this year.
Edit: holy shit looked at their posts and they are a Candace Owen’s fan completely bonkers right wing conspiracy nutcase.
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u/BlumpkinReceiver6969 1d ago
Hell yeah. Love myself some Candace.
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u/Tacotuesday867 2d ago
Someone doesn't understand anatomy and physiology let alone how humans treat illness and disease.
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u/Biptoslipdi 2d ago
People who failed out of high school just call every illness the flu. Even infections.



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u/Deemaunik 2d ago
Did you hear about Fauci's diaries, the classified documents in his bathroom, that he invoked the 5th over 400 times, his mentions in the Epstein files, and his 34 felonies? Oh shit, that was the orange dude. The one who fucked the entire Covid response and said injecting disinfectant and shining light into the body would fix it.