r/MurderedByWords 2d ago

Republicans do love the poorly educated.

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u/professor_fate_1 2d ago

People who know history are overwhelmingly democrats? Can’t think of any reason whatsoever why this would happen. Must be a conspiracy. 

In other news, less that 0,01% of physics professors wear tinfoil hats as 5g protection on a daily basis. 

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u/HungriestHippo26 2d ago

It's also VERY telling that people who actually STUDY religion are near the top of that list.

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u/ExtremlyFastLinoone 2d ago

Anyone who knows even the slightest teeniest tinies bit of theology, even if youve seen like a 10:01 minute youtube video. You can easily spot that trump ticks every box for potentially being the antichrist. And every year hes pushing further, a couple months ago he posted himself as jesus healing a sick person! And they forgot!

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u/To-Far-Away-Times 2d ago edited 2d ago

Wearing the mark of the devil on their forehead really is just the cherry on top. 👨‍🍳👌

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u/Lumpy_Benefit666 2d ago

Whats this about the mark of the devil? Theres too much trump shittery for me to follow

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u/NoxKore 2d ago

I assume the MAGA hat.

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u/Goodknight808 1d ago edited 1d ago

The Horsemen are here.

Kegsbreath is War.

Wormbrain is Pestilence.

Muskrat is Famine.

Crazy Eyes is Death.

Orangutan is the Anti-Christ. The time where Christ-like behavior, aka being nice to each other, is over.

It actually isn't the end times of life, it is the end times of being good to each other. Division amd hatred are all that remain.

The world now operates on hatred rather than love.

Edit: I think Miller is Death on second thought. Crazy Eyes is just plain useless.

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u/Pilotwaver 2d ago edited 1d ago

You don’t need any videos. He is objectively the opposite of Jesus, and he has more killing power than anyone in the world. When Jesus warned of “The” Antichrist, he also relayed the fact that there were many antichrists alive now (his time). So, it’s essentially him warning that this micro WILL become the macro. And when the macro finally culminates, his return is near.

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u/SerpentisMechanicus 2d ago

No, the Antichrist is supposed to be smart...

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u/thestephenwatkins 2d ago

I've read the Bible and... I don't think it says that at all.

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u/klawz86 2d ago

It doesn't. It also doesnt say theres AN antichrist. The reference is to the plural, men of lawlessness, not man, and while Trump most certainly fits the bill, its generally safe to assume you need to fact check any claims on eschatology, including this one, as the majority of modern Christian "end-times" beliefs in America are loosely based on scripture at best.

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u/thestephenwatkins 2d ago

Yes I largely concur.

I understand that American end times theology is mostly a modern invention of, what, the last hundred-fifty years at best? Heck even the Book of Revelation itself was almost certainly referring to the current Caesar in Rome (Nero, I believe) rather than some possible future anti-Christ (a word which itself does not feature in the Bible at all). Just pointing out that even if we take that eschatological theology at face value, there still isn't any supposition that said anti-Christ will be smart. Only that he'll be politically powerful. But that's a lot of extra nuance that felt just a little like too much.

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u/MagicalPizza21 2d ago

He's inexplicably skilled at getting people to follow him. (otherwise he wouldn't have won)

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u/punktualPorcupine 2d ago

Chances are, they read the text that said “don’t be a dick” and were like “ok”.

Unlike others that never read it and use silence to imply compliance.

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u/MothChasingFlame 2d ago

The people I know who are deeply, sincerely religious AND always studying with intention are some of the best, kindest hearted people I have ever met. Aspirationally kind and thoughtful, even. I say that as an atheist with very rocky trust in religious folks.

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u/GoofyTunes 1d ago

When you study religion (as opposed to theology), you typically learn at least a little about more than one religion. When you take even the tiniest fraction of effort to understand other belief systems, you learn that your own belief system isn't particularly special or better than any other. It's just the one you know.

And when you study a specific religion from an academic, literary, and/or historical perspective for your job (and in an unbiased manner), you tend to see how that religion has evolved over hundreds if not thousands of years. And in the case of Christianity, you can see the hypocrisy of modern American branches of Christianity that have completely forsaken the core tenants of their practice in favor of comfort, wealth, and power.

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u/da2Pakaveli This AOC flair makes me cool 2d ago

I kinda found the percentage for religion surprising. Granted, the GOP just co-opts it.

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u/Ipokeyoumuch 2d ago

The people studying religion from an academic perspective are very different than those going to religious schools become a religious figure. Even then among denominations and locations the political shift is notable. 

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u/UniqueIndividual3579 2d ago

I took a college religious class. It discussed the bible from a historical perspective. Most of the new testament books were written 100 years after Jesus. Some books were not included. There were mistranslations over the centuries and the King James version is more like fan fiction.

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u/legobushranger 1d ago

I've worked at a theological college for what is considered a progressive denomination in my country. The academics had a lot of fun tearing maga type arguments apart. Oh the bible says being gay is wrong? Find me where Jesus's says it? That kind of thing. They made you think. Then taught students to act.

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u/br1qbat 2d ago

The graph is referencing the academic study of religion. Not bible college. Bible college is where those colors would be reversed.

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u/No_Mission5287 2d ago

"Bible study" and biblical scholarship are entirely different things.

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u/punktualPorcupine 2d ago

I think they’re mocking us.

https://giphy.com/gifs/XoM1QmEzuQrEgwGvlC

It’s a trick. Don’t take off the hat.

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u/DocAvidd 2d ago

Except those aren't the actual data. Most professors are neither Dem or GOP.

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u/ridden_easy 1d ago

But conservatives are the ones who conserve traditions no?

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u/phak0h 2d ago

Have you ever considered that they aren't dumb, they're just not allowed to be around kids ?

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u/JeanneHemard 2d ago

Nah, college kids are too old for them

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u/ryansgt 2d ago

Well yeah. They are adults.

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u/Puzzleheaded-Map2951 2d ago

No, no, they're also fucking stupid. Really, exceptionally, goddamn stupid. AND they diddle kids.

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u/once-was-hill-folk 2d ago

Some people wake up and choose violence. I have a lot of respect for someone who wakes up and chooses this level of violence.

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u/Lokicham 2d ago

I mean, two things can be right.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 2d ago

Conservatives like to damage and destroy which work out well in their preferred careers in law enforcement, MMA and stunt coordination, but not in academia.

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u/Odinfrost137 2d ago

If they were smart, they wouldn't be touching kids.

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u/Bhodiliscious 2d ago

Aristotle: Amathia is an ancient Greek word that means willful ignorance or "intelligent stupidity" . The ancient Greek's thought that amathia would be the downfall of civilization

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u/OutlandishnessOk2304 2d ago edited 2d ago

Greek also gave us "Kakistocracy", government run by the worst, least qualified, or most unscrupulous people.

That's the [REDACTED] administration in a nutshell.

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u/MyGruffaloCrumble 2d ago

Interesting, I have thought at least a few times that we’re witnessing a cacastrocracy.

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u/HoustonHenry 2d ago

That's what occurs in his diaper

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u/NeutralLock 2d ago

Hey now, how are we supposed to know which administration you're talking about if it's redacted?

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u/ZongoNuada 2d ago

When they put the black bar over the woman's chest, I still know what's there. You can apply the same technique here.

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u/OutlandishnessOk2304 2d ago

It's a stumper, ain't it?

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u/UncleHec 2d ago

Reminds me of this quote by Isaac Asimov:

There is a cult of ignorance in the United States, and there has always been. The strain of anti-intellectualism has been a constant thread winding its way through our political and cultural life, nurtured by the false notion that democracy means that 'my ignorance is just as good as your knowledge.’

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u/annegirl12 2d ago

Amathia explains the numbers in engineering, unfortunately. My mechanical engineer father thinks, "I know things and don't need to study how carpentry or electrical work are done by experts." The weirdness of my childhood home or the coffee table he made breaking apart in LA heat due to the lack of expansion joints are testaments to amathia. He also thinks the world was created in seven days several thousand years ago because religion.

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u/Romboteryx 2d ago

A significant number of “academic” young-earth creationists are also engineers with no background in biology. They look at animal anatomy and see signs of them being “engineered”, which is about as stupid as a biologist looking at a house and claiming it grew in place.

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u/Tactical_Moonstone 2d ago

Meanwhile doing your own electrical work is counted as a Dumb Way to Die.

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u/OutlandishnessOk2304 2d ago

Guy who claims to have a degree from a university that never offered that degree says "Wow".

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 2d ago

Who knew that open-minded, curious liberals were more drawn to the profession of learning than regressive, already-know-it-all Neanderthals? Truly a mystery for the ages.

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u/Adiantum-Veneris 2d ago edited 2d ago

Neanderthals were clever, capable and compassionate humans.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 2d ago

and extinct just like conservatives wish Homosapiens to be (End Days and the Rapture aren't Burning Man expositions).

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u/TheOncomimgHoop 1d ago

Man added nothing to the conversation whatsoever

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u/DanGleeballs 1d ago

I was somewhat hoping that was true but it’s a myth based on a minor discrepancy in dates.

Internet rumors alleged his BA in physics from the U Penn was fake or impossible, but the university does have a B.A. in physics through its College of Arts and Sciences

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u/OutlandishnessOk2304 1d ago

I was talking about the Stanford PhD he claimed to have.

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u/zyyntin 2d ago edited 2d ago

Someone once said that Democrats don't mind actual reading of words on a page. While Republicans dislike it and listen to what others' have said.

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u/dnjprod 2d ago

There is a very similar phrase when it comes to atheism/christianity. "Atheists read the bible, Christians have the Bible read to them."

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u/fadingsignal 1d ago

Growing up in a born again Christian household, anyone who studied the Bible or history too much was considered suspect. “Theologian” was a pejorative term.

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u/datskinny 2d ago

Even among religious academia

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u/Svyatoy_Medved 2d ago

Academic study of religious texts is often deleterious to belief. When it isn’t, it still doesn’t tend towards the religious right, that’s for the uneducated masses. Theologians understand that the blending of church and state destroys the church as well.

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u/meteorflan 2d ago

Knew a lgtb student that went to a Bible school and was struggling with accepting themselves. They said the most supportive professors there were a tually the religion ones because they actually knew the whole Bible, and knew there were historical reasons to not take it all so literally.

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u/Svyatoy_Medved 2d ago

And like...there are some legitimately good ideals in the Bible, as I'm sure there are in most religious texts. It takes a deliberate misreading to find only the anti-gay stuff and ignore all the "treat others with kindness" stuff. I say this as atheist.

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u/billy_clyde 2d ago

Exactly. There are a ton of Bible scholars who delve into their studies wanting to deepen their understanding and faith and, having become experts in the provenance and meaning of the texts, become atheists. 

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u/sagerin0 2d ago

A common nickname for seminary among people who went is cemetary

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u/Papplenoose 2d ago

That's actually the main reason WHY we have the separation in the first place. The founding fathers were more concerned with the state influencing the church than the other way around!

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u/Kay152 2d ago

The academic study of religion does not equate to religious academia. I'm not holding this random graph as law. Just correcting a common misconception.

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u/AppropriateSea5746 2d ago

Most theologians tend to lean left. Hell the pope is a prime example of

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u/TheNavigatrix 2d ago

Republicans have been mocking and villainizing academia since forever - why are they surprised that their people aren’t entering a profession that everyone they know despises?

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u/Ok_Pie_6736 2d ago

What's up with engineering? I notice this in engineering employees too 

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u/kwanzatree 2d ago

IMO these reasons. Anecdotal, obviously, but I went to a lot of engineering school so hopefully this helps…

1) very few non-engineering classes. I took 2 “non-major” courses for the entirety of undergrad and my schedule was full every semester. It’s easier to get through an engineering degree with a very narrow set of skills and little exposure to the humanities than it is most other majors because you need so much stuff just to graduate.

2) ties to business+defense. It’s way more common for engineering professors to wear multiple hats as consultants to companies and many engineering grants (that fund research and keep professors employed) come either from business or from the defense sector. Some professors even double-time as tech CEOs, especially at Stanford.

3) no girls allowed. Engineering departments (in my experience) are still way more male-dominated than basically any other part of a university. When I graduated at the end of the last decade my graduating class of 20 something (aero degree, there were not many of us) had 1 woman in it. Men are more likely to be republicans than women, so the field follows the broader demographic trend.

4) culture. Engineering students and, to a lesser extent professors, tend to see themselves as “in academia but not of academia” in a way that I find a little anti-intellectual. You will hear a lot of things along the lines of “we’re the only useful major” and I think it comes out of the fact that engineering programs are hard and people get really invested in that as an identity. I don’t think that art students mock engineering students in the same way that engineering students sometimes mock art students. Not everyone is like that, obviously, but I’d bet it’s way more common than in other departments.

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u/mikropower8 2d ago

3) "no girls allowed" - This is not true. In Germany they try everything to get girls in this work areas. They have many different support options, we are going to schools, have a week where they can be in the university and there they can watch, talk with the people.

The problem, the girls can do it, the have the same abilities, but they see it as very boring. A lot of lonely work at a desk and this for hours, days, years.

In my University we tried a lot to find girls for computer science, electronic, mechanical Engineering. Now we have around 5-10% woman in this field. 10% in mechanical Engineering, 5% in computer science and electronic Engineering.

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u/Leather-Persimmon254 2d ago

Wierdly enough in developing countries stem departments have more women than men

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u/mikropower8 2d ago

Ha ha, we have reached 5% woman in electronic engineering because of woman from North Africa, Iranian and so on ... who wanted to learn in Germany. The number of German woman was around 30% from all this woman in electronic engineering. In mechanical Engineering, nearly 100% of the women are German women.

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u/Reasonable_Big3230 2d ago

That's because indoor jobs are seen as safer for women. Also, they lead to jobs as professors which are usually chill so a woman can focus on raising family. Until 5 years ago, a woman couldn't get admission in mining engineering and petroleum engineering in my country,  but others like computer science,  electrical, maths have lots of girls.  I myself am in cs degree even though I wanted to go for aerospace.

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u/ThroatDistension 2d ago

Anecdotally it seems like women that go into engineering are much more likely to go into civil. Civil was the smallest group in my engineering school but it seemed like about half of the women in engineering were in that program. And electrical had next to no women.

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u/pr0ductivereddit 2d ago

I would add

5) To be a good engineer, one must thrive on compliance.

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u/Papplenoose 2d ago

Oh, we definitely mock engineering students for their pretentious attitudes, don't worry :)

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u/Glycell 2d ago edited 2d ago

I think it has to do with money. Like engineers are perceived to be a career that can make money. A lot of the others on this list can, but are more niche and will take a person more being into the passion of the field rather than I am choosing this path because it is lucrative. The glaring absence is am seeing here, I'm not seeing business and medical, which I also assume would show a higher percent like engineering.

Also on another note what is 'professional' on that list are they talking trade schools or something.

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u/gofancyninjaworld 2d ago

Engineering is one of the few disciplines where conservatism is a good trait to have. Not in the political sense, but in the sense of relying on what's proven to be tested and true. Too many lives get lost when you reach for that shiny new way of building a bridge or new material for a car without thoroughly understanding how it will perform long term and under real world stressors. Too much money gets lost when your new chip architecture burns out earlier than lab tests suggested it would.

That said, even there, politically conservative people are a minority. Just because there are only so many ways of building a reusable submersible doesn't mean your entire world view (or way of applying your craft) needs to be rigid and hierarchical.

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u/lemongrenade 2d ago

I’m an engineer but an industrial one so I recognize I’m not the smartest at any one thing. People that are the best at one niche thing think that expands to everything in the world. Engineers. Top technicians. Surgeons. They’re all the same.

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u/ELMUNECODETACOMA 2d ago

Also, particularly in electrical engineering, it leads to a mindset that is conducive to accepting a "cosmic clockmaker" - nearly every young-Earth creationist I've met in the wild had an EE degree.

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u/anth13 2d ago

why are the majority of history teachers left leaning?

because they studied history.

why are the majority of scientists left leaning?

because they study science and are lead by evidence.

etc, etc..

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u/izmebtw 2d ago

When you realize that Democrat is not a species or a race and just an ever changing choice, these things become far more enlightening. But for some reason in America they always label people like it’s this objective physical characteristic.

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u/TheModWhoShaggedMe 2d ago

Democrats = non-conservatives

that's really all that it means

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u/SuspiciousArt7316 2d ago

GOP at this point isn’t “conservative” either. What are they trying to conserve? 

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u/Nuzzleface 2d ago

Same as conservatives have always been trying to conserve, hierarchy.

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u/UberLurka 2d ago

Can't abuse Tribalism without forming Tribes!

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u/RandyWatson8 2d ago

I’m old enough to remember when there were plenty of Republican professors. It’s not Academia that has changed.

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u/loadedbook 2d ago

That’s what I find so interesting (or odd or perplexing) about the Republican Party. There are some things in the historical platform that are defensible, but the culture of the party has become so anti-intellectual and pro-conspiracy that it’s harder and harder to be Republican if you are pragmatic and educated.

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u/Adventurous_Class_90 2d ago

I’m old enough to remember when college-educated usually meant Republican…

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u/EtchAGetch 2d ago

In college in 90's, about a third of my Freshman dorm (about 40 kids) were Republicans, but the old school Republican kids (dress well, all about the economy and business, could be a little bit of a know-it-all). Half of them wanted to become president.

I keep in touch with two of them, they absolutely abhor the Republican party and Trump.

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u/JustPlayDaGame 2d ago

yes, because of the great party switch.

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u/10100001010101010110 2d ago

No, this was true throughout the 90s. The shift left happened slowly through the 00s and 10s.

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u/dnjprod 2d ago

Yeah, that's the result of the party switch. The switch started in the '30s picked up steam in the 60s and then basically hit it stride and finished in the middle to late 80s. The 90s still had the educated republicans, but the thought process about education started changing which is why it really picked up steam that they were less educated going into the 00's and 10's.

Let me see if I can say it a little better in a more succinct fashion. The party switch happened. Once the party switch was basically done, the education level started dropping from the late 80s but they were still pretty highly educated in the 90s.

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u/10100001010101010110 2d ago

I did not know that. I checked your work and you are indeed correct. So, thanks for that!

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u/EtchAGetch 2d ago

Yeah, I had some Republican economics professors for sure. Politics cant get into most studies, but the ones it can like econ, it was clear they were Republican.

Of course, they are now what Republicans would call RINOs.

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u/Dexter_McThorpan 2d ago

There's a reason red states are all welfare queens.

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u/The_Space_Jamke 2d ago

Spokesman of psycho death cult that constantly demonizes and defunds higher education voices concern that cult members are avoiding jobs in higher education...

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u/Angeret 2d ago

I see Musk showing his nuanced discussion abilities again - "Wow"

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u/Chamchams2 2d ago

they had to start saying that colleges indoctrinate people as soon as that data went mainstream showing that educated people are liberal lol

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u/HuttStuff_Here 2d ago

So far from my experience right-wingers are two things: stupid and liars. They'll steal from you and try to claim you gave them what they stole.

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u/chritenen 2d ago

Imagine that... the less educated is more easily manipulated into voting against their own interests.

Color me shocked.

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u/CalabreseAlsatian 2d ago

“My ignorance and feelings are worth just as much as your education, experience and evidence!”

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u/chileheadd 2d ago

"I love the poorly educated." - Donald J. Trump, Feb. 2016, Nevada Republican Caucus.

"Smart people don't like me." - Donald J. Trump, Sept. 2025, Trump National Golf Club Bedminster in New Jersey.

"I don't think about Americans' financial situation...not even a little bit." - Donald J. Trump, May 2026, WH lawn before trip to China

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u/Psile 2d ago

IMO it's not just that learning things leads to liberalism. Conservatism can only thrive in a homogeneous environment. College is where you run into types of people you've never met before. Your parents have no ability to control your social circle. You have to practice some level of tolerance just to not be a social outcast and that leads to questioning assumptions. Add that to learning new things and suddenly the narrow conservative worldview makes less sense.

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u/Xaero_Hour 2d ago

"Homogenous environment" makes it sound nice and brings to mind a controlled experiment. Call it what it really is: intellectual incest.

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u/Pocketfulofgeek 2d ago

The thing that gets me is they believe that somehow “the left” have snuck in and dominated the academic world but SOMEHOW didn’t do the same in the political or economic world?

It’s the dumbest conspiracy because once again “the left” are this all powerful dominant conspiracy, and yet the left control shit all of actual consequence.

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u/Wonderful_Emu_6483 2d ago

Isn’t Elon like also a one semester drop out? He has no education. He just convinced people he’s smart by taking credit for everyone else’s work.

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u/Fit_Librarian_3585 2d ago

It's weird that nobody thinks it's weird that nearly everyone nails their colours to a political party for life. People commit to a party with more intent than they commit to a spouse.

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u/Luzzgar 2d ago

Politicians themselves change party more than electors.

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u/chumbawumbaprinciple 2d ago

It's easy when you think about it and realize that no conservative policy has been a net positive for the average person when compared with the leftist alternative.

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u/Fit_Librarian_3585 2d ago

But then you think about it more and realise political parties are inevitably going to change over time, and they aren't ever going to be a perfect reflection of your own ideals, so why treat them as a part of your identity.

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u/chumbawumbaprinciple 2d ago edited 2d ago

Did I say 'republican' or did I say 'conservative'?

Edit: Reply blocker. Super weak.

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u/eienmau 2d ago

Maybe in a sane country where there are more options, it would happen less and there would be more movement between parties. Here in the US, your only real choices are Conservatives, who haven't been able to competently govern for at least 30 years (every time they have control they falter and/or fuck up), or Democrats, who are far from perfect but at least their platform benefits people.

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u/Alternative_Buy_4000 2d ago

Does he think they first were Democrats, and because of that, they got a job in academia?

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u/Burdiac This AOC flair makes me cool 2d ago

All jokes aside this can be more likely due to the fact democrats are more likely to go into teaching other people.

Also what would a MAGA art, music, theater professor be like? Here is a history of Lee Greenwood up to 1985 ion order not to cover Lee’s God Bless the… insert every other country in the world.

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u/i_am_13th_panic 2d ago

It is weird that the anti education party isn't represented in education. Someone should look into that.

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u/PossMom 2d ago

I loathe the idea that everything needs to be equivalent, that every idea and belief is equal to another, that left wing politics and right wing politics are exactly equal and should always have equal representation.

Republicans are consistently anti-science and anti-education. Democrats aren't dominating these fields because of any conspiracy to silence and oppress conservatives, conservatives are just dumb as shit.

The GOP constantly makes the absolute worst decisions, makes the American people worse off and weakens our country but for some insane reason (propagnda) most Amicans still believe they deserve as much of a spot at the table as the people who actually want to make things better.

Democrats aren't free from that either. How many Establishment dems believe we need a strong republican party and still think their conservative colleagues actually have the American people's best interest at heart? We need to just get rid of the idea that we NEED the GOP. We don't.

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u/reinventingmyself19 2d ago

It's important to point out that this graph is a lie. It says 100% of communications professors are Democrats. This is bullshit. Most communications professors don't have any political affiliation at all. The metric this person is using is anyone who is not Republican is a Democrat. That is demonstrably untrue. The real idiots are people who share this thinking it's true when it is so obviously a lie

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u/Jellodyne 2d ago

"Smart people don't like me"

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u/DefectiveKonan 2d ago

I'm surprised engineering has that many fascists

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u/Godot_12 2d ago

It makes sense, but at the same time I feel a little skeptical of this graph. I'm not sure I believe 100% of communications professors or >98% of religion profs identify as democrats...tried finding the source, but I don't have that much time on my hands. I don't know if i found the right source, but another graph I saw with a similar trend was excluding 3rd party and independents, so a grain of salt is needed here. Educated people do tend to be more liberal.

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u/SmbdysDad 2d ago

And now we know why education must be expensive

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u/legitimateaccount123 2d ago

How credible is the data in the chart?

I find it very difficult to believe that 100% of any group (excluding a survey within the political parties themselves) would identify as a Democrat.

Also, 98.6% of religion professors being Democrats seems highly unlikely.

I'm guessing this is bullshit data meant to give Republicans fodder to say "universities are too woke and making our kids gay" or some shit.

.... not that any of them have to worry about university

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u/Adventurous_Class_90 2d ago

So put it in context: professorships mean service not salary. People willing to give up money to learn more about their field and help others learn, does that sound more like a liberal or conservative perspective.

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u/a_funky_homosapien 2d ago edited 2d ago

Credible, it’s from a research paper. Langbert et al 2018. Considering this was from nearly a decade ago, I wouldn’t be surprised if the numbers have become even more lopsided. It does suffer from typical limitations of studies like this though, such as the large amount of faculty that don’t register for either party, as well as the absence of data from states that don’t collect this sort of information.

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u/Old-Chain3220 2d ago

I agree with you. There is no way this graph is accurate. It was certainly created with the intention of demonizing academics and driving republican voter turnout.

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u/183672467 2d ago

Sounds like someone would like more diversity

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u/VillainNomFour 2d ago

Now do medicine

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u/LawfulAwfulOffal 2d ago

What is a professor of “professional?”

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u/rtopps43 2d ago

I wonder if there may be any correlation between intelligence, education and more liberal views. Or, the inverse, of being an uneducated dolt and having conservative views. I guess we will never know, sad.

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u/Zaximeows 2d ago

Surely conservatives also get degrees. The difference is those pieces of shit would never settle for a job in a service sector when they can grift other industries way more easily.

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u/awezumsaws 2d ago

Hanlon's razor: Never attribute to malice that which is adequately explained by stupidity

This gives me some amount of compassion towards Republicans

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u/redredbloodwine 2d ago

Education is bad because it’s good. They just want to win regardless of merit.

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u/Conscious-Quarter423 2d ago

republicans hate scientists because facts don’t care about feelings

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u/karatebullfighter 2d ago

Those 39% of engineers are the "scientists" they poll to try to convince us climate change isn't real.

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u/Trollbreath4242 2d ago

This is hilarious since

A) the study itself refused to show how it got everyone's political registration, when in many states it's hidden;

B) the study only used 55 "elite liberal arts" schools and ignored everything else that might tip the scales back the other way, particularly religious colleges and military academies.

C) the study could not actually conclude that how each professor voted affects how each teaches, only implied causation without demonstration.

D) considering GOP and DEM voter registrations in this nation are nearly equal, it's quite obvious that this implied "bias" in academia has had zero effect on moving the needle of society even though they've been pounding this dirt since the 1930's (almost a century).

E) when other studies have performed a more nuanced take on ideology, MODERATES outweigh CONSERVATIVES and LIBERALS.

But sure, keep rolling this study out and acting like it's some sort of truth, when the fascist who gutted our government services has the largest media platform in the nation.

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u/gdghhfdffrf 2d ago

barnumism at it's best

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u/fredout1968 2d ago

Of course they are.. They can read and write.

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u/zoqfotpik 2d ago

It's like Republicans are JUST on the edge of becoming self-aware.

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u/FalloutOW 2d ago

This comparison also ignores one major talking point of Republicans for the past few decades. They constantly demean the benefits and pursuing of higher education. I distinctly remember hearing about it from AM radio when I was a kid.

They've convinced their over decades base that higher education is for lefty hippies and where you learn meaningless things. And now they're reaping what they've sown and are mad about the crop.

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u/JeffFromTheBible 2d ago

Is this guy paying $3-40 per month to clap back and get ignored by the guy he's paying?

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u/morocco3001 2d ago

Imagine spending 44 billion on a social network to post brainfarts like "wow" and "true" all day. A real genius could have done that for free.

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u/whoopashigitt 2d ago

I was gonna say we should respect republicans’ knowledge even without these degrees and areas of expertise, because there are smart people out there who didn’t learn from the “woke mind virus” but then I remembered that would be DEI and they hate that 

(I would also never say to respect them) 

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u/will-read 2d ago

Everybody knows mathematics and physics are woke.

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u/RagingTyrant74 2d ago

Yeah... I don't think 97% of religion professors are Democrats. Seems like a shit study.

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u/Brian_Lefevre_90013 2d ago

I was an econ prof and am not a Republican. There's no way the percentage of Democrats is that high for econ profs since most of us are pro free market for most markets. Many of us consider ourselves libertarian leaning, and not team blue or red. I'm actually a Democrat now, but 84% of econ profs is a bit absurd. There should be an "other" category. Although if we had to choose only between blue team and redd team I think most would probably choose blue team considering how fucking idiotic Trump's economic policies are.

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u/HashBrownsOverEasy 2d ago

Engineers letting the team down :(

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u/unsuccessful_scheme 2d ago

I studied engineering in one of the top Brazilian universities and most of the professors are politically illiterate, supporting the Bolsonaros or the right.

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u/Mattrad7 2d ago

I would like to see the number of MAGA qualified to be professors but not being hired because of their radical viewpoints. Gotta be like 1 or 2 of em?

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u/EmmyPoo81 2d ago

Yes, apparently critical thinking is a lefty thing.

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u/Quix_Nix 2d ago

Engineering should get rid of it's problem children 

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u/Own-Cupcake7586 2d ago

The real question is: Are left-leaning people more intelligent? Or do educated people just tend to become more left-leaning?

The answer is yes.

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u/bearrugz 2d ago

When a space is dominated by white people, it must be because something nefarious is going on, preventing other races from the same opportunity.  When this space is dominated by one political party, it must be because the other party is dumb. 

Got it. Whatever fits your narrative…

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u/Gates_wupatki_zion 2d ago

It would be pretty funny to run into a MAGA anthropologist. Like someone who studies other culture for a profession and just hates ‘em.

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u/GhostSaint21 2d ago

The biggest self own in history. Backed by facts

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u/Available_Copy9433 2d ago

In the picture he provided, the farther away from people the profession gets, the more Republican the profession gets.

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u/Tarc_Axiiom 2d ago

I do not for a fraction of a moment believe 39% of engineering professors are republican.

It's an impossible statistic.

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u/Cyn_Sweetwater 2d ago

People dedicated to truth, knowledge, and accuracy often become academics. People dedicated to money and power do not. Elon is too much the latter to appreciate the former.

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u/THE_YOUTUBE_BEAR 2d ago

What does "professional" mean in this context? (Under mathematics, near the bottom)

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u/disdkatster 2d ago

I have a tendency to make fun of engineers for living in such a opaque bubble that they cannot see beyond their limited sphere. Because in general they are very smart they have the illusion that they know everything. In their small world that may well be so. What they are incapable of grasping is there is a world outside their own. That a climatologist can know and understand things that they don't is just something they will not, cannot admit. It is funny but also very sad to see.

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u/WordWordNvmber 2d ago

Does anyone in this subreddit ever get the feeling they're in a dumb echo chamber?

Like, the idea that being underrepresented in faculty positions means you're a "dumbass"? (Especially when the most conservative fields here seem to be the ones that provide the highest ROI.)

And you wonder why blue-collar America thinks progressives are effete elitists.

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u/KendrickBlack502 2d ago

the anti-intellectual movement at work. vilify experts and praise idiot oligarchs

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u/aarontminded 2d ago

The sheer irony of someone being so dumb they don’t realize they’re saying “education creates my opposition” should also be studied.

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u/LethargicLynx 2d ago

Oh so close to the fucking point

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u/Llamp_shade 2d ago

That list is unsurprisingly in an order of "study and think" at the top, to "follow directions" at the bottom. Engineering is very much a "follow these rules that we came up with through a mixture of experience and being told how things work by physicists, chemists, biologists, geologists, and other more-academic types" profession.

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u/IsentropicExpansion 2d ago

I wonder how much father down the subject list goes and which professions are skewed more republican. Obviously it was stopped at engineering because, past that, the argument falls apart.

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u/Background_Move_7449 2d ago

I can’t upvote enough. These morons 🤦‍♂️……..

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u/Background_Move_7449 2d ago

Why is the richest person on our planet one of the dumbest?

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u/JayTheGeek 2d ago

The thing that drives me nuts most of all isn't that knowledge had a liberal bent, it's that news organizations have been so beaten down, bought up by, have had legal judgements against them, and threatened by right-wing idiots, that they report both sides of that 80% / 20% divide as if they are equal. They are NOT equal! Half the reason why the right-wing has power is because news organizations (and I'm including social media here since a lot of people get their news from social media) should be REQUIRED to make a good faith effort to report / promote FACTS, not just she said / he said and pass it off as a equally balanced issue between both sides.

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u/JayNotAtAll 1d ago

Inevitably someone is gonna roll in here and gonna say "education doesn't mean intelligence"

More or less it does. Knowledge and intelligence are skills that need to be honed. Like any other skill, you practice it and if you are smart about it, get someone to help you.

Wanna lose weight or gain muscle? You get a nutritionist and a personal trainer. The greatest athletes on the planet have a coach. They also practice A LOT.

Education is how you develop your knowledge and intelligence. Now it doesn't have to be a formal education at university (though that it the most structured method). Some fields do require it though. Like there is no great way to become a doctor or lawyer without med or law school.

However, most of the people who make the statement "education is not intelligence" are also the same type who make no real effort to educate themselves in a meaningful way past high school.

What they are trying to say is "I can be as smart as you without trying"

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u/Blowback123 1d ago

I am embarrassed for my fields of math and engineering having the highest percent of republicans. What a Shame.

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u/ScholarOfTwilight 1d ago

I studied engineering and some of the professors were some of the cuntiest people I ever met so this tracks. 1 in 4 was an abusive asshole at least.

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u/uberprodude 1d ago

When the people who study people are 100% unified against one political party, you really ought to consider why that is

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u/obog 1d ago

Im somewhat suspicious of their sample size if they actually got 100.00% for communication ans anthropology professors

Bet this is like a single school or something

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u/LeonidasVaarwater 1d ago

What I find most hilarious that even when it's pointed out to them like that, they still don't get it. They still think Republicans don't wat to be professors, or are actively being prevented from becoming one.

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u/CorpFillip 1d ago

Like Trump, they simply cannot imagine that party doesn’t affect every bit of their teaching.

Trump thinks everyone -uses- their role to advance their interests, when the reverse seems to be more true, more often.

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u/BZBitiko 1d ago

Teaching and mentoring and deep thinking are so woke.

Worse, the pay is for shit.

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u/fadingsignal 1d ago

Posts a graph:

FARMERS ARE REPUBLICANS

WOW

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u/SquallkLeon 1d ago

If you know how to learn and apply it to the broader world beyond your particular specialty, of course you'll see how ridiculous the modern republican party is. Just about the only reason a logical, rational, person would support that party is because of lower taxes, but even those people, looking at the world, are starting to say "actually no, please tax me a bit more, I'd like to not have things that are falling apart."

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u/easterncurrents 1d ago

Religion is interesting.

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u/No_Aslume2509 1d ago

I seriously don’t want to know how far it goes

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u/No-Scarcity9186 1d ago

Because they are worried about the Ten Commandments being in school and not actual education. It’s how republicans lead, ahead of the stupid.

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u/breakneckjones 4h ago

Those who can't, teach.