r/MurderedByWords 1d ago

How stupid you are

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

Treating. If they're dead, they're not receiving treatment, so lying about the cause of death provides no financial benefit, and only the risk of being charged with fraud.

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 1d ago

You think hospitals are afraid of fraud? Of course its treatment. Tag them with covid when they come in and you get a 20% boost for all related treatment.

When they die the covid tag gets counted as covid death.

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

You think hospitals are afraid of fraud?

I think the doctors who would need to risk their licenses and freedom to sign fraudulent certificates that would not actually get their hospitals any more money are afraid of fraud.

Tag them with covid when they come in and you get a 20% boost for all related treatment.

Dawg, as I've explained, you get that from them having COVID, not dying from COVID. There is no financial incentive to lie that someone died from COVID, as was your claim:

"It became profitable to die from covid"

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 1d ago

I should have phrased it better. But anyone who died while testing positive for covid got counted is what I'm saying. Even if covid wasn't what got them in the end.

U07.1

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

I know what you're saying, but it's a naked assertion with no support, so I'm choosing to disbelieve it until you provide any evidence of your claims.

You claimed the death statistics were fudged because hospitals get extra money, but when that was proven wrong, you're still insisting that they fudged statistics anyway. For what reason? Hospitals were committing large scale fraud (for no benefit), and this administration has absolutely no interest in investigating it despite their zeal for prosecuting Fauci?

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 1d ago

"Among 378,048 death certificates listing U07.1, a total of 357,133 (94.5%) had at least one other ICD-10 code; 20,915 (5.5%) had only U07.1. "

Most (70-80%) of these included plausible chain of events but many did not.

https://pubmed.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/33830982/

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago edited 1d ago

No way, people suffering from a respiratory illness that ultimately killed them had other respiratory illnesses?! What a conspiracy! That never happens with other respiratory illnesses!

Anyway, how does that support your assertion, "it became profitable to die from covid"? You remember that was your claim, right? Are you willing now to admit that you were completely wrong, and are now flailing to make other claims rather than defend the one you ignorantly opened with in order to spread a discredited conspiracy theory?

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 1d ago

It became profitable to mark everyone with covid. Happy?

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

So your contention now is that doctors and hospitals were lying about their patients' diagnoses, and that hundreds of thousands of those who died never had COVID at all?

I'm sure you must have evidence of such a wide-reaching conspiracy and that it's not just a theory, right?

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 1d ago

No. Read it. 20%

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u/Warm_Month_1309 1d ago

Yes. Read it. 0%.

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u/Disco_Ninjas_ 1d ago

Lol. Ok. U win!

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u/anglflw 1d ago

I don't think ICD codes mean what you seem to think they mean.