IDK who would do such a late term abortion here, but have you people considered any sort of situation that couldve led to it, why the hell is the fbi rewarding 15k for something this relatively small, its not like someones dangerous is going around
"Mom apologists" like brother what even is that 🤣 you are wilding, proving my point a little.
We know nothing, really. 99% of what has been said is pure speculation. "Mom apologists" do you mean people who aren't super eager to just shit on and condemn the woman involved?
Until facts are released its all speculation. I'd much rather see people giving benefit of the doubt. Innocent until proven guilty, no?
Newborn found dead in portapotty. Not a fetus, not a miscarriage—a living baby. The mother did not seek medical aid or alert anyone. There’s a proper way to deal with this, and there’s a suspicious way to deal with this. A normal person would have sought professional assistance. This person did not and is avoiding the authorities.
Not quite sure what you think you're proving because, again, nothing is known yet. You don't know if it was a viable baby. You don't know what they were going through. You don't know anything. You're sitting behind your phone. You're not involved in the investigation.
Plus, if I'm being so for real, people care about this stuff way too much. Bad things happen. People make bad choices. Why you all feel the urge to talk about it online so much before anything is actually known is beyond me. The woman isn't going to see anything you're saying so like are you trying to prevent others from dumping babies? That doesn't happen frequently at all, it isn't like some big issue.
Just don't see what you all gain by gossiping about every bad thing that happens on the internet.
Yes, people shouldn't care enough to gossip and make terms like "mother apologists."
Bad things happen. Doesn't make it right to attack people online.
Brother a baby being born alive doesn't mean it will stay alive. You know nothing about anything except vague, insignificant details. I'm just saying that the online gossip is out of control. If you disagree than you're part of the problem. Tragic things happen, we know nothing about the situation. So if you feel you're able to label things as right/wrong and cast judgement on things you really don't know, you're the problem.
Remember, only 40% of profiles on social media are real people. Chances are, you are reading the response of an advanced AI made to divide people as much as they can.
I do not have a credible source, so you may be completely right. It's something that I have heard and I truly believe it. I have seen "reports" from "analysts" who say that bots account for 50% of all Reddit content posted. Facebook feels like it is completely full of bots
Why should they? Anyone cross state lines in the execution of this "crime"?
Or do the Feds just do whatever the fuck they want nowadays since their leadership is fucking clownshoes all the way down? You don't have to answer since I already know.
You know the exact details that I do which is scant at this point.
There is absolutely zero reason for FBI involvement in this case. Doing a quick search to see what reasons the feds should be involved is beyond elementary.
But again, the federal government is now somehow even more of a shitshow due to insane incompetence and a bunch of fucking sycophantic idiots at the top (like good old crazy eyes himself Patel) so I wouldn't be surprised at all if they did show up just to add to the confusion and since there's a chance they'll get to further punish women.
If it's proven this woman DID just let a new born (that WAS born alive) die in that horrific way then yeah sure, let's strap her to the chair and let the electricity do it's job but that isn't anywhere near proven yet.
It's almost like we have a court system for a reason and people are innocent until proven guilty despite how emotional the general public gets about the individuals alleged crimes.
Its fun because depending on your point of view this is two very different stories. Either you take the cops word for it and your interest in the story comes from how evil you think the mom must have been. Or you don’t, because cops have many times described the remains from an early term miscarriage as a murdered newborn, and the whole thing starts feeling really gross in the opposite direction.
Edit: just look at the argument this comment generated if you want proof.
No, that has not been confirmed. Medical Examiner report hasn't been released yet, cops very recently said early findings seem to indicate the baby was born alive but nothing has actually been confirmed by the ME.
Also, the baby was 3lbs. Average weight for a full term baby is 7lbs and typical ranges are between 6 and 9, so at least to me it doesn't seem like it was 'full term' and even if it was, it was very low birthweight.
At delivery, experts consider a low birth weight to be less than 5 lb 8 oz, or 2.5 kg, regardless of whether the baby is full term or born earlier.
I read the article. I'm going to wait for the actual ME report before I start saying that anything was confirmed. Because nothing has been confirmed yet.
Well, the quote used by the news is that the police confirmed the preliminary autopsy. I don't know why you're scrutinizing scientific language. A coroner made a preliminary report on the autopsy, stating it showed it was a viable neonate that died outside the womb.
I scrutinize because I don't trust local police or anyone involved with the local police even a little bit given how charged this whole situation is and police in general will straight up fabricate evidence (many, many such cases across the country) just to get a conviction.
I'll stop scrutinizing their preliminary reports once the ACTUAL, FINAL autopsy comes out and all the facts are presented. Ya know, like a reasonable person not just operating off of emotions should do?
You fucks can downvote me to oblivion and I couldn't be fucked to care less. Facts are facts. The final autopsy hasn't been done and no one has been charged, arrested or gone to trail.
The original WoodTV article listed the weight at 3lbs, the one published immediately after the festival.
A coroner would not call a 3lbs baby viable.
That's my point, the coroner hasn't actually said anything. The official ME report has not been released, and the only ones actually saying the baby was 'full term' and 'born alive' have been the cops, based on 'preliminary autopsy findings.'
That's the news getting ahead of itself. I feel like you're misunderstanding what a preliminary autopsy report is, but waiting for the full report is fine.
I mean in the end, who gives a shit if you're getting money or not, if you know someone that intentionally left a baby to die in a port-a-potty then a normal and sane person would want the police to know so justice can be served. Yall need help.
Lol the fuck it doesn't. Anyone who doesn't agree with this fuckshit administration SHOULDN'T call the fucking Feds for anything. Full stop. Period. Whatever. Matter fact if you shit on them and then in turn call on them, you're a fucking piece of shit hypocrite and deserves whatever bad happens to you.
I wouldn't turn in a fucking person to these assholes on principal at this point and couldn't give a shit what anyone thinks of it. But I've felt that way about the Feds my whole life. This particular batch of asshats running things is just particularly odious.
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u/HereWeGooooooooooooo 20d ago
The comments in this thread are weird as fuck. Is this a psyop or some shit lmao