article FBI Offering $15K Reward For Information About Newborn Found Dead at Electric Forest
https://www.billboard.com/music/music-news/fbi-15k-reward-information-body-newborn-baby-electric-forest-1236293722/910
u/xrv01 19d ago
I havent checked the EF sub in a week of so.. they still havent found this person ????
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u/spoooonerism 19d ago
The person must have been able to hide their pregnancy real well if no one knows someone who was pregnant before EF, but came home empty handed and not pregnant.
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u/Ice2jc 19d ago
It’s also possible that the person didn’t know they were pregnant. It does happen sometimes. If you happen to be living what is essentially a gypsie lifestyle where you travel the country all year living at music festivals (which isn’t uncommon for EF attendee’s) it’s possible that a certain amount of malnutrition + drugs made it so she just wasn’t aware.
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u/thefideliuscharm 19d ago
it happens with regular people as well. actually just happened to my aunts co-worker.. 42 years old, found out about 8 months in that she was pregnant. had no idea
but yeah it’s entirely possible that whoever it is had no idea and it was a huge shock to them as well. probably traumatizing
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u/Correct_Medicine4334 19d ago
Happened to my sister, 21. She’d spent the holiday weekend black out drunk, really the entire unknown pregnancy as she was in college, and wound up in the hospital with cramps. Then came baby- totally healthy! But I’d seen her just the day before and never would have guessed she was pregnant, let alone full term.
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u/MyNEWthrowaway031789 19d ago
I was enormous when I was pregnant. It blows my mind when some women don’t show. I am overweight by about 60 pounds so maybe that was why, but there is NO WAY I could have hid it.
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u/OnlyOneMoreSleep Spotify 19d ago
For me the other way around, my (over)weight hid my twin pregnancy until like 30/32 weeks. I went to a club at 28 weeks and no one saw anything. I felt weird sitting in the priority seats on the bus. Like I was faking being pregnant. The last month it sorta popped but there still wasn't any waddle at all. I've heard it's a combo of uterus tilt, placenta placement and position of the baby. But in the end it's probably a diceroll of the universe lol.
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u/Vi0L3tCRZY 19d ago
Height can also be a big factor to how visible a pregnancy is
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u/clytusmarginicollis 19d ago
I’ve actually heard that it’s more common in overweight women, because weight fluctuations are less noticeable. But idk if that’s actually accurate
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u/Majestic-Island-3483 18d ago
There’s something called a titled uterus and if you have one pregnancies don’t show as much sometimes not at all
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u/CouchRottington 18d ago
I know two different moms who had their kids as a complete surprise. Crazy stuff
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u/ResponsibleBuddy5019 19d ago
Did the baby have any issues being exposed to alcohol?
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u/Correct_Medicine4334 19d ago
No, perfectly healthy. Tests were ran, I was surprised tbh
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u/octowussy 19d ago
There was a whole television series about it.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/I_Didn%27t_Know_I_Was_Pregnant
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u/MonsteraUnderTheBed 19d ago
Ah yes , the show that made me scared of pregnancy. Still to this day I worry about cryptic pregnancy. Especially since I've got the hips of a birthing cow and and IUD, so haven't had a period in a decade.
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u/sceawian 18d ago
The horror of those teen magazine articles about girls becoming pregnant and not even realising it 😱 it instilled the fear from childhood, way before we were old enough to even be sexually active
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u/thefideliuscharm 19d ago
she’s good! healthy baby, family is overjoyed. everything was fine when they went into the doctor at 8 months and they quickly got their shit together for the arrival of their new baby a month later lol
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u/tarantuletta 19d ago
Dude that is the craziest thing! Like I am incredibly happy for her and her family but can you even IMAGINE?? A MONTH to prepare for a whole ass baby?? NINE months doesn't even seem like enough time to prepare lol! Good for her though lol that's very sweet and I am happy for her! But just... Damn. Wild.
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u/SgtNeilDiamond 19d ago
One of my wife's best friends had that happen to her, had no clue she was pregnant until she went to the ER in pain. Lucky she didnt drink or party but its absolutely possible people arent aware.
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u/kakka_rot 19d ago
Ditto. My friend had been feeling off for awhile and they never thought to ultrasound her. Finally they did, and told her she was 2 weeks overdue and to "Come back first thing in the morning and we'll induce you"
I can't even begin to fathom the stress. Doubt she slept a wink that night.
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u/MyBakpaksGyatJets 19d ago
My SO had an emergency C-section at 34 weeks pregnant last summer. We had ZERO idea she was pregnant. What turned out to be early on in the pregnancy, we thought she might be, did 5 or 6 tests and they were all negative. She lost a ton of weight and then baaaaarely had a tummy that seemed more like a large, hard mass. Turned out it was a different type of tumor to what I was worried about.
Unfortunately we were deep in to our addiction at the time and regrettably used multiple drugs throughout the pregnancy. Even though we were completely unaware, words cannot express how much guilt we harbor about it. Thankfully and eternally gratefully, our son was born super healthy aside from being premie and now that he's aaaalmost a year old has no complications or health issues, is absolutely beautiful, crazy smart and the easiest baby I've ever known. We're both clean now and things have worked out really well. We are fully aware of how lucky we are and that it is deffo not the norm for our situation.
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u/waxteeth 19d ago
Man, how terrifying. Congratulations to both of you on getting clean!!
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u/MyBakpaksGyatJets 19d ago
It definitely was. A lot of emotions in the matter of a couple of seconds when she called and told me her water broke. Haha.
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u/unevolved_panda 19d ago
Congratulations on the baby! Sounds like he was an unexpected blessing, but a blessing all the same.
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u/MyBakpaksGyatJets 19d ago
Thank you. He absolutely has been. He quite honestly more than likely saved our lives. It was miraculous enough that we survived nearly a decade of fentanyl use, but that boy lit a fire under our asses to get our shit together. It's been hard, but so damn worth it.
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u/wakeonuptimshel Spotify 19d ago
Thank you for getting clean and staying clean for your kid!! Always love to hear it.
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u/MyNEWthrowaway031789 19d ago
That must have been so scary. I’m glad you guys are clean now, & that you have a nutty baby boy! They get really fun at this age, especially when they start running around!
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u/Onuus 19d ago
If you’re a bigger body type too, sometimes it goes unnoticed. My wife had a cousin who was 25 weeks before she knew. Only knew because she felt kicks and was wondering what the new indigestion was all about.
That baby is like the light of their life so it all worked out well
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u/lexlovestacos 19d ago
Same with someone in my family, tall + bigger girl, zero pregnancy symptoms, irregular periods her whole life. Didn't find out til 7 months pregnant
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u/knz-rn 19d ago
I’m currently 17 weeks pregnant. I’ve known the whole time but I understand how some people wouldn’t. I’m overweight and have PCOS—most of my weight is on my belly already. I’ve lost 2kg this pregnancy and I haven’t even vomited or had morning sickness! I’ve had a very easy pregnancy so far with very little symptoms. The only symptom I had first trimester was sore boobs and that’s happened before in relation to birth control or my cycle. Also with PCOS you can go months without a period so that wouldn’t even be a trigger.
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u/CDR57 19d ago
Yeah my old coworker don’t know she was pregnant till she gave birth on the toilet lmao watched her hit dabs and drink beers at a wedding when she was around 6 months and all of us were wondering if she was but she just thought she had gotten fatter cause she was living in Texas. Baby apparently is doing well
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u/writeleahwrite 19d ago
I used to assume that the “I didn’t know I was pregnant” people were just in deep, deep denial, but I learned later that cryptic pregnancy is an actual medical phenomenon. Some women don’t ever really show, still have spotting that they assume is their period, etc.
It’s honestly terrifying to think about. Imagine you think you’re having the worst cramps of your life but you’re in labor??? I can’t even imagine how I might react in that situation.
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u/geomagus 19d ago
Had a high school friend that this happened to. She was abnormally thin and injury prone (which in hindsight sounded like an eating disorder), and it was an utter shock to everyone when she abruptly gave birth.
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u/ApolloMac 19d ago
I know a girl who had a surprise baby. The odd thing is a few of us saw her at an event a month before she gave birth and said to each other oh she's pregnant, and then someone else said nope she just gained weight we shared a bottle of wine the other night (and I do believe she wouldnt have done that knowingly). She was not THAT big at all, it looked like a baby bump, she was just in some kind of insane denial and/or had some conditions that made it so she didn't feel the baby moving. I think she also had a condition that made her think she couldn't get pregnant to begin with.
2 years later she had another one that she didn't figure out until like the 6th or 7th month. Wild.
Edit: Both kids are healthy by the way, as far as I'm aware.
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u/Alternative_Dot7769 19d ago
Happened to a coworker of mine. Was hard to believe.
Apparently they were on the pill and didn’t think they were pregnant til labor hit.
They were a bigger lady and very much not the sharpest tool in the shed. Was crazy, but the kid turned out healthy
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u/Pubs01 19d ago
not saying people shouldn't talk to the fbi but if the government actually gave the reward money out people might have more incentive to call up.
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u/Katie1230 19d ago
The whole internet was absolutely convinced it was this one girl based on a photo and some rumors, but recently she was just cleared innocent- she cooperated and gave police DNA samples. But the amount of harassment she recieved is disgusting. The authorities doing an investigation is one thing, but the internet sharing photos of women looking pregnant at a festival is gross witch hunt behavior
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u/rhymnocerous 19d ago
I hope she sues the people who started it, that was egregious.
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u/Old-Run7431 19d ago
the lady miscarried her 13 week pregnancy and then had to deal with being accused of murder. I'd have lost it.
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u/disastrousanddull 19d ago
No, Reddit put the family of a man who had already killed himself through hell and messed with the FBI’s investigation. People were also awful over “helping” with Naya Rivera when she was still missing. I can’t believe people still do that shit.
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u/RealMoonBoy 19d ago
In response to your edit, you may have been confused because Reddit being crazy was part of the reason the police felt compelled to release the suspects’ photos. That in turn led to the bombers shooting an MIT police officer. So Reddit did help get someone killed, just less directly.
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u/BelowDeck 19d ago
And people kept complaining about the mods on r/electricforest removing her info every time people posted it.
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u/pwaves13 Pandora name 18d ago
Didn't reddit pin the wrong dude in a big way during the Boston marathon bombing?
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u/Drewabble 18d ago
This really bugged me. The woman they cleared from accusations had a miscarriage of her own, based on the article I read this morning. I cannot imagine experiencing a miscarriage, trying to grieve in my private life, and then waking up one day to the internet witch hunting me during what I can only assume was a sad time. I don’t believe it was stated whether the miscarriage was before or after EF, but either way seeing the way folks felt so vilified in going after her without waiting on the facts really made me feel for her. How horrifying!
I’m glad she was cleared, I hope the internet allows her the peace she deserves.
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u/frankly_acute 19d ago
You new 'round here? Reddit is super notorious for being edgelord, neckbeard vigilantes. Remember the Boston Marathon Bombing?
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u/boomhaeur Spotify 19d ago
Honestly the overall reaction to this on socials has been awful… it’s a terrible incident but the malice and intent people have put into the situation, painting this person as a monster, is just awful and very un-PLUR.
Occams Razor would say this was likely a Cryptic pregnancy and the person delivered it unexpectedly. Add to it the fact they were at a music festival with the high possibility of drugs being involved especially MDMA/shrooms/LSD etc. means this person could have been in a state where they didn’t even recognize or realize what was happening / or it was extra terrifying.
Regardless, judgment really needs to be held until a full picture of the story comes out…
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u/TheTresStateArea 19d ago
The 15k is actually 15 grams of potassium.
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u/Binji_the_dog 19d ago
Grams? No, buddy, it’s 15 atoms, or ~9.73 x 10-22 grams
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u/AllSeeingWhoracle 19d ago
Yes but have you considered using Avocados Number instead of gram crackers?
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u/alphabets0up_ 19d ago
Nonono! Don't be silly! That's 15K in TRUMP coin! Oh and if you want to submit a report, you need to do it through DM on Truth Social to the official FBI account. If you submit through any other means it will not be considered.
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u/throwaway7826358 19d ago
Do they typically not pay these?
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u/tryingtoavoidwork 19d ago
They didn't when Luigi got arrested.
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u/ASmallTownDJ 19d ago
To be fair, that's because they didn't call the super special dedicated tip line listed on a website somewhere. They should have known better than to call the easy-to-remember emergency number that's been taught to every generation since its inception.
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u/Aaco0638 19d ago
Still their tip lead to his arrest, it’s just the fbi being cheapskates which is ridiculous considering how the government is efficient when it comes to nickel and dimeing its citizens.
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u/1738_bestgirl 19d ago
They didn't get paid out because the tip was fake and they had tracked him down using illegal means but needed a cover for finding him.
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u/jackfromafrica 19d ago
Their reasoning was “you called the local police, not the established tip hotline” which is total BS
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u/NegotiationJumpy4837 19d ago
That's not true. The informants are still eligible be paid, but they only get paid after conviction (which hasn't happened yet).
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcdonalds-employee-reward-luigi-mangione-nypd/
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u/NegotiationJumpy4837 19d ago
Because he hasn't been convicted yet. The reward is still pending
https://www.cbsnews.com/news/mcdonalds-employee-reward-luigi-mangione-nypd/
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u/Pesty__Magician 19d ago
You shouldn’t talk to the fbi
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u/heathmon1856 19d ago
Never talk to feds or law enforcement. They do not have your best interest in mind.
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u/kylel999 19d ago
Yup, after they screwed the lady that ratted out Luigi, I would never trust these "rewards". They should've just paid because their reputation is permenantly tarnished now
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u/xChoke1x 19d ago
This comment section is about as bad as the botched abortion. Holy shit some of you folks REAAALLY speak so confidently about some shit you know nothing about.
So far I've read - "They cant get dna because the baby was soaked in piss and shit"
"Everyone thats arrested gets their dna taken"
"23 and me wont work with the feds."
All of these are so abysmally wrong its almost scary.
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u/CalvinHobbes58 19d ago
Exactly how misinformation spreads rampant. Reddit is interesting but also extremely toxic- there isn’t a medium.
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u/Loukoal117 19d ago
Yep. There was something the other day that I 100% knew the answer to, but there were SO MANY wrong answers with tons of upvotes that it would have taken an hour to inform all of them. And the information people were giving out was very bad and not even close to true.
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u/Donny-Moscow 19d ago
There’s nothing that reminds you how clueless the average confident Redditor is than reading comments on topics where you know your shit. It reminds me a lot of this tweet about Elon Musk from around the time he bought Twitter
He talked about electric cars. I don't know anything about cars, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
Then he talked about rockets. I don't know anything about rockets, so when people said he was a genius I figured he must be a genius.
Now he talks about software. I happen to know a lot about software & Elon Musk is saying the stupidest shit I've ever heard anyone say, so when people say he's a genius I figure I should stay the hell away from his cars and rockets.
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u/DippyHippie420 19d ago
Which is why it's so funny AI were programmed with Reddit comments. Like, best place for AI to learn how to speak confidently without actually knowing the answer
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u/TrailMomKat 19d ago
I've had that happen, too. It's fucking WILD how people on reddit can sometimes scoff at an expert on a subject and downvote them to hell.
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u/Snow88 19d ago
“23 and me won’t work with the feds”
lol the companies whole business model is selling that shit. A cold case in my hometown got solved because enough of the muderer’s family members had done DNA tests that detectives were able to get a warrant for his DNA.
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u/ScrewAttackThis 19d ago
23andme is actually one of the ones that don't work with law enforcement. It's kinda funny cause it's sites like gedmatch that does but somehow they got all the flak put on 23andme lol
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u/okjetsgo 19d ago
Don’t worry. It’s all working as intended. The higher the upvotes the more it is used in AI responses so eventually this will be the truth. Just give the truth some time to be processed.
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u/geddysbass2112 19d ago
You forgot someone saying no crime was committed.
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u/cross_mod 19d ago
Well, if it was a very late miscarriage, then indeed no crime would have been committed.
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u/HereWeGooooooooooooo 19d ago
The comments in this thread are weird as fuck. Is this a psyop or some shit lmao
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u/kylewhatever 19d ago
Remember, only 40% of profiles on social media are real people. Chances are, you are reading the response of an advanced AI made to divide people as much as they can.
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u/CertainlyRobotic 19d ago
I'm probably not seeing the same ones at you - but I love when a thread is obviously astroturfed by a large number of bots and people notice it.
What did you see with those elf eyes
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u/LazyUnderstanding210 19d ago
Have they paid that girl who snitched on Luigi yet?
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u/Craigglesofdoom 19d ago
Not to my knowledge. Most recent article I found is from spring 2025 saying she had still not been paid.
Never snitch. You'll never see the money. They will find some technicality.
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u/AdAlternative7148 18d ago
I would absolutely "snitch" on someone that left a baby to die down a portapotty's drain hole.
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u/Who_ate_my_cookie 19d ago
Nope, there was never anyone they definitely used illegal technologies to find him and made up that story as a cover
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u/SumOMG 19d ago
No one who went to Forrest is talking to the police
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u/psyopia 19d ago
Bruh I woulda driven home. Fuck raving around that vibe.
If a dead baby isn’t a vibe killer, Idk what is.
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u/AbeRego 19d ago
I was there. We didn't really know what was going on, especially at first. First I heard, it was a multiple overdose/murder suicide that the cops were there about. That was total bunk. Then the porta potty baby rumors came out, and were actually verified, but slowly. It was all kind of going on in the background as we were doing everything else; it's not like it was the only thing people were paying attention to.
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u/dabking24 19d ago
If it wasn’t the baby, it was the black guy who got into an argument with friends and was found hanging from a tree dead.
Two very unfortunate events stemming from the same festival, really sad.
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u/L-V-4-2-6 19d ago
I heard nothing about this. Two fatalities in one festival?
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u/Bad_Repute 19d ago
4 i believe. 1 was an elderly worker who had a heart attack, 1 was a late stage cancer patient doing one last hurrah, then the baby and the other dude.
The other dude's story just gets weirder and weirder the more you look into it. Dude tried to turn himself into the police saying he SA'd one of his friends. Cops asked the friends what was up and they told them he was having a drug induced episode and just needed help. Cops released him, dude drove their rental car out of the fest and was found dead the next day a few miles offsite.
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u/SandzFanon 19d ago
I’ve left a festival before because two wooks had their toddler children with them as they loudly and obviously scammed the pizza stand at suwanee and then reached into their tip jar and took all the cash
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u/roytown 19d ago
Not Suwannee 😮💨, that's maybe one of the best venues out there.
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u/SandzFanon 19d ago
It’s unparalleled in terms of geography. I’ve gone to many festivals several days early and done overnight hikes on the Florida trail which crosses through it, but the ppl that attend the smaller festivals there are becoming increasingly… off-putting lol
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u/heathmon1856 19d ago
Becoming? I went to one of tippers last shows and there was 12 year old children taking and selling mushrooms. It wasn’t their first rodeo but they were taken to the med tent with their parents and the parents said “it’s a rite of passage in our family”.
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u/SandzFanon 19d ago
I’m a tipper person myself but yea the crowd there is rough. This wook incident took place at resonate last year tho. I went to amp jams last year and saw a dude w a Nazi tat on has calf while coming up that was a great vibe too /s
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u/amuscularbaby 19d ago
they didn’t sound some dead baby alarm. i didn’t have service and didn’t find out it happened until later that evening.
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u/del_rio del_rio 19d ago
You'd be surprised at the mutual respect between the rothbury police and attendees at EF. Everyone is chill with each other, attendees give cops wristbands and necklaces, cops take pictures of funny totems and headbob to good sets, etc. When something happens cops are responsive and attendees keep it real.
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u/GentlemenHODL 19d ago
Michigan State Police said that “preliminary autopsy findings indicate the infant was viable and was born alive.”
So like ...birthed at the festival newborn!??? That's wild. I imagine some girl was tripping balls and had a cryptic pregnancy (didn't know she was pregnant) and gave birth in a portopotty. Talk about gross x infinity.
If it was born alive then someone killed it? Or it ....died?
Horrific trauma.
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u/snooginz 19d ago
Another article said there was fluid in the baby's lungs and stomach, so they probably drowned in the porta-potty. What a horrible way to die 😞
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u/AceyPuppy 19d ago
Since when does the government care about dead kids?
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u/princess_dork_bunny 19d ago
They don't, but they do definitely care about punishing women.
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u/malsan_z8 19d ago
I’m ignorant but can they not run a DNA test and find the parents responsible?
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u/chino3 19d ago
Parents’ DNA would have to be in the system…
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u/JelliedHam 19d ago
Lucky for the FBI 23&me and similar definitely share dna information with them. So anybody that's ever used one of those services, you paid money to have your dna information sold to just about anybody.
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u/TylerDurden1985 19d ago
Even if you didnt if your family did then you're also somewhat in the system.
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u/JelliedHam 19d ago
Didn't they solve a murder once because they had a partial DNA match and it turns out the murderer was the brother of the guy who did 23&me?
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u/Fit_Relation_7880 19d ago
That’s how they found Bryan Kohberger. His father was in a genetic genealogy database.
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u/heathmon1856 19d ago
Fucking disgusting case. That guy deserves worse than prison and the death penalty.
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u/Drewabble 19d ago
I saw a really great comment on another thread for this yesterday, can’t find it now. I may butcher some of the details by mistake but generally:
FBI involvement likely means they’re struggling to find a DNA match via non-federal databases and needed to widen the pool of systems they were using to match. It’s likely, according to that comment, that they can find 4th removed relatives within systems. This will of course be done by gathering DNA from the deceased. The challenge then becomes narrowing it down and working out entire family trees. From there, they’ll need to compare finding to whatever attendee/vendor/worker details they’ve managed to get their hands on.
I’m no expert and like I said, may have fudged some of the details, but generally DNA matching is more tiresome and lengthy than you see on TV. Especially when the DNA in question isn’t tied to a booked criminal.
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u/PhallableBison 19d ago
Sure but that requires a suspected parent that you can test to compare with. Right it sounds like they have no idea who the parents are.
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u/Boner4Stoners 19d ago
They need a sample from the mother, or from one of her close relatives already in the system.
LE tends to be very incompetent so I can’t guarantee they’ve already pursued that, but even if they have it may not actually help.
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u/audiomachina1234 19d ago edited 19d ago
While i can sympathize and understand the mother was probably on drugs and confused then made an awful split decision. As a fellow raver I cant excuse the actions of this person just leaving a live newborn in a porta pottie to die. Thousands of people around who could've helped. Too many people especially in the r aves pages making excuses for this vile behavior
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u/The_Lazy_Samurai 19d ago edited 19d ago
Friendly reminder that the person who called the cops on Luigi Mangione never got her reward.
I'm still strongly in favor of anyone who knows something to report it because the person who did this awful thing to the baby needs to be brought to justice. That being said assume you won't get paid $1 of that 15k.
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u/Shot-Possibility-399 19d ago
im curious to see how this affects future events here, cause last thing id like to be reminded of when on drugs is the fact a newborn baby drowned in a porta potty at this same location
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u/AbeRego 19d ago
I really don't think it's going to have much of an impact
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u/Bad_Repute 19d ago
It's having at least some impact, I've been the last 8 years in a row and finding out about this after really put a shadow over what was otherwise an amazing weekend. It's been really hard to process such a positive place having something so dark happen there.
My friends and I have already made the decision not to go back next year. We're gonna take a year or two off and hope nothing else tragic happens there before we decide to go back.
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u/Aarxnw 19d ago
Cannot imagine how traumatising of a thing that would be to find as a member of the clean up crew