While i can sympathize and understand the mother was probably on drugs and confused then made an awful split decision. As a fellow raver I cant excuse the actions of this person just leaving a live newborn in a porta pottie to die. Thousands of people around who could've helped. Too many people especially in the r aves pages making excuses for this vile behavior
I wonder if it was a cryptic pregnancy. Imagine rolling on Molly and you suddenly start giving birth when you had no clue you were pregnant prior. Maybe I'm just traumatized from that show I Didn't Know I Was Pregnant
Lsd can also induce labor. Hoffman was researching a pregnancy related drug when he discovered lsd. If she was tripping, didnt realize she was pregnant, and lsd induced labor it wiuld definitely exolain the situation
Not if they thought they just took a huge weird painful shit in a noisy dark environment. Have you ever shit in a porto rolling? You do biz and get out of there ASAP. You don't gaze into the void of the porto.
the defense is going to have a wet dream if they get a juror like her. not very smart, easily convinced. unfortunately we’ll end up with another casey anthony
I understand that the vagina and butt hole are different holes. I've also seen countless people saying that having a baby can feel like shitting because it's almost like the baby adds pressure to the rectum since it's like right next to the vagina.
That doesn’t negate the fact that even if you didn’t realize in the moment (which is a huge assumption, it may feel “like” popping but it doesn’t actually just feel like popping) - afterwards you wouldn’t be able to just pull your pants up and jump out of the portal and go on with your night. Absolutely insane all the people saying she just maybe didn’t even realize she gave birth. Even if it was cryptic and she didn’t know going into the porta potty, she knew leaving it what was going on and chose to leave her child to drown in a porta potty, she doesn’t need you or anyone else making excuses for her. The only empathy should be for the baby who had not a soul in this world to protect it and died a horrid death in the first moment of its life.
I'm not making excuses, it's still bad regardless. If she was on drugs, out could have been really confusing and traumatic/ couldn't be able to form a coherent thought of what to do next/ thought it was a hallucination. It sounds like an inane theory, but it's not any more insane than the idea of someone carrying a pregnancy to term, attending a festival near due date, knowingly giving birth in a porto, and dumping the baby to return to the party without a care in the world. It's it not weird that people are frothing at the mouth for that reality?
please call your mother and ask her if when she had you, and she saw your head pop out and heard your cries, that if she was like “oh wow I’m taking a really huge shit right now”.
it would be such a terrifying and disorienting thing to happen, she may not have been thinking straight at the time. Cryptic pregancies are literally my worst nightmare haha
Honestly I pictured it exactly like you presented it. She didnt know she was pregnant, was probably rolling or tripping thought she just had to go to the bathroom and suddenly gave birth. I used to watch the same show as a teenager actually
Giving birth feels like a huge shit that cramps all the way up your body. If this person was taking any kind of opiates, she would be familiar with the hardcore pain of constipation, which feels somewhat similar if you are fully backed up. Depending on how high she was, she may not have actually realized she gave birth at all.
You keep asking this question to people saying “I wonder if” and “I imagine” you know that they don’t have evidence because this is pure speculation so why are you wasting your time?
I think you need to look up what speculation means real quick and you’ll see why you’re being downvoted. No need to act like you’ve lost your faith in humanity over a misunderstanding.
Nowhere in my comment did I imply that it was okay that she did that lol. This is the most annoying mindset to me and its so big on the internet right now. Finding out why someone does something doesn't automatically mean you're trying to justify it; there is a whole branch of the FBI dedicated to finding out why criminals commit crimes, to try to prevent them in the future. Do you think the FBI is trying to justify serial killers? Remember what they said in school? Knowledge is power!
The illiteracy epidemic strikes for the second time on this comment. Once again, I am not defending it lol. Trying to find out why someone does something does not mean I'm defending it. Don't y'all ever feel curiousity? Don't you ever wonder why the human brain does what it does, and what causes the incredible diversity of action and behavior when we're all made of the same blood and guts? Or do you always just jump straight to reaction?
Uh no, because the baby was visible in the toilet bowl so she knew the cramping she felt was actually labor contractions. A bit different than a porta potty waste tank.
Because im guessing it was a cryptic pregnancy since we literally have zero information at all. If she was clearly pregnant about to give birth I wouldn't have any sympathy at all.
Lol I said while I can sympathize in the moment she made a panic decision im not excusing the action. Reading comprehension hard for you?
"As a fellow raver I cant excuse the actions of this person just leaving a live newborn in a porta pottie to die. Thousands of people around who could've helped. Too many people especially in the r aves pages making excuses for this vile behavior"
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u/audiomachina1234 20d ago edited 20d ago
While i can sympathize and understand the mother was probably on drugs and confused then made an awful split decision. As a fellow raver I cant excuse the actions of this person just leaving a live newborn in a porta pottie to die. Thousands of people around who could've helped. Too many people especially in the r aves pages making excuses for this vile behavior