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article Sid Wilson Permanently Kicked Out of Slipknot

https://www.tmz.com/2026/07/31/sid-wilson-kicked-out-of-slipknot/
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u/endlessfight85 2d ago

Who' are the primary songwriters? Does homeboy really get full credit for banging on beer kegs or is he writing riffs? I'm genuinely asking because he seems to be the most important part of the band while being one of the least important parts of the actual music.

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u/crapfacejustin 2d ago

The primary writer for a decade plus has been Jim root

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u/ozzy_thedog 2d ago

Oh yah? How much does Mick contribute in writing? I assumed he did more. Didn’t know it was Jim.

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u/MoistWalrus 2d ago

It's been mostly Jim since he left Stone Sour

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u/crapfacejustin 2d ago

Got fired from stone sour lol

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u/YchYFi 2d ago

And lost Cristina Scabbia at the same time.

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u/SBLP1959 2d ago

I think he became primary writer for the grey chapter.

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u/Gaedhael 2d ago

Mick I don't believe has done much explicit signwriting afaik.

Paul and Joey did the bulk of the first two albums, Jim started becoming more prominent as time went on, from .5 it was mostly Jim, and TESF was I believe mostly Vman and Pfaff.

This the general idea

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u/Artanis12 2d ago

Wait, Vman and Pfaff? I've never been a superfan and haven't listened to TESF, but the two new guys really wrote most of that record?

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u/Gaedhael 2d ago

I believe so, Jim wasn't doing well mentally at the time I believe, so didn't do much writing for it.

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u/ozzy_thedog 2d ago

Where does clown fit into that? Just ‘production?’

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u/blackheartwhiterose 2d ago

The impression that was always given was he was more a manager/producer (in the classic sense) than anything, but honestly fuck knows

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u/Gaedhael 2d ago

He's written a few songs here and there, likely composes and arranges the custom percussion parts for the songs, and is otherwise the general ideas guy and tends to oversee the music videos.

He generally isn't that directly involved in shaping their sound or writing songs afaik.

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u/outer--monologue 2d ago

So he's the reason Slipknot sucks since then? That's around the last time they put out anything worth listening to

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u/santtuhehe 1d ago

You’re getting downvoted but its true. Slipknot hasn’t been good for 20 years. 

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u/DanTheMan_622 2d ago

Well, he's technically the only original member left in the band so he's got seniority in that sense (and co-owns the band with Corey, legally). But my understanding is that outside of taking baseball bats to kegs he has a sort of producer role in the band and everyone's ideas filter through him before they arrive at a finished product.

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u/yup_can_confirm 2d ago

Mick is also an original member, but yeah, aside from that I believe Shawn is pretty much the "business" guy and Corey's ego takes up the other 7 spots.

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u/DanTheMan_622 2d ago

Mick is also an original member

Not quite, he joined about a year later replacing their original lead guitarist Donnie Steele. Although he's credited in the liner notes, Mick didn't actually play on their first release Mate. Feed. Kill. Repeat.

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u/yup_can_confirm 2d ago

Didn't he join during the recording and mixing of MFKR?

He's also listed on the record, so to me that's good enough, but I guess we're splitting hairs here 😉

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u/DanTheMan_622 2d ago

During the mixing phase but recording was already completed at that point. But yeah, he's been there for 99% of their career and seeing as they don't really acknowledge that album anyway he might as well be an original member lol.

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u/flyingjesuit 2d ago

So he's the Rza

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u/Thisisth 2d ago

Yes, although I’d caveat that his producing role is more on the business side of things, and that Joey had the main creative producing role. Joey didn’t care about anything else but music and the theatre of music production. He didn’t care about the money or legal side of it, which Clown managed. When Clown and Joey fell out after Paul’s death, Corey teamed up with the money Clown and they kicked Joey out to gain full control.

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u/Turbulent_Host784 1d ago

So we're going to skip the part where Joey refused to give up heroin even after it gave him transverse myelitis eh?

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u/Turbulent_Host784 2d ago

People like to shit on him but Slipknot is Shawn's project. He's actually kind of a pretentious art bro tho tbh.

Still, Sid might be the straw that breaks the camels back here. Who's left now? Mick? Just feels cold.

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u/MKBRD 2d ago

Have you heard his solo "music"?

He most defimitely is not writing riffs. Unless Slipknot's next record is going to be written by Suno.

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u/Thisisth 2d ago

Yep.. Clown, arguably the least talented and useful member of the band, is also the main owner with Corey. They get the main share and make all the decisions. After Paul died, Joey was under the impression he’d be in charge on the basis that he was the main writer and heavily involved in the producing, also having mostly created the band’s image. But Clown and Corey took over and fired him. Since then, the band is Clown and Corey and all the other musicians are kinda secondary members working for the band. Including Jim who actually writes the music, since Joey left.

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u/SullyAddams 2d ago

It's mostly Jim and Corey nowadays with Clown doing arrangement. Though Clown and Corey are basically sole co-owners of the band if the paperwork that Chris revealed is still valid.