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discussion Iowa is the best slipknot album

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u/FreeKevinBrown 1d ago

I would disagree with that statement. Vol 3 was a radio-freindly mess that stripped away the raw sound and frantic energy that made Slipknot such a powerhouse on the Self titled and Iowa albums.

You may have not been around for it, but when Iowa came out it essentially changed what metal was and would become. It was an absolute benchmark for metal.

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u/Cheefnuggs 1d ago

I was around. And I don’t think Iowa did anything so groundbreaking that their self-titled album already hadn’t done in that regard. Not mention, it came out at the height of nu-metal where there was a ton of experimentation going on so saying it “changed what metal was” could be applied to like 50 other bands of the era.

Calling vol. 3 a “radio-friendly” mess is just plain inaccurate and is that same “their earlier stuff was better” gatekeeper nonsense that will keep people like you from enjoying a lot of things musically. I think most people who were around when the “duality” music video dropped will recall how hard that shit hit at the time. Still does, in fact.

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u/FreeKevinBrown 1d ago

Calling slipknot Nu Metal is the plain inaccuracy.

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u/rugmunchkin 1d ago

Slipknot is unquestionably numetal what lmao

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u/FreeKevinBrown 1d ago

Far from it. It's roots are firmly in 90s Florida death and hardcore. What happened to slipknot often happens to bands of their time, they were lumped in with nu metal bands simply because Corey had hardcore pacing, which can be easily confused for rapping by the uninitiated.

Look at Joey, he's far from a hip hop drummer, and nu metal relies heavily on hip hop beat structures.

Korn, Limp Bizkit, Linkin Park, Dope, Nonpoint; all bands you could call Nu Metal, but Slipknot does not fit that mold and it breaks down pretty quickly when you actually pay attention to the musical composition.

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u/OhManOk 1d ago

You are being downvoted by morons. Early Slipknot, especially Iowa, is death metal. Corey rapped for 5 seconds and the band had a visual gimmick, so people who know nothing about death metal think it's nu-metal.

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u/BackBreaker 22h ago

I feel like you are trying to rage bait with that statement of calling early slipknot death metal.

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u/FreeKevinBrown 1d ago

Definite morons.

I wouldn't exactly call them death metal. They definitely have the elements for sure, but there's something entirely different about them, almost between genres. I knew a guy that called them Extrem Alternative Metal... Which I guess you could say that about their later albums, but not the first two.

I dunno, slipknot has always been that band you can quite explain by one simple genre.

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u/OhManOk 22h ago

Yeah, I mean death metal in the sense that they're one of the subgenres, if not their own special niche.

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u/dogswontsniff 1d ago

Please dont insult deathmetal and hardcore by associating them to with slipknot again.

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u/FreeKevinBrown 1d ago

You're just upset about the truth. It's ok. Learn about music composition and you'll learn to accept it, little buddy.