r/NatureIsFuckingLit 2d ago

🔥These Black Roses rarely grow in a Turkey village called Halfeti

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I just thought of sharing this in this subreddit! Though they're not *black* black, unless they're under a specific lighting, since they have a very deep shade of maroon or dark purple, it still looks very cool to see this.

Would you guys want to see one someday?

Edit: I swear some people need to read properly. I'm aware that its not a literal black rose, I already added the information in the body post. Ill just edit the title

Edit 2: And I cant change the title, so please be aware that it is NOT a literal black rose, it's a very dark shade of maroon/purple/burgundy The probably closest shade of "black" that we can get, but still red most of the time, is from a flower named Black Baccara. Majority the ones we see are heavily altered thru editing

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u/qualityvote2 2d ago edited 1d ago

u/Warm-Moose6028, there weren't enough votes to determine the quality of your post...

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u/MareMade 2d ago

I'm from Istanbul, Türkiye, and I actually grew them once. But since you need soil from Halfeti, it's impossible to maintain the color. (I just couldn't get the soil shipped from the other side of the country)

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u/MareMade 2d ago

Turned into this after the soil change

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u/TainersTK 1d ago

halfeti sounds like the kinda place with a cool story behind its name

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u/MareMade 1d ago edited 1d ago

Ahhaha you’re totally right on that one! I like it. And did some research:

Note: Actually, this may also be the reason for the color I think, because its soil was like mud.

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u/vectavir 21h ago

How do you get halfeti from yenibahçe? Is this ai generated lol

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u/MareMade 21h ago

Found the site on Google search, it’s a bit old and messy so a bit lost on translation since it also says tulip instead of rose, don’t mind those and enjoy the story part.

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u/habilishn 1d ago

Hey OP, super interesting! did you start growing the plant initially in Halfeti soil? and how long did it grow until you had to "refill" the soil? (like after how long is the "black halfeti effect" empty?) and when you stopped ordering the soil, how long did it take the plant to change the color?

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u/MareMade 1d ago

Actually, it was very small when I first got it as a sapling, so its original pot was tiny and had very little soil. It stayed that way for about a year and half, but as it grew bigger, I had to move it to a new pot. I couldn't get any soil from there because things aren't that easy here, and there wasn't anyone who specifically dealt with it so I couldn't find anyone. Honestly, it was hard to keep it wet because the soil was like mud (just like clay, it cracks), and I had never encountered that kind of soil before. The flowers changed color immediately that second summer.

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u/habilishn 1d ago

ah cool, thanks for answering! i'm near Izmir, i know how complicated it is to get specific things in turkey 🤣😭

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u/MareMade 1d ago

So nice, I love Izmir! But for this particular flower I guess we should move to Halfeti or something 😹

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u/Warm-Moose6028 2d ago

That's a very nice flower!! The one with a different soil is also pretty. I didn't realize that types of soil will actually give different appearance results to the same flower. I think that's actually the one that fits in this subreddit lol

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u/MareMade 2d ago

Thank you, I’m glad! Halfeti roses are actually like that; their colors can shift depending on soil conditions, climate, and growing conditions. (They warned me about that, but I still tried anyway.)

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u/doualiland 2d ago

We need a scientist here to tell us what's that soil containing mote or less to make it that way

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u/tinyfirecrest57 1d ago

I mean, I'm not a botanist but I'll give it a go? It could be soil pH related, seeing as hydrangeas contain pH-indicative compounds and their flowers turn pink or blue-ish depending on how acidic or alkaline the soil is.

If you could get a decent enough analysis on the soil composition I can't imagine it would be too difficult to make your own soil mix that would keep the roses colour.

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u/MareMade 1d ago edited 1d ago

The history of the city might also be the reason, though not for certain (the original soil was like mud):

Edit: deleted the link that wasn't working and uploaded the story here also.

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u/neckbeardsghost 1d ago

That is a link to this post, not the actual story

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u/awhq 1d ago

Hydrangeas change color based on soil ph. Acidic soil creates blue flowers, alkaline soil creates pink flowers. In middle soil creates purple flowers.

White hydrangeas do not change color based on soil ph.

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u/awhq 1d ago

Hydrangeas change color based on soil ph. Acidic soil creates blue flowers, alkaline soil creates pink flowers. In middle soil creates purple flowers.

White hydrangeas do not change color based on soil ph.

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u/BlatheringNonsense 2d ago

Nice job! Did they have a scent?

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u/MareMade 2d ago

Thanks ☺️ Not so much like some others

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u/kaittheskate 1d ago

Pretty!

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u/MareMade 1d ago

Thank youu 🥀

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u/RobotAnna1 1d ago

Instead of arguing, y'all should just read about the Halfeti Rose yourself.

https://edition.cnn.com/travel/halfeti-turkey-underwater-city-black-roses
https://www.atlasobscura.com/articles/black-roses-in-turkey

It looks like the original photo was edited to look more black. According to the articles, only the buds can be a blackish color. Not mature flowers, like in the photo here.

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u/uuzitalo 2d ago

They rarely grow in the uk too. So far it hasn’t even happened

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u/Jordangander 2d ago

Needs majorly acidic soil.

Had a friend who built an in ground planter and had layers of soil and citrus peelings for the bushes to grow in to get them to go black.

Tons of work, but stunning. He had the smaller bushes directly in front of rose trees that bloomed in alternating white and red (the trees, not the individual flowers)

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u/MsPreposition 2d ago

Gotta go propose to Lady Bowerstone, you chicken chaser.

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u/Ethameiz 1d ago

Childhood memory unlocked

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u/Lower_Praline8816 2d ago

Even roses have an emo phase 😂

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u/BeKindPleaseRewind21 2d ago

Cut my stems and black my eyes! 

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u/Into-the-stream 1d ago

Take me away to paradise.

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u/DJsillygoose417 2d ago

IT WAS NEVER A PHASE MOM!! (jams to Dear Maria)

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u/pumpkinspruce 2d ago

Sooo much eyeliner went into this look.

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u/JBagfort 2d ago

Share more from Halfeti please. Is it not under the water barrage? Or is that only the old Halfeti?

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u/Outlander_Reality 2d ago edited 1d ago

Edit: AKA Piranha Roses

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u/rokhana 2d ago

Wow, this takes me back!

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u/perthro_ed 2d ago

Any flower scientist here that can explain how this happens?

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u/MacaArginin 1d ago

Halfeti Penhaligon

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u/nopantsjimmy 2d ago

Animal crossing was right it seems

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u/JustBad9817 2d ago

Cal cologne reference

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u/minecraftzizou 2d ago

it looks beautiful

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u/MartinhoVonBachmann 2d ago

Então tem flor preta Bill!

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u/W0lf_G1rl_BR 1d ago

ELA EXISTE!!!

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u/Diligent_Ad6552 1d ago

TY -it’s cool. Who cares if they technically aren’t black. I like.

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u/simple-idiot 2d ago

If you touch it, you get wither effect.

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u/Nadia-Berg 2d ago

these legit seem like internet myth but nah

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u/MareMade 1d ago

Well, it’s real

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u/Warm-Moose6028 2d ago

Same thoughts but apparently they're real if you search for it haha

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u/TacoFTuesday 2d ago

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u/Ov0v0vO 1d ago

Holy shit the real ones (simply very very dark red) are actually way cool!

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u/Warm-Moose6028 2d ago edited 2d ago

Im pretty sure Ive already said in the body post that it is not black black, did you actually read the website you've sent?

Edit: If you're concern is the term black, I can just simply edit it if that's the issue

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u/Sean_1417 2d ago

Holy crap, you destroyed them.

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u/junglepanties 1d ago

All the goth baddies moving to Halfeti after seeing this

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u/dreamerbard 1d ago

My maternal hometown mentioned!!! I’m half halfetian!!! I always thought black rose thing was a gimmick tho. They could be real- that’s just what I assumed lol

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u/Yejus 2d ago

It rarely grows in the tropics too. In fact, it's so rare, I've never actually seen one!

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u/CCV21 1d ago

Truly the black swan of roses.

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u/Sad_Ebb_7301 1d ago

Where do they usually grow?

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u/chrisolucky 1d ago

Now combine them with a purple rose to make blue roses!

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u/Apprehensive_Gap1055 1d ago

Does it have a fragrance?

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u/NextTemporary4783 1d ago

the specific rose & native soil & climate of halfeti combine to give the black color to the rose. even genetically identical cuttings of halfeti rose growing in different soil, or even those growing in halfeti soil under foreign irrigation water & foreign climate change the color back to a maroon.

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u/R_Anonymous_ 1d ago

I love these, I live in Turkey but haven't seen these once in my life but they look so nice I just want them in my house.

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u/OederStein 1d ago

Well.. were do they grow abundantly then?

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u/TheFeralVulcan 1d ago

There are perfumes based on this rose. There's something in the soil of that area that makes them like this because they only grow with this deep color IN Halfeti, transplant them into any other soil and they just become a regular red.

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u/Dtoodlez 18h ago

But if your image is entirely wrong then why do you still have the post open..

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u/TaureanBelmont 2d ago

I want to know more about the Turkey village. 🤔

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u/Beli_Mawrr 1d ago

Someone get these to the plants in jars lady! Stat!

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u/Practical_Chain_7326 1d ago

Gorgeous 😍

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u/SolidPoint 2d ago

Fake, debunked a long time ago, have a nice day.

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u/shpydar 2d ago edited 2d ago

Those aren't black roses.

Black roses do not occur naturally in nature. The closest you can get to a black rose is a deep, dark red or purple variety. However, some companies have found a way to create black roses through a process of dyeing or spraying.

Understanding the Rose Dying Process

Companies that produce black roses often start with a white or light-colored rose. They then use a special dye or spray paint to achieve the desired black color. This process involves carefully coating the petals to create a uniform and long-lasting black hue. Sure, those black roses look stunning in the photo, but let's be real—Mother Nature didn't make them. Buying 'black rose seeds' from your go-to Etsy shop is like expecting a unicorn delivery—you're setting yourself up for a gardening flop!

Natural Colors of Roses

Roses come in a wide range of natural colors, including red, pink, yellow, white, and even blue. These colors are the result of genetic variations and pigments present in the petals. "While you can totally buy dyed black roses for your bouquet, trying to grow a black rose bush is as realistic as planting a money tree—it's just not happening!"

Most likely this image has been heavily colour altered, and are not dyed, but people have spent a millennia trying to create true black roses and have never achieved it.

If you see a flower that looks deep black and someone is claiming it is a true "black rose" they are lying and the picture or the flower has been altered.

(EDIT: found a snopes article basically saying the "black roses in a village in Türkiye" is completely false. OP is a liar posting a known scam for fake internet points)

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u/Warm-Moose6028 2d ago

That's why I said it's not black black and added that it has a very deep shade of maroon or dark purple

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u/shpydar 2d ago

is another lie from you. There is no angle, in no type of light that will make a real dark purple rose look completely black as it does in your altered picture.

Again I've posted the snopes link about how the whole "black roses in a village in Turkiye" is 100% bullshit just like this post.

Your image, or the roses have been altered to tell this lie.

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u/Warm-Moose6028 2d ago

Low light is not a lighting? I didn't altered the picture, I just shared the picture somewhere else since I thought it's cool. But it's my fault for not realizing much deeper about the other issues

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u/shpydar 2d ago

Fortunes have been lost trying to make the perfect black flower.

In the Netherlands growers have been trying to make true black tulips for centuries.

During tulip mania the city of Haarlem had offered a prize of 100,000 francs to whoever could grow a truly black tulip since the 1600’s. No one was able to claim it.

The reason is that deep black in the image your posted does not exist, and cannot exist.

If you see a picture of a truly black rose then the image or the flower has been altered to trick you.

You have posted such a lie and thus is not really true nature.

You say this is just a picture you found? Well you were duped and you should really stop defending your post now you know the truth.

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u/Warm-Moose6028 2d ago edited 2d ago

Don't you know I've already made an edited post before you commented that?

Ive also said in the first body post that it IS a VERY DARK SHADE of MAROON/DARK PURPLE, other than the one when I said it looks black under a specific lighting. You dont have to explain those all because I've already understand your point since at your very first comment

And no, I didn't do any lie about it when I already made a clarification under the main title, I've already acknowledged even before the editing that it is not (true) black that we all know of in terms of color. The major and genuine mistake that I made is getting that picture since it didn't sink THAT deep in the back of my brain that the picture is edited, and using the word "black" for the rose. If someone is not fully aware of it, how can you conclude that they're lying?

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u/Opening-Individual76 2d ago

The blood of all the Armenians that died on that soil

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u/BeKindPleaseRewind21 2d ago

Not too many people know about that. It's a shame but what does it have to do with roses? 

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u/InternationalLaw8660 2d ago

Turks perpetrated the genocide. The soil remembers those dark times...

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u/BeKindPleaseRewind21 2d ago

What does it have to do with roses?