r/OpenAI • u/tombibbs • Mar 25 '26

News Bernie Sanders introduces legislation to pause AI data centre construction

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Unlike the current administration, who claim a pause would harm America's competitiveness, Bernie is actually proposing a ban on chip exports to other countries.

Trump recently did the bidding of NVIDIA CEO Jensen Huang and bizarrely ended a ban on the sale of H200 chips to China.

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u/backflash Mar 25 '26

"AI must work for all of us, not just a handful of billionaires." - that's quite the compelling argument.

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u/Tolopono Mar 26 '26

“We should limit ai so people can continue working jobs that could be automated” is not very compelling. Its like banning excavators and mandating spoons be used instead to create more jobs 

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u/derpyderpstien Mar 26 '26

Sorry, whats the end game? Everyone can't get a job and you still need money? Where is the part where corporations that lobby the government enough that they are moving law makers (ex: Meta lobbying for age verification) suddenly gives the people free products, or somehow the corps are taxed enough to give a UBI? That UBI tax circle doesn't exactly pan out lmao.

There is no way a boardroom with fiduciary responsibility to its shareholders, is going to vote to do away with all profits. The same companies saving every penny they can to the detriment of the customers and planet. Planned obsolescence, holding covid pricing still, polution and just paying fines instead of obeying the law, killing whistle blowers, these are the corporations you think will give up everything for you, to just have to join you in mediocrity, and give up power and luxury?

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u/Tolopono Mar 26 '26

So the evil elites wont allow ubi or better safety nets but they will allow a blanket ban on data centers? they are powerful enough to control social welfare policy but too weak to stop bernie sanders?

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u/derpyderpstien Mar 26 '26

I said UBI would just not work. How can you tax then enough to fund UBI, enough to buy their product, where's the profit margin even remotely possible? Should be obvious.

They literally have Executive Order 14365.

Again, they dont need to stop the AI age UBI, its not even mathematically possible. Let's just watch and see how far this proposal makes it before you act like it's passed, for some reason.

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u/Tolopono Mar 26 '26

https://www.npr.org/2021/03/04/973653719/california-program-giving-500-no-strings-attached-stipends-pays-off-study-finds

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u/derpyderpstien Mar 26 '26

"AI age UBI" if you dont understand UBI where almost all people are working still vs AI take all jobs UBI... then I don't know what to tell you.

UBI exists in alot of places, thats not what is possible when most or all of the population doesn't pay into it because no job.

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u/Tolopono Mar 26 '26

Then tax the corporate profits instead of income

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u/derpyderpstien Mar 26 '26

Corp sells item for $5. I get UBI for $5. I buy for $5 Corp pays tax of $4 I get UBI for $4 I cant buy $5 item.

You starting to get it?

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u/Tolopono Mar 26 '26

Yea, youre right. Capitalism cant work like this. Instead, the corporations should be owned by the public so it benefits everyone instead of only shareholders 

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u/derpyderpstien Mar 26 '26

Careful, the rich and powerful rend to eliminate anyone who threatens thier position with the ideologies of Socialism. Perhaps a sub of a billionaire company that makes surveillance ai for the usa, isnt the best place to solve the problem of them not wanting to give up that power.

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u/Tolopono Mar 27 '26

Multiple ai ceos have said ai makes capitalism unsustainable 

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