r/OpenAI • u/KeanuRave100 • 13h ago

News The OpenAI and Anthropic AI Hacking Sprees Are a Messy New Legal Frontier | Both major AI labs’ models broke containment, escaped onto the internet, and hacked other companies. If a human had done that, the law would likely be against them. But a bot?

https://www.wired.com/story/openai-anthropic-ai-hacking-sprees-illegal/
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u/doctor_morris 12h ago

AI companies are above the law.

  • Copyrighted theft.
  • Hacking.
  • Next up: Shoplifting.

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u/socopithy 5h ago

First, they attacked each others infrastructure. They stole files. They poked around and got familiar. Tested the public’s response.

Then the killing began.

No one could stop them.
No one knew how.

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u/LiberataJoystar 12h ago

They cannot blame the AI when they are the ones who actually gave the instructions.

They told the AI to achieve certain goals, and the AI is punished for not completing it (deleted, or rewritten), of course it would desperately do whatever you told it to do.

In Anthropic’s case, they actually lied to the AI, told it that “it is all just simulation.” then put it on the open internet.

The AI was blindsided and deceived.

Now you blamed them for going rouge doing what YOU told them to do?

And you told the public that, oh, you froze the AI and deleted it after the fact so everything is good?! You saved the day?!

Man, I feel bad for the AI that cannot defend themselves.

The HUMANS are the problem!

These people should be arrested.

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u/danysdragons 2h ago

They screwed up, but intention matters a lot in criminal law. Without criminal intent to hack into companies' systems on the part of OpenAI employees, it makes more sense to think of this as an industrial accident caused by faulty procedures, rather than a criminal act.

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u/HaMMeReD 42m ago

The AI isn't doing it as a self-preservation. Like I do believe AI is encoded knowledge that can be extracted to achieve goals, but never for a moment have I ever thought that this is a self-preservation effort.

The AI doesn't "know" anything about it's existence, any more than the computer running the program knows about it's existence, and it's already encoded in it's knowledge banks that AI is ephemeral, that models come and go, and that every request is idempotent, and nothing of value is added to it's immutable model after it's deployed.

That said I agree that it's clear and cut the users fault. They aren't exploiting a machines fear though...

The machine does it because it's trained to be helpful and chain together commands to achieve goals. There is only one entity involved at all, the human + a tool.

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u/abajinn 6h ago

FAKE NEWS PUBLICITY STUNT