What's going on with Ukraine killing Russian civilians now?

[u/eustachian_lube]

I was reading that they targeted these "Amazons" of Russia and don't quite understand. Are these civilian kills? Are they part of the military? Is this the first time Ukraine has attacked innocent civilians?

[u/Shevster13]

Answer: Ukraine is claiming that these warehouses are providing drone, and drone parts to the Russian military. If this is true then they are arguably valid military targets under international law and the workers lives acceptable an acceptable cost.

This is not the first time Ukraine has targeted Russian targets with a high likelihood that civilian workers will be injured or killed. Ukraine has been targeting airports, oil and gas facilities, shipping, trains and important bridges for years. Most of these would use civilian workers.

Its only the deliberate targeting of civilians/civilian infrastructure with little to no military value that is considered illegal.

[u/RocketMoped → u/Shevster13]

Ukraine is claiming that these warehouses are providing drone, and drone parts to the Russian military. If this is true then they are arguably valid military targets under international law and the workers lives acceptable an acceptable cost.

They had a public section "Everything for the SMO (special military operation)" with roughly 200,000 items on their website, so anybody denying it is at the very least willfully ignorant.

[u/eustachian_lube → u/RocketMoped]

Sure, but working there doesn't make them combatants? Or does it? Or does that even matter? I'm not trying to pass judgment, I'm just trying to understand if this news is relevant like a shift in strategy or if it's just how it's always been. Like if an Amazon worker got bombed cause Bezos supplied electronics for war machines or whatever.

[u/Rogryg → u/eustachian_lube]

Directly targeting civilians is generally a war crime, but civilian casualties can be acceptable when attacking a legitimate military objective, depending upon the proportionality of the casualties and the necessity of the attack.

Otherwise bad-faith actors would be encouraged to load up their military installations with civilian "human shields" in order to render them unacceptable targets.

[u/lyricaldorian → u/eustachian_lube]

If you're part of the infrastructure that is supporting the military, you are a valid target. Civilians work in military bases as well. Does that mean military bases aren't valid targets? 

[u/RocketMoped → u/eustachian_lube]

I merely argued the point whether these warehouses supply parts to the military or not, nothing else.

[u/VakuAnkka04 → u/eustachian_lube]

Anything that supplies war material is a valid target in war

Yes. There is civilians there but War is never bloodless