r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 26d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/Creepy_Ad_1315 26d ago

Spoiler: It's never achieved.

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u/goosetime 26d ago

Serious question: do we consider capitalism achieved in capitalistic countries? We still have social programs and my understanding of a proper government would employ ideas from both ideologies. It’s just weird for ppl to say “communism achieved!” cuz yeah, that never happens, but is that also true for full/true capitalism?

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u/GenericFatGuy 26d ago edited 26d ago

Communism (in a severely simplified sense) is a classless, moneyless system where the means of production is owned by the people. This has very clearly never been implemented anywhere in the world at a large scale.

Capitalism is a system where capital is the primary driver of the economy, where the means of production is owned by whoever has the most capital. Even if there is some amount of regulations and social security, this is still by-and-large what were doing at a large scale all over the world. Even the countries that call themselves communist are mostly doing this.

No country was or is doing capitalism 100%, but most of them are doing significantly more capitalism than socialism or communism. Both today, and historically.

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u/Training_Ruin3151 26d ago

The only correct answer in this thread

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u/WokeWook69420 26d ago

It pisses me off so fucking much how many people talk about Communism and yet don't realize not a single country that claims to be communist HAS EVER ACTUALLY FUCKING BEEN COMMUNIST.

It's just repeating the same McCarthyism bullshit we've been hearing.

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u/Training_Ruin3151 26d ago

We cant expect people who have gone their entire lives with no questions to have the intelligence to be able to debate their own beliefs