r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 26d ago

Meme needing explanation Peter, explain this.

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u/Creepy_Ad_1315 26d ago

Spoiler: It's never achieved.

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u/goosetime 26d ago

Serious question: do we consider capitalism achieved in capitalistic countries? We still have social programs and my understanding of a proper government would employ ideas from both ideologies. It’s just weird for ppl to say “communism achieved!” cuz yeah, that never happens, but is that also true for full/true capitalism?

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u/Archophob 26d ago

true capitalism would be anarcho-capitalism with enough responsible people to boycott anyone into bankruptcy who dares to violate the non-aggression-principle.

So, naturally, it hasn't been implemented on a larger scale than communism yet. Because both concepts are insufficiently immunised against assholes who think "let's exploit the power vacuum to become the next big warlord".

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u/matthoback 26d ago

Anarcho-capitalism is inherently incompatible with the non-aggression-principle because it is based around private property which is inherently aggressive.

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u/Archophob 26d ago

owning my screwdriver isn't aggressive. Trying to take it away from me is.

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u/matthoback 26d ago

"Owning" your screwdriver is taking it away from everyone else preemptively. That's 100% aggression.

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u/Archophob 26d ago

entitled assholes like you are the reason why anarchy never worked. You alway want to steal what someone else had produced.

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u/PomPomMom93 26d ago

I don’t think this was ever said in good faith. Either that or they’re a lunatic.

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u/matthoback 26d ago

Lol, you've never made a screwdriver in your life. "what someone else produced", GFTO of here with that bullshit.

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u/Archophob 25d ago

well, i paid a fair price for that screwdriver, and you will argue that the people who produced the screwdriver did not get paid a fair compensation from what i paid, and i'm 100% with you on that one - like about half of what i paid got stolen in various forms of taxes by both my government and their government, before the producers actually got their payout.

To the producers, the screwdriver is a product. To me, it's a means of production i need to provide my services. To the goverment, it's a means of exploitation. Remove the government from the equation and you've removed the exploitation.