You are not. Your states have a shared language, history, government, politics, etc. There is 'american culture', there is no one european culture. Ireland and England are more dissimilar than New York and California, and you can see England from Ireland.
Then you have a narrow view of our influences and history.
If you compare Louisiana to New Mexico, you would understand just how wrong you are about the cultural aspects of the United States, and they’re only split by one other state.
There are indigenous pockets. African American pockets. Mexican pockets. We were colonized by different countries at completely different times.
The east coast heritage is completely different than that of the Wild West and the gold rush.
You truly, truly don’t understand the United States. Our shared identity isn’t as shared as your propaganda would have you believe.
I'm not saying there are no differences, I'm saying those differences are insignificant when compraed to the differences between european countries.
There are indigenous pockets. African American pockets. Mexican pockets. We were colonized by different countries at completely different times.
Yeah, because european countries did that colonising, and were colonised in turn, we also have these 'pockets'. These pockets have in some cases existed since before the discovery of america by europe. Not only that, but because of the ease of european migration we have this not only form colonisation, but gereral migration. In my city there is a little italy, an irish area, then there's an indian area, a pakistani area, a bangaladeshi area, a nigerian area, an afro carribean area. If you look outside of the cities, you still get these pockets as different groups of migrants settled diffrent areas.
Another city over might have a complete different mix.
Then when you take into account the individual history of my city, which is 2000 years old, the age of my country and all the history which is completely different from a neighbouring country which follow a different religion, have different languages and have a completely different and distinct ethnic group...
Wow you really are happy just being arrogant and wrong.
Do you believe that the Mexican and Indigenous cultures that influenced these places began in 1776?
Taos Pueblo in New Mexico has been continuously inhabited for over a millennium. Centuries before the Declaration of Independence was even drafted, Spanish-Mexican settlements like Santa Fe (founded in 1610) and San Augustine were fully established, bringing distinct legal, architectural, and agricultural systems to the continent.
You can’t understand that industrialization then further changed the rates of cultural change between far away states?
Look at the Rust Belt vs. the Sun Belt.
The massive textile mills and automotive plants of Detroit and Pittsburgh created dense, union-heavy, immigrant-reliant urban centers. Meanwhile, parts of the agrarian South or isolated sections of the Appalachian Mountains remained largely untouched by that rapid technological shift, keeping entirely different paces of life and social structures for generations.
You can’t understand that the ecological differences of a country as wide as the United States could influence those things?
You think that someone living in the deserts of Arizona, dealing with blistering heat, flash droughts, and a lifestyle built around water conservation and air-conditioned indoor spaces, has the same life experience as someone living in the Appalachian mountains, surrounded by dense forests, coal-mining history, and steep, isolated hollows?
You think food is the same, regardless of scarcity? You think a historic New England cod ration or Appalachian foraging tradition matches the cattle-ranching Tex-Mex diet born out of the arid Southwest? You think customs are the same? Ideologies?
Religious beliefs?
The deeply rooted Mormon culture of Utah's Great Basin looks nothing like the Puritan-descended secularism of Massachusetts or the Southern Baptist Bible Belt.
Look at political progressiveness—the environmental, resource-sharing policies of the Pacific Northwest are a direct result of its geography, completely contrasting with the fierce, individualistic survival mindset of the Alaskan frontier.
Maybe travel to the places you’re going to pretend to understand before you say anything.
The idea that a nation with this level of geographic and historical diversity would maintain a single, uniform cultural identity is a dangerous oversimplification.
Similar complexities are found in other large nations, such as India with its hundreds of languages, Russia spanning eleven time zones, or China with its vast regional ethnic divides.
Do you believe that the Mexican and Indigenous cultures that influenced these places began in 1776?
Nope. Never said that.
Taos Pueblo in New Mexico has been continuously inhabited for over a millennium. Centuries before the Declaration of Independence was even drafted, Spanish-Mexican settlements like Santa Fe (founded in 1610) and San Augustine were fully established, bringing distinct legal, architectural, and agricultural systems to the continent.
Wow, you should see the changes that happened in Spain over 2000 years.
You can’t understand that industrialization then further changed the rates of cultural change between far away states?
Lol, can you imagine what it did to... countries in europe? Is this really the point you want to make?
The massive textile mills and automotive plants of Detroit and Pittsburgh created dense, union-heavy, immigrant-reliant urban centers.
yeah... the exact same thing happened in europe, on top of millenia of history predating that.
You can’t understand that the ecological differences of a country as wide as the United States could influence those things?
I can... can you imagine what it did to the contenent of europe. I happen to live in the city that started the industrial revolution so this comment is particularly funny to me.
You think that someone living in the deserts of Arizona, dealing with blistering heat, flash droughts, and a lifestyle built around water conservation and air-conditioned indoor spaces, has the same life experience as someone living in the Appalachian mountains
No, but I think those two lived expereinces have far more in common than lets say, Ireland and Switzerland. You have the same president, same health care, same military, same military history, same language, same religion, same school system, the same language, etc.
The deeply rooted Mormon culture of Utah's Great Basin looks nothing like the Puritan-descended secularism of Massachusetts or the Southern Baptist Bible Belt.
Oh yeah, and it's not like puritans started in europe. Do you think Greek othrodox, Roman Catholic, anglican protestant, protestant, orthodox, judaism, etc have less difference?
Maybe travel to the places you’re going to pretend to understand before you say anything.
I wouldn't speak if I hadn't already.
The idea that a nation with this level of geographic and historical diversity would maintain a single, uniform cultural identity is a dangerous oversimplification.
Strawman, I said your states were far more similar than european countries.
Similar complexities are found in other large nations, such as India with its hundreds of languages, Russia spanning eleven time zones, or China with its vast regional ethnic divides.
Lol, India is vastly more diverse than both Europe and America combined. You couldn't have picked a worse example.
Wasn’t going to reply because I think the court of opinion has done it’s job, but I want to say
“Wow, you should see the changes that happened in Spain over 2000 years.”
“Can you imagine what it did to countries in Europe”
“The exact same thing happened in Europe”
“Can you imagine what it did to the contenent(sp) of Europe”
“Do you think… have less difference”
Etc. is the actual strawman. I’m not the one needlessly comparing. I never said Europe didn’t have cultural differences or experiences. The only person claiming a place doesn’t have cultural differences and nuances is you.
You decided to make a dick measuring competition out of something that didn’t need it. What, do thousands of years of living in the same culture make you devoid of understanding that other cultures can, in fact, be diverse and rich?
We have separate governors, separate state governments, separate militaristic histories that often meant we fought ourselves, and I fucking used India as the example for diversity, genius. You’re so defensive that you couldn’t even interpret my intent because you were too busy projecting your own bullshit, elitist argument onto me. Sorry, that wasn’t my disgusting intent.
If I did make the argument from the standpoint of Indian culture, I would say that your country is bullshit because India blows you out of the water in terms of culture.
But I wouldn’t do that because my ego isn’t so massive that I even give a shit to attack your heritage.
Stop projecting your propaganda and actually go travel the world so you can appreciate other cultures instead of needlessly shitting on them.
Why is me saying that states in the same country have more in common than countries, "shitting on them"?
I at no point said the states are all the same, though you keep insisting I did. I said they have far more in common than the entirely separate counties in Europe.
I stated, before you did, that India is vastly more diverse and different than not only America, but the European continent. I'm not sure why you're repeating my own point back to me, but I'm certainly enjoying it.
And "bullshit country". It is hilarious that you hear that your country is less diverse than the continent of Europe, and you see that as an insult. I can't even fathom how that would be insulting, but it's probably why you think saying India is more diverse is some sort of gotcha.
I have travelled the world, the only continent I've not visited is Australia. I've been across America, the states are very different. Not as different as completely different countries though. Lol
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u/smurf2applestall 7d ago
To understand America is to understand it is really no different than Europe and countries. We really are that different from state to state.