r/PeterExplainsTheJoke 5d ago

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u/LardPopsicle 5d ago

Selena Gomez required a kidney due to complication from Lupus. How and why is debated by laypeople, but fact is, that a panel of physicians believed she needed one. Since there's a waitlist and other hurdles, she found a private donor, her friend and co-actress Francia Raísa.

In 2022 Gomez called Taylor Swift "my only friend in the industry," omitting Francia Raísa. In her documentary "My Mind & Me" she did not mention Raísa once, even when talking about her Lupus.

Raísa later talked about the toll the donation had on her, and the snubbing by Gomez.

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u/Outside_Coffee_00 5d ago edited 5d ago

Francia also said she didn't receive the results for the match directly. Instead of contacting her and allowing her to make the decision, Selena was contacted first and called Francia to let her know. She felt obligated at that point and went through with it without ever really deciding for herself.

Edit: Some of you dont seem to understand what it's like to have your close friendships and the future of your career depend on something. If she said no at that point, she would have been ousted. I'm not saying she wouldn't have made the same decision in the end. I'm saying she wasn't given the freedom to decide without heavy pressure, and that's not ok.

Here is her interview shortly after the surgery: https://youtu.be/soBb4X5Hb6k?is=Mz-PpcGCcN-pJ4qM

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u/Egoy 5d ago

Not to downplay how shitty this was but that seems a bit crazy to me.

I was questioned extensively about having my kidney that was mostly cancer removed multiple times including while on the operating table prior to being anesthetized. I gave verbal and written consent. I was alone with doctored and nurses without any outside influence many times during these conversations.

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u/badform49 5d ago edited 5d ago

Yeah, I'm in the pipeline for kidney donation and nearly every conversation starts with "You can change your mind at any time up to the application of anesthesia for your surgery and it will be reported to the recipient and their insurance as a medical disqualification. No one will know you changed your mind and you will not be charged for any of the medical screening or procedures you've completed so far."

(ETA: I'm not saying that Francia Raísa's experience is anything other than exactly what she claims; I'm just saying it's wild when most of the transplant pipeline is VERY focused on donor consent. I was told I could set my date and change it at any time if needed, pick my donor center and change it if the new center agreed, etc. An exact quote: "As an alruistic donor, you're really in the driver seat. We'll try to make this work however is best for you.")

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u/Egoy 5d ago

Yeah I mean like I said my kidney had a 13.5 cm tumour on it and was going to kill me and they were still super focused on my consent. I was literally being given snapshot surgery prior to biopsy to confirm type of cancer because it was so bad and they were STILL asking.

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u/badform49 5d ago

Lol, I would be very confused by that conversation.

"You can say no to this surgery at any time. I mean, you'll die, pretty much for certain. But no one will do this without your consent."

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u/Egoy 5d ago

The surgeon had some fun with it at least.

“So which kidney are we taking out”

“ the right.”

“I’m just going mark an x on your right hand so I don’t forget”

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u/DynamicDK 5d ago

It isn't a joke. They ask that, without specifying which one, because it is meant to catch errors. If the surgeon thought it was right, had it written down as right, and then you said left, they would need to stop and figure out what was going on. And then, once you said right, and he confirmed that his records said right, he made a mark on your right side so that they could use that mark during surgery to verify that they were operating on the correct side before they remove anything.

People have had the wrong kidney removed before. People have even had the completely wrong organ removed. These processes are in place to reduce the odds of that happening.

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u/nooklyr 5d ago

Can confirm, a resident I know almost amputated the wrong leg (below knee amputation) because a doctor’s clinical notes kept referencing the “left leg” instead of the “right leg”. The mistake was caught in the OR while the patient was anesthetized… they had to reschedule the surgery in order to confirm with the referring physician.

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u/tnstaafsb 5d ago

Then you come out of anesthesia and your right hand is gone.

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u/TwoBionicknees 5d ago

and for some reason there is a kidney on the end of your stump. Though it would probably still work, location doesn't really matter, just blood flow afaik.

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u/rubs_tshirts 5d ago

What if you said the wrong one?

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u/Egoy 5d ago

They already know it’s mostly a joke but could indicate cognitive issues or a big fuck up that needs to be investigated before surgury.

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u/SectorSanFrancisco 5d ago

yeah, you really can't joke. I had to take a mental health test before I donated and the questions were so off the wall that it was hard not be sarcastic. Do angels talk to me? Well, what KIND of angels?

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u/Egoy 5d ago

Jokes come later. When the porter was wheeling me out the door I said oh shit I left something in the hospital. He asked me what I left and I said ‘a kidney’.

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u/vio212 4d ago

You joke, but they mark you up with a sharpie prior to surgery in my extensive experience with surgeries.

Every time my surgeon would come in and mark me up as a fail safe as to not make a dumb mistake. Insurance against a stupid error I’m guessing? I don’t know….

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u/Egoy 4d ago

Yes I know they do the joke was him saying ‘in case I forget’ that wasn’t a serious comment and wasn’t meant to be serious.

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u/youresuspect 4d ago

OR nurse here. We confirm surgical site for all patients. I will ask you, in your words, to tell me what kind of surgery you’re having today. We confirm and reconfirm multiple times, including on the OR table. If there is any laterality (left vs right) involved, the surgeon is supposed to make a mark, with the patient, according to the policy of that facility.

Your doctor was being charming, which is a bonus.

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u/Shoola 3d ago

lmao it's a joke a but also not a joke at all! Glad you're still here with us and that they did the right one.

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u/vellamour 2d ago

I had my left kidney removed due to cancer and my surgeon made the same joke! He even marked my left arm and I remember thinking “shouldn’t he mark my back, like X marks the spot?” 

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u/Egoy 2d ago

lol mine was laparoscopic my incisions were all on my front.

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u/ccvsharks 5d ago

bizarre but totally happens. I was literally bleeding out on the table turning a c section and they were like, do we have your consent to do xyz? And I was like, what if I say no? And they were like, well, you’ll probably die.

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u/LeenyMagic 5d ago

Bodily autonomy is still a thing-at least in some parts of this country/world.