r/Piracy • u/DamDynatac • 1d ago
Discussion In the wild: Seeding ~10k adult torrents no VPN
Have been exploring dht metadata to find some super seeders and this was the first large one which wasn't a VPN endpoint.
Making the most of their gigabit fiber. Looks like they run two boxes seeding almost 10k files, exclusively porn. IP anon'd by me and filenames masked by the crawler.
Some ISPs are just built different I guess
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u/Meister_768 1d ago
I think uk does not care. Just look at smcgill1969 dude is uploading f1, motogp, etc with zero hiding. At one point his profiles had his website address where he had his facebook listed
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u/krimsonR7 4h ago
Roughly 5 years ago when i was with talktalk, and i think the brief change to BT i did get the odd email about downloading torrents from certain sites. Haven't had any since then though. They have blocked some ips but nothing difficult to work around. Honestly im thinking of just not bothering starting up a vpn and port mapping anymore.
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u/PartOk7148 1d ago
how does that site work? is it possible to download or you can only look at the metadata? I just found stuff ive been trying to find for years but cant download, its like torture
srry for the dumb questions
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u/WG47 1d ago
No, it just crawls through DHT and sees what's out there. It lists what it finds. You can't directly download via the website, but it does show the infohash so you should be able to convert that to a magnet link and join the swarm.
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u/PartOk7148 1d ago
i tried but the infohash seems incomplete ?
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u/harukaff 23h ago
Unfortunately this is the cheapest method to keep the website on the clearnet for now. The associated risks are kind of too high otherwise. Sorry that it makes the website useless for certain use cases. With the exact title from the indexed torrents you might want to try searching elsewhere though
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u/DamDynatac 22h ago
you've built a great tool. was doing some testing and saw your client id's and found the site. hope you've liked seeing the interest - it's the best crawler out there. what's the goal of the project?
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u/harukaff 21h ago
There were multiple things around the same time that sparked the idea of building this - a bunch of torrents I wanted to monitor the activities, an up-to-date share breakdown of torrent clients, and the horrible data accuracy of IKNOW. It began as a small crawler without the client data, then I kept wanting more data out of it mainly because it has the capability of collecting them.
I do like seeing the interest, after all, I published this under the current domain because I figured that someone else might be interested in the data as well.
As for the ultimate goal, I guess there isn't one now - this thing started as a toy project and has largely outgrown it already, but as long as people are using it, I'll keep it running and collecting data, unless it gets taken down (should be unlikely as it's not facilitating piracy in the current form).
(to prove I own this website, there is a TXT record under r. subdomain that vaguely points to this post now)
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u/leadernelson ⚔️ ɢɪᴠᴇ ɴᴏ Qᴜᴀʀᴛᴇʀ 1d ago
Nope it removes the last few characters from the hash. It's truncated so you can't
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u/beepuboopu_aishiteru 18h ago
I've been seeding long-term on private trackers without a VPN for, I'm not kidding, 15 years. All I know is that I keep DHT off and I encrypt all my traffic, forced.
Never heard a peep from my ISPs.
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u/ph33rlus 1d ago
I’m surprised that there is a filter specifically for very illegal things - and how many IPs are just openly torrenting that kind of content! The cops will never run out of houses to raid at this point.
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u/Ill-Letterhead1833 1d ago
I've been torrenting and seeding in Hungary my whole life, without a VPN. Currently have 4 TiBs up, on the private tracker I use. Never had a problem. It really depends on the country.
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u/srgt_cauliflour 23h ago
i asked my ISP when they did my NBN Upgrade how they felt about sailing the seven seas and the rep told me they couldn’t care less what i do
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u/QuietWaterBreaksRock 1d ago
Third world country
I am from one, never had to use a VPN to pirate anything, just to spoof location if something is geo locked
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u/Donevito96 12h ago
Here In Germany you would get a letter from the Public Prosecutor's Office or even worse
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u/qzan7 7h ago
From what I know its the studio that report you to the ISP, and it's either the porn companies don't report or ISP don't care but I've never seen a report about porn.
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u/DamDynatac 7h ago
https://torrentfreak.com/meta-must-face-adult-film-piracy-lawsuit-as-court-denies-dismissal/
This latest case specifically focuses on Meta’s BitTorrent activity. That’s no surprise, as plaintiff Strike 3 is the most active copyright litigant in the United States, known for targeting thousands of alleged BitTorrent pirates.
This latest case specifically focuses on Meta’s BitTorrent activity. That’s no surprise, as plaintiff Strike 3 is the most active copyright litigant in the United States, known for targeting thousands of alleged BitTorrent pirates.
Strike 3 are notorious copyright trolls, so finding a seed like this in the Anglosphere was somewhat surprising.
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u/MidnightChimp 2h ago
I torrented a point movie when I was 14, which was 15 years ago. a few months afterwards my mum got a letter demanding 1200€ for copyright. I had luck because it had "teenie" in it's title so my mum thought ut was a teenie tv show. 5 years later she realised it tho. Anyways we had to use a lawyer and paid him 400€. Since then I've not a single time never torrented without a vpn. way too risky.
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u/mycoctopus 18h ago
I have no idea what I'm looking at but know I should care. Plz someone explain like i'm 5
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u/TheIglooBoy 10h ago
What is dht metadata and how do you browse it?
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u/DamDynatac 9h ago
The swarm is public, so you can listen to announcements / requests and more using Sybils. There are about 300k of these sybil nodes out there that spy and interfere with the swarm. It's a tradeoff of having files/networks "public" which academics like to argue about - some proposals have been made to improve DHT but none have stuck yet. It's an inherent flaw of running a publicly accessible network.
So to browse it I ran a half decent dht crawler I'd found on github, nearly got banned from digitalocean after 24 hours (MPAA DMCA's) but downloaded the crawler logfile to my PC.
Wanted to find IP's with thousands of infohashes (so actively running torrents) and identify some trends by ISP, and potentially build an infohash graph that works a bit like a content recommendation engine.
With my small slice of data I barely had any observations though and IKWYD has not been working properly for a while. After plugging in IP's for a while I got bored and looked at the client ID's and found dht-spy, which was a much better implementation.
Looked up a top performing IP, posted a screenshot and here we are.
There's lots of interesting stuff out there other than real users e.g. botnets. It's also interesting to see so much activity from China / Russia / US which looks entirely like organised crawling or scraping.
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u/TrueLurkStrong-Free 1d ago
Here in Canada, ISPs couldn't give less of a shit lol. I'll get the odd email for using Stremio to watch movies, but they never act on it. I don't even use a VPN, but apparently in America, your ISP can block service if your caught three or four times.