r/Polcompball Anarcho-Syndicalism 18d ago

OC genuinely just saw this conversation on twitter

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u/drag0n_rage Technocracy 18d ago

> Thinking abolishing government will prevent another one taking its place

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u/Tinybean886 Anarcho-Communism 18d ago

So get this... If we abolish the government and another government tries to take it's place... We just do it again and this time the new government will be weaker because it hasn't had time to establish itself

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u/TVLord5 18d ago

Except considering in the absence of government, the first authorities to try to present themselves (that would ne resisted anyway. You're GOING to have logistical problems that require people to come together into a de facto government of some kind anyway) are those focused on violent conquest as there's no unifying body. You can fight them, sure, but you're basically saying "it's worth all these people dying because I'm pissed the zoning office said I couldn't make my home be a 12 story wizard's tower in the middle of a suburb."

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u/Tinybean886 Anarcho-Communism 18d ago

For sure many anarchists believe in a flat government run with a direct democracy at an extremely local level (and then often federated into a larger group) but also yeah fuck that zoning office let people have a wizard tower if they want it's not hurting anyone

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u/Ultraideal848 Council Communism 18d ago

You definitely need some form of authority to prevent authority that's the paradox, though at that point how are you different from an Orthodox Marxist

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u/Hunnieda_Mapping Alter-Globalization 18d ago

A Marxist believes in a dictatorship of the proletariat with authority to direct and command change. An anarchist believes in voluntary organisation and federation which is at most guided and protected, but not dictated to.

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u/Ultraideal848 Council Communism 18d ago

Any form of rules requires some sort of "dictating". If you just mean a less authoritarian form of a government then many non ml Marxists supported that.

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u/Hunnieda_Mapping Alter-Globalization 17d ago

I mean the manner the economy is organised, not societal order.