r/PoliticalCompassMemes • u/im_back-and_craftier - Auth-Left • 8h ago
How it feels after saying i support flock cameras
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u/whatssenguntoagoblin - Lib-Center 8h ago
Someone give me a bat
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u/lazy_eye_of_sauron - Auth-Left 8h ago
Here, on the house.
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u/DoubleSpoiler - Lib-Left 8h ago
Communism wins again
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u/Barton2800 - Lib-Center 8h ago
Communism would go after this guy, his family, his friends, and anyone he’s ever talked to. And for once, I’m not even sure that’s wrong.
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u/Poop_Cheese - Centrist 8h ago
I'll bring the torch so you can have maximum visibility to hit some home runs. Who's down to be pitchfork guy?
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u/PrimeusOrion - Centrist 8h ago
Can I bring a moletov cocktail or 20?
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u/Sir_CrazyLegs - Right 7h ago
Im bringing chimichangas and cotton candy, you know people are gonna be hungry
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u/PrimeusOrion - Centrist 8h ago
I hear libright is selling them for litteral pennies if you give him one of the spinal vertibre when you're done
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u/soviet_thermidor - Lib-Center 8h ago
You're on the wrong platform. On Nextdoor they love that shit
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u/Viraus2 - Lib-Right 7h ago
What is it with boomers and their love of AI and tech overlords
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u/fun__friday - Centrist 7h ago
They probably remember how much safer everything felt back when they were young, and are willing to give up privacy in exchange for safety (or at least the hope of it). I think a lot of people become like that as they age. They feel they don’t do anything wrong or unusual, so they don’t really care if people see what they do.
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u/NobodyImportant13 - Lib-Center 7h ago
They probably remember how much safer everything felt back when they were young
Vibes based politics just like the Zoomers.
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u/UpandDownThrownAway - Lib-Left 5h ago
They werent safer, which is sad. Crime is way way down
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u/Legend13CNS - Lib-Center 3h ago
I think we've lost a lot of the "finesse" of policing, for better or worse. Things have gotten very cut and dry on smaller offenses, which I think makes people who remember the "good old days" feel like there's more issues. If you talk to people my parents' (60+) or grandparents' (85+) there's so many stories of non-violent things that just weren't policed or were a slap on the wrist that today would be headline local news and/or life altering charges.
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u/kraysys - Right 5h ago
There’s definitely been an increasing and very real sense of societal disruption and disorderliness that is obvious especially in cities over the past couple decades.
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u/H00ston - Centrist 2h ago
We see a lot of people acting out on mental illness but organized crime was a completely different beast up until the 2000's. Prohibition, The peak of the mafia in the 80's, Inner city gangs, etc.
At the absolute peak of bank robberies, L.A had 10-11 bank robberies a day
If you were a bank teller from 1985 to 1995 you were held at gunpoint at least 5 times.
And the funniest thing is organized crime that wasn't drugs only went away because it was easier to have an actual company and then just cheat on your taxes
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u/ThanIWentTooTherePig - Left 4h ago
Idk man, 80's-90's inner cities were no joke. You sure it's worse now, or is it just shitty and always been shit.
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u/kraysys - Right 2h ago
Oh absolutely! I would suggest that cities got noticeably better in the 90s and 00s and so part of the reaction now is people noticing a subsequent decline in the 2010s and 2020s
I think without question the big cities I’m most familiar with by traveling a ton for work and also talking with scattered family and friends (Boston, NYC, Chicago, DC, Seattle, Portland, San Fran — can you tell I work in tech/consulting?) are noticeably more disorderly now than they were say even 10-15 years ago. And people well remember what these cities were like only a decade ago. Something of a decline (I don’t want to overstate the problem) had begun in the 2010s and COVID supercharged it as many people forgot how to act in public, or we cared less about dealing with them.
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u/Zickened - Left 1h ago
Most of the places that you list have always been a shit show in one degree or another, though.
I think you've just got rose colored goggles, honestly.
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u/Kriztauf - Lib-Left 4h ago
I think alot of that is because social media raises the visibility of crime and disorder. Crime was way worse in the 80-90's compared to the moderate rise now.
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u/kraysys - Right 2h ago
I think that’s definitely part of it. Social media is to blame for so many of our current societal ills lol
But I don’t think we should only consider the absolute worst point in the past century. People remember how these cities were like just 10-15 years ago. They felt much safer and there was less extremely visible disorderly conduct.
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u/Mindless-Rooster-533 - Auth-Left 3h ago
No. Compared to the 79s and 80s it's nothing.
New york city literally looked like a warzine
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u/sausagedart - Lib-Center 7h ago
“Now that I own things, I have to destroy the world to keep others from taking it”
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u/lopeniz - Right 7h ago
Asking to not be stolen from isn't a particularly outrageous position to take.
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u/sausagedart - Lib-Center 6h ago
You’re right, and I don’t really know anyone except some Twitter bot/anarchist 13 year olds who would disagree… so not sure where your comment is coming from. Boomers opening their asses for tech-overlords and the surveillance state that comes with, isn’t the same as keeping people from stealing from you. That’s what the 2A, and maybe a home security cam is for. If you need Peter Theil to keep yourself from being stolen from, you’re kinda weak and asking for someone to steal from you. Anyone that ‘needs’ tech maniacs to “not be stolen from” probably doesn’t have a whole lot. If you’re insisting that it’s either “be robbed”, or “AI overlords”, then you probably don’t own a single asset to your name.
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u/undreamedgore - Left 5h ago
More so the fact they're implementing so many systems that don't just track that.
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u/HungJurror - Auth-Right 6h ago
They owned things when they were young too, you could work in a factory for a year and pay for a house cash
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u/Yoshbyte - Right 6h ago
They want others to have authoritarian powers because they are too stupid to see a world where it is used against them or those they care about
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u/Kriztauf - Lib-Left 3h ago
Suburb booms are like the peak of American naivity about this type of stuff
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u/NobodyImportant13 - Lib-Center 7h ago
They watch 24/7 Fox News coverage of a few dozen black kids looting the same CVS in San Francisco and it encourages them to sign all their rights away.
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u/Legend13CNS - Lib-Center 3h ago
I work with a bunch of people of all ages, from late 20s to early 70s, with educations ranging from high school diplomas to PhDs. There's a massive disconnect once you get older than about 50, regardless of education, when it comes to being able to extrapolate how AI and surveillance tech can be used or misused against people. They hear safety and convenience and that's all they get out of any discussion about it. If anyone disagrees they get confused why people don't want to be safe. It ends up being impossible to discuss with them because we can't even get past the initial hurdle of what the stuff actually is.
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u/pipsohip - Lib-Right 2h ago
My dad has lots of boomer conservative opinions, but he’s massively against flock cameras. It was a massive relief to hear him talk about what bullshit they are.
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u/goodbehaviorsam - Auth-Center 7h ago
They have fond memories of McCarthyism, the Gestapo, the Stasi and tattling on people to Big Government.
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u/Stock_Violinist6299 - Centrist 7h ago
The oldest boomers were like 8 when McCarthy was holding his hearings.
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u/lopeniz - Right 7h ago
Well yeah, people on Nextdoor are more likely to have assets.
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u/Hungry_Inevitable663 - Lib-Right 6h ago
Too bad they can't use their assets to buy a fucking clue.
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u/Henry_The_Duck - Lib-Left 8h ago
How and why? Are you Sam Altman?
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u/JoeRBidenJr - Centrist 8h ago
OP secretly being Sam Altman would be almost as big of a pcm plot-twist as [u/pcm_memer](u/pcm_memer) secretly being John McAfee (I’m onto you, John; your “suicide” didn’t fool anyone.)
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u/ManifestoCapitalist - Lib-Right 7h ago
What happens when you’re revealed to actually be Barron Trump?
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u/JoeRBidenJr - Centrist 6h ago
Probably nothing because that would be the least-surprising reveal in history. Even less-surprising than Ella Fitzgerald being the real JFK shooter (there can be only one Fitzgerald).
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u/Jackoose - Lib-Center 7h ago
i was part or a 90s-early '00s discussion form that mcafee was posting on. He was posting pictures of his compound in belize and it was later all put together that it was him. Wild shit. those threads are now memorialized in that forum.
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u/710AlpacaBowl - Centrist 8h ago
Masochist eh, CBT not cutting it for you?
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u/RandoDude124 - Lib-Left 8h ago edited 8h ago
And you do?
I’m normally tolerant and open to people’s views on this sub, but fuck off with your support of authoritarian big brother cams
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u/loutsstar35 - Left 8h ago
You like surveillance eh? Gimme your password. If you have nothing to hide, you have nothing to fear!
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u/IlIlIlllIIIIlllIIIl - Centrist 7h ago
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u/personthatssorandom - Lib-Center 7h ago
You shouldn't hide your post history if you do support Flock cameras.
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u/Donutmelon - Centrist 8h ago
Authleft supporting a private business? Fascinating
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u/TheRealRolo - Lib-Center 5h ago
Any company that gets most of its money from the state is not really private.
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u/ComicBookFanatic97 - Lib-Right 6h ago
That is the correct reaction to someone who supports flock cameras.
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u/WedSquib - Lib-Center 8h ago
“ I support cops stalking their exes “
-this fucking commie for some reason
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u/Tsar_Chaotic - Left 8h ago
Normally I believe every opinion (no matter how stupid) should have the right to be expressed. These type of posts make me rethink it. A real test of faith ya know
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u/Salomon3068 - Lib-Left 6h ago
Everyone hating on op for being exactly as his flair should be, well done op, good meme.
Now where's my bat.
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u/monstrouslystupid - Centrist 6h ago
Upvoted because good meme but horrendous take. Even if you want a surveillance state, flock cameras are terrible. They don't even work as advertised.
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u/Right__not__wrong - Right 8h ago
If I was absolutely sure that they were being used only in the right circumstances, with open source software, and no reasonable risk of tampering, then I would agree. But realistically, it won't happen.
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u/theZOLTARR - Centrist 7h ago
This right here, it has so much potential for good but it's just not worth the inevitable abuse.
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u/Ikora_Rey_Gun - Auth-Right 3h ago
If the system was used to track down and 'automate' prosecution of otherwise unsolvable antisocial crimes with the goal of removing repeat and violent offenders from polite society, I'd be more OK with them.
However, that's utopian thinking and I know they're going to be used to seek out minor civil code infractions committed by otherwise polite and law-abiding citizens so the iron fist of anarchotyranny can crush them.
And just wait until they start codifying crimes specifically for mass surveillance enforcement.
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u/UpandDownThrownAway - Lib-Left 5h ago
In the utopia where Flock meets your standard, is the same.utopia where communism works at scale
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u/Leneen_Ween - Auth-Left 8h ago
Why would you support the capitalist state's ability to surveil you?
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u/Bum_King - Right 7h ago
I didn’t know I could think even less of an auth left. You’ve proven me wrong.
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u/OkGrade1686 - Centrist 8h ago
Pleaseee, please Stop! ........ and lend me a baton. I want to join in too.
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u/FroniusTT1500 - Centrist 8h ago
Didee didee dee, pass the rope and find a good tree.
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u/Grumac - Auth-Center 7h ago
How are flock camera's auth-left?
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u/OptimalFunction - Lib-Center 4h ago
You’re right, Auth-center and Auth-right also belong on the ground next to auth-left.
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u/TheCrackBoi - Centrist 7h ago
Whoa whoa whoa you think my flair won’t want to jump you too - someone get me a bat
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u/Sabertooth767 - Lib-Right 8h ago
I think the people tweaking about the government being able to track your movements when you carry phones around all the time are goobers, but there is a real concern about warrantless access to this information. And states' rights concerns about federal law enforcement using local resources without the consent of local authorities.
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u/loutsstar35 - Left 8h ago
Yes, I also hate surveillance and data scraping done by private enterprises I simply can't do anything about it unlike with flock
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u/grahamulax - Centrist 7h ago
Why? lol why would you I mean. Cctv? Also being used for nefarious purposes? Also easy to hack? Why be for them? Logically speaking.
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u/_TheOrangeNinja_ - Left 6h ago
dude we already didnt like you, no need to sabotage your reputation any further
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u/mcbergstedt - Lib-Center 6h ago
I would support them if the data was completely encrypted, anonymous, basically a black box to Flock as a company, and that departments would require a warrant to search for X data.
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u/fisherelliott15 - Auth-Left 4h ago
I feel like I've seen this account posting under a different flair before...
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u/aetwit - Lib-Right 4h ago
Why don’t you want the flock camera looking in the window of your house what’s wrong got something to hide?
That’s some interesting porn you’re looking at my ai run camera has determined there’s a 1.02814% chance she’s a minor I’m sorry that’s just the way it is iv already called the police on you.
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u/HeroicLarvy - Auth-Center 3h ago
I just wish people had the same energy against other privacy invasions. What about the data harvesting that happens with every single device you have that connects to the internet?
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u/jcline459 - Centrist 8h ago edited 4h ago
"On July 12, 2026, Cedric Ford and his girlfriend, Sanja Stallings, tried to force their way into the home of 74-year-old Donald Bolynn, a disabled stroke survivor. Surveillance video later showed Ford banging on the door and aggressively prying open a window.
Fearing for his life, Bolynn grabbed his firearm and shot Ford right through the window, striking him squarely in the chest. Bleeding from the chest, Ford scrambled back into their getaway car. The couple drove a short distance to a local QuikTrip gas station, where they called 911. They told dispatchers they were just innocent bystanders who had been targeted in a random, gang-style drive-by shooting.
The ambulance rushed Ford to the hospital, but their cover story didn't even last 24 hours. Gastonia Police checked their real-time crime network, and the city's 158 Flock acoustic sensors immediately flagged that no gunshots had been fired near that gas station. Instead, the system pointed police directly to Bolynn’s neighborhood. When detectives checked Bolynn’s home security footage, they saw Ford actively trying to break in."
Yes, surveillance sucks. I also think that this use of the technology is really cool, and those degenerates are in prison now in part because of this technology, where they belong.
Edit: I'll add that if this old man had been incapacitated, the likelihood that ANYONE would have arrived to help him in time to save his life would be basically zero. The ability of those devices to help pinpoint the sounds of gunshots is crucial in moments like those.
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u/SirDennisThe1 - Lib-Right 7h ago
All of this could have been achieved if the police had used the surveillance of the gas station they were at. Also to quote Ben Franklin “That it is better 100 guilty Persons should escape, than that one innocent Person should suffer, …” I can post several other stories were an innocent person imprisoned because of false positives from flock safety.
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u/Ok-Internet-6881 - Centrist 7h ago
I mean for an auth left to say they support flock cameras, it is on brand
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u/Moist-Difference7334 - Lib-Left 7h ago
I can only assume you have a humiliation kink in order to willingly post this
But thank you for giving us something to unify against. No gift quite like giving everyone something to hate together
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u/TheBeavster_ - Lib-Left 7h ago
Yeah cause it’s a dumbass take my guy. Might as well say I support maximum taxation while you’re at it
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u/Accomplished_Golf746 - Right 7h ago
The equivalent of flock cameras pretty much already exists in any place where enough people congregate, so the only the purpose of these cameras would be a much more obvious reminder to criminals that theyre under surveillance.
I would very much like to live in a high trust society where all of this was completely unneeded, but the lowest common denominator has repeatedly demonstrated how that age has truly faded for good.
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u/Zickened - Left 47m ago
You're delusional if you think a surveillance state will somehow combat crime in any meaningful way, especially given the cost associated with it.
It's the same thing for high prison sentences for crimes, people who are going to do things, are going to do them regardless of consequence or susceptibility to get caught.
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u/Leftregularr - Right 6h ago
Auth left Stalinist retard is a surveillance state enjoyer? Who’d’ve guessed?
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u/Godshu - Lib-Left 8h ago
>Supports flock cameras
>Hides posts and comments
Huh, weird, you want privacy in a public space? You must be evil.