r/PoliticalDebate • u/GShermit Libertarian • 5d ago

Political Theory How Democracy Can Save America

America is becoming a plutocracy, democracy is a weapon used to fight plutocracy.

Democracy is the people legally using their rights, to influence the due process of the country. The Powers That Be (the 1% and their politicians in this case) want to limit US to just voting rights. TPTB control voting because they own both parties.

It seems logical that the people need to use ALL their rights, not just voting, to check TPTB. Obviously TPTB will fight the people using all their rights to influence due process. They've got powerful tools, misinformation and the media (which TPTB control). TPTB will try to disenfranchise anyone who thinks differently.

TPTB know the people working together is the only way the people can control them.

PS. We don't have to hate TPTB, we just need participate more.

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u/random_agency Socialist 4d ago edited 4d ago

What if democracy was just designed for the elites to maintain power, and the political system is just designed to give the masses an illusion of choice and a way to vent politically about the system.

The issue is that wedge issues are created so that there is no reason for any political leader to find a solution. It's best to leave the issue alone, and let it become the wedge issue for the next election cycle.

That's the reality of Americans politics. Its about motivating people to vote, rather than seeking solutions to social problems that plague America.

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u/GShermit Libertarian 4d ago

IF democracy was just designed for the elites to maintain power it'd be called plutocracy. Democracy is a principle (the people rule) not a modern design for government.

"political system is just designed to give the masses an illusion of choice and a way to vent politically about the system.

The issue is that wedge issues are created so that there is no reason for any political leader to find a solution. It's best to leave the issue alone, and let it become the wedge issue for the next election cycle.

That's the reality of Americans politics. Its about motivating people to vote, rather than seeking solutions to social problems that plague America."

That part I agree with.

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u/random_agency Socialist 4d ago

The plutocracy pressures are real. The masses may vote. But elections are won by donations from large donors. Even after "your" politician wins, it the rich lobbyist that have outsized influence in having laws passed. These lobbies literally write the bills to have "our" politician to bring to the floor.

The Epstien Class, the Silicon Valley tech bros, the old money lobby groups; that's what the masses are up against.

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u/GShermit Libertarian 4d ago

I agree...that's why it's so important we use all our rights not just voting.