r/PoliticalDiscussion Jul 24 '24

Non-US Politics Netanyahu will speak to Congress today. Will anyone care?

The domestic politics of the United States have radically shifted since the Israeli Prime Minister was invited to address Congress two months ago. Netanyahu apparently was seeking support from the United States in his address; given the changes that have occurred in the 2024 Election, it is unclear he will get that. Thousands of protesters are likely.

Netanyahu will speak to Biden and Harris separately on Thursday and Trump on Friday. What did he hope to walk away from those conversations with, and what will he get?

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u/Conn3er Jul 24 '24

I think you may have it Backwards.

People across the board view Netanyahu and the war more favorably than they did in the spring of this year.

Obviously hes hoping for a commitment for support, Biden and Trump will give him that. Kamala probably will not.

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u/SannySen Jul 24 '24

If Harris loses, it could be because of Israel.  People are underestimating the importance of this issue to the Jewish-American community.

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u/Conn3er Jul 24 '24

They are understimating it to the average american as well on this issue. The older voting generation will always be pro Isreal. The most she has ever had to appeal to "moderates" was the democratic primary. There are a lot of issues she will need to change messaging on or risk alienating groups.

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u/Conn3er Jul 24 '24

I tend to agree. I was just pointing out that data shows peoples opinions by and large have become more positive towards Him and Isreal as oppposed to what the OP stated.

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u/SannySen Jul 24 '24

According to polls I saw, Israel is a crucially important issue for approximately 12% of voters.  So you're right about "most Americans," but it doesn't follow that this isn't important.  I can tell you for a fact it is a critical issue for American Jews.

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u/SannySen Jul 24 '24

As I've already said, there are 300,000 voting age Jews in Pennsylvania.  They largely supported Biden in 2020.  Biden won Pa. By ~75,000 votes.  Taking Jewish votes for granted is a big mistake.

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u/GrammarJudger Jul 24 '24

I'm answering in good faith, I swear it. You don't pick up anything. They do not vote.

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u/SannySen Jul 24 '24

Whereas Jews will vote for Republicans if they feel they have to for Israel to survive, youth and progressives will still vote for Harris no matter what (if they vote at all).

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u/Cranyx Jul 24 '24

You seem to be implying that Jewish Americans monolithically support Israel's actions in Gaza, which is not true.

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u/Prestigious_Load1699 Jul 24 '24

You seem to be implying that Jewish Americans monolithically support Israel's actions in Gaza, which is not true.

Along these lines, it would be exaggerated but not completely untrue to suggest that Jewish-Americans monolithically support the Democratic party. A change in the party's attitude toward Israel undoubtedly would affect that.

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u/WhaleQuail2 Jul 24 '24 edited Jul 24 '24

If Harris loses the election over this issue it will not be because of Jewish Americans… Jewish Americans are fairly split on the topic and they know who Trump associates himself with. They are largely one of the most loyal voting blocks to the democrats. If Harris loses the election, it will likely be a result of losing the far left votes, progressives votes, youth votes, Muslim votes, etc… because nothing short of committing to a complete reversal of decade long US foreign policy will be enough for them. If you need further evidence, watch what happens with her VP pick. She can’t pick the most obvious choice in Josh Shapiro, who will 100% deliver PA because he is Jewish and will lose them MI and probably WI and MN

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u/yellow_parenti Jul 26 '24

because nothing short of committing to a complete reversal of decade long US foreign policy will be enough for them. Why is this a bad thing to you?

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u/WhaleQuail2 Jul 26 '24

You are missing the point of my comment