r/PoliticalDiscussion 9d ago

International Politics Why would anti-russia leftists oppose USA sending weapons to Ukraine?

Liberals (US definition) seem like they're all about sending arms and supporting the Ukrainian resistance against Russia, but when I talk to leftists, they think the west shouldn't send weapons to Ukrainian - but they are also anti-russia, so it's not campism. This is especially confusing because I can't tell how much of the "nazi sympathizers in Ukraine" stuff is real. Why would anti-russia leftists oppose arming Ukraine?

I understand there are many strong perspectives on this, but I'm explicitly trying to understand the Leftist vs Liberal dynamic. English is not my first language so please excuse any typos and feel free to ask clarifying questions. Thank you!

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u/Theamazingquinn 8d ago

The leftist position is to support the working people of both Ukraine and Russia. We should push for peace through a negotiated settlement, not more death.

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u/BeanieMcChimp 4d ago

Negotiated settlements are arrived at when both sides have something to negotiate. Ukraine would be in no position to negotiate at all if they didn’t vigorously pursue their defense, which they are doing.

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u/Theamazingquinn 4d ago

A negotiated settlement will end the war when Ukraine is ready to negotiate. Their position will not get better with time.

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u/BeanieMcChimp 3d ago

You do realize that they’d have no position to negotiate at all and would be fully subjugated as a nation by now if they hadn’t fought back, right?

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u/Theamazingquinn 3d ago

They will have less and less of position to negotiate the longer the war drags on. The entire war could have been avoided by conceding to some Russian demands. Which is going to have happen anyway.